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“While the rest of the country waves the flag of Americana, we understand we are not part of that. We don’t owe America anything – America owes us.” — Al Sharpton...

"The US is indeed a terrorist nation. ...It’s also the greatest purveyor of violence on earth over the past half century, and the foremost threat to world peace today." – Bill Ayers

“I hate to say it, but killing is our way. We began America with genocide, then built it with slaves. The shootings will continue. It’s who we are.” — Michael Moore

Liberals love America like O.J. loved Nicole. Like Andrea Yates loved her kids. Like the Manson family loved Sharon Tate. They cheer people who disrespect the flag, trash America at every opportunity and knowingly favor policies that hurt the country and make it weaker.

However, the $64,000 question is WHY do they do this? Why do surveys consistently show that liberals (admittedly with some exceptions) are much less patriotic than conservatives? Here are people living in the world’s only superpower. This is a rich, prosperous nation that is the envy of the planet; yet liberals trash America so much that you expect them to move elsewhere (if only). Of course, America’s success is a big part of the problem for liberals because you see….

1) Liberals Think Success Is De Facto Unjust: Liberals, being liberals, give each other a pass for just about anything because they believe that they’re on the side of the angels (if they believe in angels) by default, just by virtue of being liberal...

2) History Can Be Skewed: Most people are not students of history, but liberals are at a particular disadvantage because there are popular liberal authors who deliberately skew the history of the United States. Extremely popular lefty authors like Noam Chomsky and Howard Zinn basically start with the presumption that the United States always does the wrong thing and is the cause of all evil in the world...

3) Conservatives Are Patriotic: Liberals can’t win a fight with logic; so they rely on controlling access to the mainstream media and convincing people that conservatives are so racist, so evil, so monstrous that people shouldn’t even listen to our arguments. One of the side effects of this is that liberals tend to have a knee jerk opposition to any and all things “conservative.” ...Liberals may not know a lot about the way that the world works, but they do know that if conservatives love to talk about how great America is and wave the flag, that’s not something they should be doing.

4) Liberals Draw Self-Esteem From Taking Positions That Make Them Appear More Sensitive Than other People: As Thomas Sowell has said, “The very commonness of common sense makes it unlikely to have any appeal to (liberals). How can they be wiser and nobler than everyone else while agreeing with everyone else?” Loving and supporting the greatest country in the world if you’re a U.S. citizen is so obviously common sense that it can’t possibly appeal to liberals. How do liberals feel good about themselves when they’re waving a flag like those NASCAR people? What, are they going to wear flag pins like those Tea Partiers? Inside every chest of every liberal is the heart of a Colin Kaepernick and if it weren’t for social pressure, few of them would ever rise for the national anthem. When you build an entire identity around falsely believing that you’re more sensitive, compassionate and wise than other people, you have to distinguish yourself from those you believe are your inferiors by virtue of not sharing your ideology.

5) Liberals Are Utopians...So, if you say, “America is one of the least racist countries in the world,” “The U.S. is the greatest country in the world,” or even, “The Constitution is the best founding document of any nation,” they can’t stand it because if things are pretty good and all we really need to do is get the government out of people’s way, there’s no need for liberals.

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5 Reasons Liberals Aren’t Patriotic

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When will America listen to him?

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some of these things are at the heart of the issue:

"5 Reasons Liberals Aren’t Patriotic"

oh no comrades, still townhall!!

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“While the rest of the country waves the flag of Americana, we understand we are not part of that. We don’t owe America anything – America owes us.” — Al Sharpton...

"The US is indeed a terrorist nation. ...It’s also the greatest purveyor of violence on earth over the past half century, and the foremost threat to world peace today." – Bill Ayers

“I hate to say it, but killing is our way. We began America with genocide, then built it with slaves. The shootings will continue. It’s who we are.” — Michael Moore

Liberals love America like O.J. loved Nicole. Like Andrea Yates loved her kids. Like the Manson family loved Sharon Tate. They cheer people who disrespect the flag, trash America at every opportunity and knowingly favor policies that hurt the country and make it weaker.

