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Degradation 101 - 5/10/2005 8:50:15 AM   
ruffnecksbabygir


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my dear Master loves it when i degrade myself...and i must say i enjoy it verrrrrry much so....i need some ideas however on more ways to incorporate degradation into the mix. What are your ideas on this topic? what turns you on, if indeed it does, about degradation.



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RE: Degradation 101 - 5/10/2005 9:09:10 AM   
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Next time you are at a party, put ten boxes on your chest with "Ask me" on top. Then go around and flirt wildly and let people know you need at least 10 people to do something they consider very degrading to you.

Go whore yourself out for free- perhaps bring back the condoms.

Write yucky words and insults all over your body and walk around like that.

Shave your head.

Diapers tend to be really degrading.

Degrading puts me in a deeply humbling position towards the Owner, it forces me to look at my own ego, to examine who I am and what I really value about myself.

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RE: Degradation 101 - 5/10/2005 9:16:27 AM   
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quote:

What are your ideas on this topic?


when Master and His slave attended the Folsom Fringe event last year there was a raffle and auction. the auction item was a woman, naked, in a small cage. she was on display for about 2 hours prior to the auction, with a note attached to the cage that the winner of the auction would be able to do whatever they wanted to her. during the time she was on display people passed by the cage, insulting her, sticking lollipops in her orifices that she pushed up against the sides of the cage, etc. humiliating and degrading? very much...also.....verrrrry hot.

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RE: Degradation 101 - 5/10/2005 9:34:10 AM   
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My inexperience is sure apparent when I read posts like this. TY for insights galore. :)

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RE: Degradation 101 - 5/10/2005 10:11:38 AM   
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stand on a street corner have Master make you pee your panties..........Do it in a restaraunt..................


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RE: Degradation 101 - 5/10/2005 12:35:10 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SmilinFSub

My inexperience is sure apparent when I read posts like this. TY for insights galore. :)


*smiles* We all were newbies at one point in time. I suggest you read http://www.albanypowerexchange.com/Ds/humiliation.htm to get a better understanding of humiliation.

Humiliation is often different for each, and the line between true degradation and sexual erotic degradation can be a tricky one to find. Sometimes it is as simple as the way a phrase is done.. think about how you'd feel about having each of these said to you

You fucking bitch
vs
My little bitch

You disgusting slut
vs
My dirty lil slut

One is immediately more erotic because it claims ownership. However, the ones that sound bad when said in a normal situation can be sexy when in scene. Example.. Dom whispers in her ear.. You've been a fucking bitch today and need to be taught a lesson. *pulls her pants down and spanks her*

In the end though, it comes down to erotic humiliation/degradation being a personal thing. If it turns you and your partner on, it is erotic and great. If it leaves either of you feeling truly bad, it has crossed the line.

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stand on a street corner have Master make you pee your panties..........Do it in a restaraunt..................


Both of your suggestions violate the rules of SSC. You'd be involving vanilla people who have NOT consented to witness these acts.



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RE: Degradation 101 - 5/10/2005 12:37:10 PM   
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quote:

stand on a street corner have Master make you pee your panties..........Do it in a restaraunt

So you think it's ok to involve other people nonconsensually in that kind of play, or that it would be funny to make the family next to you in the restaurant ruin their meal by witnessiing a woman peeing herself? I'm can't decide how to describe that attitude, so you pick the word you like -- idiotic, contemptible, ignorant, inconsiderate, assinine, subhuman . . . oh, I could go on. Actually, instead of picking one word, just use them all.

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RE: Degradation 101 - 5/10/2005 1:18:33 PM   
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Well, I had hoped that people had the background to consider the obvious givens........it is not necessary to have witnesses to any part of these things............If I am sitting in a intimate setting in a lowlighted restaraunt, and you can get under the table and see that, that then is non-consensual, consider coats, I did not say yell and make sure people are looking and stand where everybody on the planet can see you and parade up and down the block..........btw what color was the tie of the guy that sat behind you to your right at the last place you ate out..........I was thinking of a little polish and a little poise.........not a parade!!!!!!!! and how far do you go with non-consensual.........just to beat me up? Fetish clothing in public? Going into an adult store? I am not advocating exhibitionist behavior thank you.
What I advocate is as innocuous as writing whore in lipstick under your clothing or is that also non-consensual?
Ron

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RE: Degradation 101 - 5/10/2005 1:27:42 PM   
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I would be ok with peeing your pants in public if it were in the woods or a park or out in the rain where no one would have to clean it up or possibly have contact with it accidentally.

But peeing in a restaurant or closed space means it's going to just sit there, people will notice and someone's going to have to clean it up. I don't think thats a very nice thing to do.

I'm all about pushing social boundaries. I go to social events with multiple partners and show affection for both, I'm ok with kneeling and doing fairly simple quiet bdsm things as long as it doesn't actively interfere with others enjoyment of their experience. But forcing people to smell, see and clean up your mess is not cool.

