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BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should en... - 5/11/2007 10:21:30 PM

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I thought about putting this in the health and safety area but figured I would get a better response here. I do not wish to offend anyone or have people think that I only envision real woman as 90lb supermodels. As a person who works in the healthcare industry I am appalled that someone could even be more than 100lbs over their ideal body weight let alone think it was something to flaunt. For those of you that belive the term BBW applies to a voluptuous full figured woman I have no problems with you and can understand the application of the term.

I guess I have lit the fire and look forward to your responses

RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 5/11/2007 10:27:18 PM

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Personally i am attracted to women whom are a bit more "fluffy" that the norm. i find them attractive for many reasons.. the foremost being which that i have found BBW type women to be very down to earth. i, personally do not wish to offend anyone, and if i have i am sorry. just my thoughts.

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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 5/11/2007 10:29:23 PM

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I have been waiting for another fat thread.
Oh hell yes, this is making my night.
Let me go get another beer and some chips and ponder this.

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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 5/11/2007 10:31:53 PM

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Well, I'm sure you're going to be dodging a few flaming arrows for this one lol. I'm overwieght myself. Not anywhere near 100 lbs over, but I could stand to lose a "few" lbs. I just look at it like this. When I'm ready and I want to do it I will. Until then any health problems (which thankfully have been none) that I encounter are my own fault. I know there are some that have medical conditions that may prevent wieght loss but the others that could lose it if they wanted won't until they decide the time is right for them. And there are some that are perfectly happy with being overwieght. Just be however you are comfortable being. There is true beauty within all of us, not just our outsides...big or small.

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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 5/11/2007 10:32:58 PM

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I don't know what kind of answers you're looking for here. Our society is dealing with an obesity problem of epidemic proportions. That being said, each person's health is an individual thing. I'm a smoker...that might make me more unhealthy than someone morbidly obese. For some it's a choice, such as my smoking...for others it's a medical condition.

I'm not sure being happy with yourself at a weight of 100 or more pounds over their target wight is "flaunting" it. I'm not sure there are any of us without baggage, for some the baggage is weight.

There are women who are proud of their weight and being large. That's fine with me. I don't measure people with a scale.

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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 5/11/2007 10:36:04 PM

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MzMia, how many hundreds of pages do you think this one will go?

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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 5/11/2007 10:36:07 PM

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I know that as a society we have a problem with obesity and I want to preclude all those who will respond with..... a little overweight or a little larger. This is for the 350lb individual that should be seeking major medical help not walking around thinking this makes them attractive

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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 5/11/2007 10:37:56 PM

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I set this profile up just to be the one to ask the tough questions...hence the name.......I really like do the dot,dot,dot for dramatic effect as well.

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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 5/11/2007 10:42:43 PM

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I set this profile up just to be the one to ask the tough questions...hence the name.......I really like do the dot,dot,dot for dramatic effect as well.

I know setting up another profile is common, but I think it's a shame that people feel that they have to...sorry to go off-topic, but now we're in the off-topic forum.

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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 5/11/2007 10:45:17 PM

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sublizzie, there is no telling this being the Mothers Day weekend.
My guess is about 20.

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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 5/11/2007 10:47:11 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: question

I thought about putting this in the health and safety area but figured I would get a better response here. I do not wish to offend anyone or have people think that I only envision real woman as 90lb supermodels. As a person who works in the healthcare industry I am appalled that someone could even be more than 100lbs over their ideal body weight let alone think it was something to flaunt. For those of you that belive the term BBW applies to a voluptuous full figured woman I have no problems with you and can understand the application of the term.

I guess I have lit the fire and look forward to your responses

You work in the health care industry and are this rude and not understanding of certain people's situations where they have medical conditions that have caused them to do this? i am sorry but i seriously doubt that and the condescending attitude.

minnetar

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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 5/11/2007 10:49:59 PM

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There's scientific studies now that are pointing to those 'fat' people being more healthy than skinny people.