However, the $64,000 question is WHY do they do this? Why do surveys consistently show that liberals (admittedly with some exceptions) are much less patriotic than conservatives? Here are people living in the world’s only superpower. This is a rich, prosperous nation that is the envy of the planet; yet liberals trash America so much that you expect them to move elsewhere (if only). Of course, America’s success is a big part of the problem for liberals because you see….

1) Liberals Think Success Is De Facto Unjust: Liberals, being liberals, give each other a pass for just about anything because they believe that they’re on the side of the angels (if they believe in angels) by default, just by virtue of being liberal...

2) History Can Be Skewed: Most people are not students of history, but liberals are at a particular disadvantage because there are popular liberal authors who deliberately skew the history of the United States. Extremely popular lefty authors like Noam Chomsky and Howard Zinn basically start with the presumption that the United States always does the wrong thing and is the cause of all evil in the world...

3) Conservatives Are Patriotic: Liberals can’t win a fight with logic; so they rely on controlling access to the mainstream media and convincing people that conservatives are so racist, so evil, so monstrous that people shouldn’t even listen to our arguments. One of the side effects of this is that liberals tend to have a knee jerk opposition to any and all things “conservative.” ...Liberals may not know a lot about the way that the world works, but they do know that if conservatives love to talk about how great America is and wave the flag, that’s not something they should be doing.

4) Liberals Draw Self-Esteem From Taking Positions That Make Them Appear More Sensitive Than other People: As Thomas Sowell has said, “The very commonness of common sense makes it unlikely to have any appeal to (liberals). How can they be wiser and nobler than everyone else while agreeing with everyone else?” Loving and supporting the greatest country in the world if you’re a U.S. citizen is so obviously common sense that it can’t possibly appeal to liberals. How do liberals feel good about themselves when they’re waving a flag like those NASCAR people? What, are they going to wear flag pins like those Tea Partiers? Inside every chest of every liberal is the heart of a Colin Kaepernick and if it weren’t for social pressure, few of them would ever rise for the national anthem. When you build an entire identity around falsely believing that you’re more sensitive, compassionate and wise than other people, you have to distinguish yourself from those you believe are your inferiors by virtue of not sharing your ideology.

5) Liberals Are Utopians...So, if you say, “America is one of the least racist countries in the world,” “The U.S. is the greatest country in the world,” or even, “The Constitution is the best founding document of any nation,” they can’t stand it because if things are pretty good and all we really need to do is get the government out of people’s way, there’s no need for liberals.

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“While the rest of the country waves the flag of Americana, we understand we are not part of that. We don’t owe America anything – America owes us.” — Al Sharpton...

"The US is indeed a terrorist nation. ...It’s also the greatest purveyor of violence on earth over the past half century, and the foremost threat to world peace today." – Bill Ayers

“I hate to say it, but killing is our way. We began America with genocide, then built it with slaves. The shootings will continue. It’s who we are.” — Michael Moore

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Dictating how their people can act, protest or otherwise... reminds me of why we had a civil war...

We had a civil war over employers dictating how their employees should act?

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And someone, please, tell me how taking a knee during the national anthem is disrespecting anything.

If you're to stand for the National Anthem, taking a knee isn't standing. That can be, and is being, taken as disrespectful to the flag, the country, and the men and women who have fought and died, and/or risked their lives for that flag and what it stands for.

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I read an interesting comparison between Kapaernick and Tebow and what the differences are between one kneeling and the other, and why one is OK and the other is not.
A lot has to do with color...

What article did you read? Will you link it to us here, please?

I did a quick search and came up with a lot of stuff that didn't really answer my one big question: Did Tebow kneel during the National Anthem? I know he'd kneel after a scoring drive, but I don't know if he knelt during the National Anthem. If he didn't, then race likely has nothing to do with this (although race and/or religion might have something to do with this one).