It's not cool to litter either!

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RE: Degradation 101 - 5/10/2005 1:29:34 PM   
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quote:

btw what color was the tie of the guy that sat behind you to your right at the last place you ate out


It was dark blue with a red design, didn't really match with his black pants, although he was wearing a black belt and shoes so that made it a little better. His date was wearing a black dress with a beautiful cream colored wrap and black strappy shoes.

I'm not trying to be a smart-ass, I really do notice and remember things like that.

Just thought I would throw in my opinion about the actual topic that is being discussed as well....
Nothing should be done in a pace where there is even the slightest chance of a non-consenting adult, or worse an under-age person, could see. It's just not fair or right.

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RE: Degradation 101 - 5/10/2005 2:35:54 PM   
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Degradation is making her call herself "this cunt" instead of "I," even in front of others. Other people might not like that, but fuck them--she's not their slave.

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RE: Degradation 101 - 5/11/2005 11:07:06 AM   
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I agree with this ONLY IN A KINK SETTING, such as a play party or event. Anyplace else, you're infringing upon others who have not agreed to be part of your scene/lifestyle.


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RE: Degradation 101 - 5/11/2005 1:31:22 PM   
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Great topid again. As for the peeing the pants. How about putting on depends, and then making the sub pee in the pants in public? Really, i havent much experience here yet, but i'll try. A nice little fantasy is to make a slave drink tons and tons of cold liquid. (soda is BAD as it can cause a urniary tract infection). My cold coffee or tea. Having said sub hold it and hold it and hold it and hold it, and having her go in the back yard? Tie her to a tree inthe woods and have her pee herself there.

Or i read once about a girl taking and enema and holding it and releasing it in the tub with Master watching. Having Master take you on a walk (with a leash) so you do number two for him. Food on the floor?

Er i dunno, but cant wait to see what everyone elses ideas are.

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RE: Degradation 101 - 5/11/2005 1:37:00 PM   
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How about putting on depends, and then making the sub pee in the pants in public?


Maybe this is only my experience, but people still know. I work in a drug store so people come in wearing Depends quite often. You still notice and it still smells. Maybe this is only the case with these people, but it is something to consider

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RE: Degradation 101 - 5/11/2005 1:41:40 PM   
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I don't believe people have a right not to be offended. If they don't like the way someone talks to his or her partner, they can leave the room. But if you took your argument to its extreme, you'd have to secure everyone's permission before saying anything--after all, who's to know what is going to offend someone?

Lam

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ORIGINAL: BeachMystress
I agree with this ONLY IN A KINK SETTING, such as a play party or event. Anyplace else, you're infringing upon others who have not agreed to be part of your scene/lifestyle.



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RE: Degradation 101 - 5/11/2005 1:44:28 PM   
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When he uses my orifices as a watering hole.

When I'm forced to get naked in front of people and masterbate in front of them.

When i pee my little white school girl pants and have to explain this to the School Master.

ahhhh wonderful

arwen xx

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RE: Degradation 101 - 5/11/2005 1:49:25 PM   
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i agree with this.

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RE: Degradation 101 - 5/11/2005 1:51:00 PM   
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i love all these ideas! what about verbal degradation? besides the "i'm your cunt" or "i'm a nasty whore" type thing which i have already used over and over again!

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RE: Degradation 101 - 5/11/2005 1:59:55 PM   
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You can take one of those fat Sharpies and write, for example, "[email protected] fucked this bitch in the ass, 5/11/05" on her back. Then take a picture (with a digital camera, I'd recommend). That's at least partly verbal. Or you could make HER write it on a piece of paper and hold it in her mouth while you take the snapshot.

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ORIGINAL: ruffnecksbabygir

i love all these ideas! what about verbal degradation? besides the "i'm your cunt" or "i'm a nasty whore" type thing which i have already used over and over again!


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RE: Degradation 101 - 5/11/2005 3:28:36 PM   
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I don't believe people have a right not to be offended. If they don't like the way someone talks to his or her partner, they can leave the room. But if you took your argument to its extreme, you'd have to secure everyone's permission before saying anything--after all, who's to know what is going to offend someone?

Lam

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ORIGINAL: BeachMystress
I agree with this ONLY IN A KINK SETTING, such as a play party or event. Anyplace else, you're infringing upon others who have not agreed to be part of your scene/lifestyle.





Well, I know that if I saw people having a vicious argument in public, or if I saw somene being made clearly uncomfortable, humiliated, or degraded in a non-kink setting I would -definatly- approach the people and confront whomever was doing the "top" part. I would do this even as someone who lives an "alternative lifestyle." (and yes, i have done this. It isn't just bluster.)

Can you imagine what someone who -doesn't- think bdsm is ok would do?

I would also be upset if I had small children in a place where someone was calling herself "this cunt." I plan on raising my children aware of sexual practices, however I belieive this is unnecessary exposure.

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