So, we should maybe get the skinny ones to a doctor and get them on diets to fatten them up a bit so they aren't so sick anymore?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070510/ap_on_he_me/thin_fat_people_7;_ylt=Ah2DIcxTC_wpbPBT_YiTPiYE1vAI

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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 5/11/2007 10:59:23 PM

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i think health is a LOT more to it than weight.

i weigh less now (by about 30 pounds or so) than i do in my profile picture. but i'm less healthy. i have chronic health conditions that are NOT caused by my weight or lack thereof, and arthritis that is getting worse despite my weighing less.

so its everything together in the person's general makeup rather than just "oh you weigh X amount and have a BMI of XYZ." (BMI= body mass index, a measurement of the fat to muscle ratio in the body, in case it was wondered)

kitten, who was EXCELLENTLY healthy at 220, and isnt at 170.

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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 5/11/2007 11:06:47 PM

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ORIGINAL: welshwmn3

There's scientific studies now that are pointing to those 'fat' people being more healthy than skinny people.

So, we should maybe get the skinny ones to a doctor and get them on diets to fatten them up a bit so they aren't so sick anymore?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070510/ap_on_he_me/thin_fat_people_7;_ylt=Ah2DIcxTC_wpbPBT_YiTPiYE1vAI

Nice, interesting article there. I am of the opinion that most fat people are more damaged by the comments, looks, and attitudes of the "normal" people than they are by any actual physical effects of their weight. It has been well documented in scientific studies that thin does not equal healthy and that if a fat person engages in exercise, keeps a healthy diet, and has no health problems like high blood pressure or diabetes that they are no more at risk for death or disease than any thin person. A book called "The Obesity Myth" by Paul F. Campos has some pretty hard evidence for this and other realities that thin people don't want to hear. Another great book I've just read is called "Rethinking Thin" by Gina Kolata. As the standards of what's normal and healthy get lower, more people qualify as overweight and obese who would not have 50 or 100 years ago. Hence the obesity epidemic is partially hyped up due to changing **definitions**(typo) of what is obese.

If a woman is truly happy with her body then I don't see why she shouldn't be. Who am I to tell someone that they don't deserve to be proud or feel sexy because they weight a certain amount? I don't think bony women who weight 112 lbs and stand 5'7" are sexy but I don't deny their right to feel happy with their bodies or hate them because they are who they are.

It's interesting that this topic has come up (again) because just today I wrote someone a nice "hello" letter just because I liked his profile. You know what I got back in return? This:

"looks like you also like eating everything that is not nailed down you fat sea cow!"

It truly upsets me that there are people in the world who think it's ok to hate someone because of the shape of her body. I always laugh though since I am very active, strong, and fit, don't drink or smoke, and will probably live longer than the people who've made my life hell through their ignorance and cruelty.

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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 5/11/2007 11:33:16 PM

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Look what happens when they let everyone get a say.

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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 5/11/2007 11:37:29 PM

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ORIGINAL: DominaSmartass

It's interesting that this topic has come up (again) because just today I wrote someone a nice "hello" letter just because I liked his profile. You know what I got back in return? This:

"looks like you also like eating everything that is not nailed down you fat sea cow!"

It truly upsets me that there are people in the world who think it's ok to hate someone because of the shape of her body. I always laugh though since I am very active, strong, and fit, don't drink or smoke, and will probably live longer than the people who've made my life hell through their ignorance and cruelty.

I have finally just gotten to a point where I may (possibly) believe that I'm not ugly. This is after 10 years of my current Sir, previous Sirs, former boyfriends and a girlfriend all telling me I am beautiful to them.

The reason? Because of years of people ridiculing me for being fat. I have medical issues (that are finally being realized and I have actually lost weight) that have made me fat and kept me fat for a very long time.

There have been times in my life I was walking 4 miles a day, and was still 200+ lbs (when my 'ideal weight' should be 120 by the insurance charts the doctors go by). I have been almost hit by a car when I was out walking (by teenage girls who had to make the car cross over to the wrong side of the street to nearly hit me), I've been razzed by so-called men (who where also in a car while I was walking) mooing at me and telling my then-husband to stick a 'wide load' sign on my ass if he was going to 'allow' me to be out in public. I've been told in restaurants by 'well meaning' individuals that if I didn't eat so much I wouldn't be so fat, and I should really consider not eating the chicken or steak or hamburger I was having. That finally stopped when I got with my current Sir (at 6'2" tall, most people see him and think "I don't want to do anything to tick him off!").