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“While the rest of the country waves the flag of Americana, we understand we are not part of that. We don’t owe America anything – America owes us.” — Al Sharpton...

"The US is indeed a terrorist nation. ...It’s also the greatest purveyor of violence on earth over the past half century, and the foremost threat to world peace today." – Bill Ayers

“I hate to say it, but killing is our way. We began America with genocide, then built it with slaves. The shootings will continue. It’s who we are.” — Michael Moore

In direct contrast to: "Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask, instead, what you can do for your country." The loopy lefties left that in the dust a loooooong time ago.

Bill Ayers, the terrorist piece of shit, doesn't even matter. He's projecting.

Michael Moore doesn't "hate to say" anything that his parents would have found offensive. It's the only way he has any chance of staying relevant.

All that said, the Dims have changed so much, just in my life time, that they would be unrecognizable to Kennedy, Truman, and Johnson (the last).



Michael

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Until about 20 years ago, drivers sat in their car during the anthem.

Who was screaming then?
Musta been Clinton's fault.

You will bow to dear leader! You will sign the national song! You will wave his flag!

Or to the gulag with you for reconditioning.

Only an utter fool like you could be gullible enough to fall for another one of the big chickens childish lies

https://sports.yahoo.com/wasnt-long-ago-nascar-drivers-sat-cars-national-anthem-204239515.html
10 seconds to once again prove you to be a lying fuckwit

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Taking the knee is showing respect and not disrespectful. The Flag and the Constitution are sacred are the arguments paraded whilst conveniently overlooking the fact they are expressing freedom of speech. At least they have not taken up arms.

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Until about 20 years ago, drivers sat in their car during the anthem.

Who was screaming then?
Musta been Clinton's fault.

You will bow to dear leader! You will sign the national song! You will wave his flag!

Or to the gulag with you for reconditioning.

Only an utter fool like you could be gullible enough to fall for another one of the big chickens childish lies

https://sports.yahoo.com/wasnt-long-ago-nascar-drivers-sat-cars-national-anthem-204239515.html
10 seconds to once again prove you to be a lying fuckwit

could be wrong, but I am pretty sure he was talking to music, not you.

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“While the rest of the country waves the flag of Americana, we understand we are not part of that. We don’t owe America anything – America owes us.” — Al Sharpton...

"The US is indeed a terrorist nation. ...It’s also the greatest purveyor of violence on earth over the past half century, and the foremost threat to world peace today." – Bill Ayers

“I hate to say it, but killing is our way. We began America with genocide, then built it with slaves. The shootings will continue. It’s who we are.” — Michael Moore

In direct contrast to: "Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask, instead, what you can do for your country." The loopy lefties left that in the dust a loooooong time ago.

Bill Ayers, the terrorist piece of shit, doesn't even matter. He's projecting.

Michael Moore doesn't "hate to say" anything that his parents would have found offensive. It's the only way he has any chance of staying relevant.

All that said, the Dims have changed so much, just in my life time, that they would be unrecognizable to Kennedy, Truman, and Johnson (the last).

Michael

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FR color me shocked but Dale Jr came out in support of protesters, referring to a King quote that points out when you take away all means of peaceful protest, all that's left is violence.

JFK, but close enough.

Then he added, “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable — JFK.”

its a great thought, but its not totally apropos. the issue isn't the protest per se, its WHEN its occurring.

Oh, sorry, white guy. When would it be more convenient for you for schedule the black angst?

not when they are being paid to play football and stand during the national anthem.

and since they have peaceful recourse options outside their job description there is therefore no need to turn to violent protest and again---the quote is not apropos.

got that??

so piss off with your unwarranted snark.

first of all the players aint being paid shit for the national anthem, the league is. The players are paid by the individual teams & owners OF those teams, which is why rump thought incorrectly he had pull with them.