I've been a member here for a few years, but never really got into the boards. Last year I had an experience by somebody on CM like you just did recently. Only, this person, after pm'ing me, put in his profile that I was fat as a cow and was in denial about it. At the time my profile was a bit different, but I was not in denial about anything.

And then he wondered why I blocked him.

His words and actions showed me everything I needed to know about him. He never tried to get to know me, just decided that because I was "fat as a cow" in his opinion, that he could twist the truth around and ... I dunno, make me embarressed or something? Oh NOES!!!111!!!!! Some total stranger on a message board pm's me and is trying to 'save me from myself'! I should be falling at his feet in thanksgiving that he's pointed out how fat I am (like I can't look in the mirror and see it myself)?

That's gonna happen about as soon as they start selling parkas in hell.

It's good that you can laugh at the jerk that said that to you though. Cuz really, idiots like that aren't worth the emotion we waste being angry with them. I'd almost say they should be pitied, but then, even pity is wasting too much emotion on them.

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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 5/11/2007 11:37:58 PM

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When I was growing up I was a UK size 6 and hated it. I always felt that I was missing a figure and struggled to find clothes to fit. A boss of mine once said that I had so little chest that I really should have a sign round my neck saying "This side up for rape". In my early 30s I was diagnosed with a chronic condition that required medication and went from a UK size 8 to a UK size 18 in less than 3 months. That medication, prescribed by medial professionals, resulted in a change in metabolism which is extremely difficult to manage and I have stayed a large lady. I am also only 5ft tall.

I do not flaunt my weight. I am, however, comfortable and very happy with who I am. I am loved for the person I am, the whole person not just the outside part of me. I am a much much happier person than I was in my slim days.

Perhaps what you are missing is the fact that those that "flaunt" their weight, be it 100lbs overweight or a 90lb supermodel, are actually happy with themselves. The times to worry are when people feel forced to change their "outer selves" because of others attitudes towards them. Unhealthy fad diets can cause health issues too.

I know so many people who would rather be surrounded by people that are happy and comfortable with themselves than those that are constantly worrying about what they are eating or how they look.

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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 5/11/2007 11:41:12 PM

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The only thing that comes of these fat threads is that people that say they don't care, can't resist the urge to tell other people they don't care, which leads me to the conclusion the vast majority of people care so much that they must make sure everyone knows they don't care.

LOL.

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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 5/12/2007 12:07:52 AM

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If someone is "very happy" with how they look as they have stated...overweight and all...then why are they posting a pic of a beautiful and "normal-sized" woman on their profile? That is going to be like "false advertising" to most men. You know how they respond VISUALLY and oftentimes only look at pics and don't even read your profile. I thought that WAS the person who had posted until I READ her post all the way through. When you tell most men that is NOT you, it only gives them a reason to respond in that rude and inappropriate manner...which, alot of them do. I say...be proud of WHO you are and HOW you look. Post a pic or pics of yourself unless you have some other reason for not doing so...ie. anonymity purposes. I have several pics of myself on my profile...in all my "overweight splendor"...however, I don't have any full body pics that are recent. Apparently, I photograph smaller than I am. I tell men up front that I need to lose 50 pounds and they just don't believe me. What do they want? Me to shove my "fat ass" in their face and prove it? LOL Obviously, some of them do!

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RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we shoul... - 5/12/2007 12:14:49 AM

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Or...it could be because there are some of us whom don't feel the need to hide in a corner, ashamed of our bodies until we meet some unattainable standard.

One of my coworkers actually chewed up pieces of food at lunch today and then spit them out because they were "too good" and she "couldn't swallow them" because those couple of bites would ruin her figure. I enjoy meals and don't obsess over food. Which one of us is healthy? And when will people finally decide it's not ok to treat other humans like the way some on this thread have described? Whether it's being harassed for being overweight and exercising or being harassed for lack of a figure, it's all the same.

BTW, I've also experienced the comments when I'm in the process of walking, jogging, or otherwise working out. Makes me want to open a gym where anyone who's not fat isn't allowed just so we can exercise in peace.

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