I DARE u to find anywhere in ANY sports contract ANYWHERE where its says they are getting any part of the payment the US military pays ANY of the US sports leagues for the tributes and recruitment displays.

and when ur done exhausting that futility, let Me know when u contribute to ur community like many of those player do to not only their home communities but also their adopted communities they play in.

AND most times they do that on their "day off" DURING the season. Do u do anything even remotely close to that on ur day off??

but oh shit, let these men have a beef with how some people in those communities are being treated and u want then to protest in a way that ur comfortable with right?

I understand u don't give a shit about the core reason they're protesting in the first place,

but maybe ur the one who should piss off since under those circumstances ur part of the problem they are protesting.

They are paid from team funds.
You won't find anything that says any of their pay comes from the tv contract,
or from the gate , or from any other source so your point is pointless.
Sounds good, as long as you don't think about it.

thank u for agreeing with me that the players are not employed by the league to stand for the national anthem, and therefore NOT part of their "job descriptions"

SO... its ur bitchin that's pointless. its still the owners money, not the leagues, so u are and now know u are,.... wrong.... period.

And in case u hadn't noticed most if not all the owners who donated to rumps campaign, and/or his lame underwhelming inauguration are against him blowing shit up their ass.

some like rump pal, Dallas Cowboys Owner Jerry Jones,.. Protested WITH his players, coaches and front office staff.

and thank u for confirming u care more about the means of protest than the reason for it.

ur problem is u don't think about it because again,... ur part OF the problem.

Their job is to do what is best for the league and their team, this is just the opposite.
You may think that I proved your point, but you need to reestablish your contact with reality.
By your logic they are not bound to follow any league rules and you know that is BS.
Last year why did Cowboy player need permission FROM THE LEAGUE to do a tribute for the 5 cops
murdered at the BLM rally. How can the league fine people for wearing 9/11 socks?
The league has that power on every issues but this?

actually they don't....or at least they don't feel the need to do so. The league can only fine them for violations, and even then that's only under the collective bargaining agreement of which the national anthem and its paid patriotism isn't anywhere on it.

notice nobody got even fined the whole weekend ....Hell, the steelers just did what all teams did before the national anthem and its paid patriotism years ago,...... stayed in the locker room, and take the field afterwards.

...... And while I don't remember what the player did for that cop tribute, but I'm sure if he knew then what he probably knows now, its possible he could of just did it without permission.

and the 9/11 socks? I'm guessing that IS covered in that collective bargaining agreement of what players can wear DURING THE ACTUAL GAME.

Ive seen players wear non-conforming items during pre-game warmups, but come out in approved wear at game time.

and lastly, if u had to deal with MY reality, u wouldn't have nearly the fucked up attitude on race relations u currently have.

one white American's take on the protest.

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Oh hey remember when it was always the right-wing rednecks who were all about standing up and fighting for freedom?
I guess that they actually meant the freedoms that they personally choose for everyone.

And threatening to shoot the uppity democrat in the white house to protect America's freedoms, don't forget.

Where Democrats actually shoot Republican Congressmen. I remember you complaining that he wasn't a good
enough shot.

The fact that you disagree with someone doesn't make them a tyrant.

Remember that the next time somebody with a D after their name gets elected, then.

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NASCAR's lack of diversity is shameful.

Maybe they should use press gangs to get black drivers.

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Oh hey remember when it was always the right-wing rednecks who were all about standing up and fighting for freedom?
I guess that they actually meant the freedoms that they personally choose for everyone.

And threatening to shoot the uppity democrat in the white house to protect America's freedoms, don't forget.

Where Democrats actually shoot Republican Congressmen. I remember you complaining that he wasn't a good
enough shot.

The fact that you disagree with someone doesn't make them a tyrant.

Remember that the next time somebody with a D after their name gets elected, then.

You do not understand the difference between knowing that the 2nd was passed in part to allow people
to fight tyranny, and advocating shooting anyone you disagree with. Conservatives believe in the former,
liberals think that means the latter.