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RE: The Great Domme Migration - 5/29/2007 12:01:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: NicsBit

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ORIGINAL: MamaDomme

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ORIGINAL: NicsBit

My previous Domme was diagnosed with cancer, so decided to move to California..but on the way to the airport, she got hit and killed by a drunk driver.



teehee--- Now I understand!!!

*winks*


Happens all the time around here - just last week there was a another tragic RTA involving a cancer-ridden Domme and a drunk driver.  We even have a residential unit where bereaved submissives can go...it's a great place, clean and tidy as anything, though no one can ever make a decision - quite sad in a way.



ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: The Great Domme Migration - 5/29/2007 12:22:46 PM   
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It can be annoying to read that 99% of all subs are fakes, but so what. Include yourself in the elusive 1% , you know if you are genuine or not. So why get hot under the collar ?


My sentiments exactly. Thank you politesub for living up to your name. I, for one, always live up to mine ;)


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RE: The Great Domme Migration - 5/29/2007 12:29:11 PM   
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quote:

i didn't change anyone's name here, just used the promoted name of a group in
my offering of what "pigmales" will see, can't put it plainer than that.


Just to be clear, you did in fact start referring to DianeB269  as "strapon Diane" as if that were her name. When in fact, she runs a group called "strapon by Diane" but I guess that if you ran a group called "cock sucking by chia" it would be ok to call you "cocksucking chia" as your name.  Just making sure the logic is consistent here. I really am not trying to be a pest, just making a point.


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RE: The Great Domme Migration - 5/29/2007 1:46:48 PM   
Calandra


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quote:

ORIGINAL: DominaSmartass

quote:

i didn't change anyone's name here, just used the promoted name of a group in
my offering of what "pigmales" will see, can't put it plainer than that.


Just to be clear, you did in fact start referring to DianeB269  as "strapon Diane" as if that were her name. When in fact, she runs a group called "strapon by Diane" but I guess that if you ran a group called "cock sucking by chia" it would be ok to call you "cocksucking chia" as your name.  Just making sure the logic is consistent here. I really am not trying to be a pest, just making a point.



But, But, But you can't call chia* "cocksucking chia" - thats what the asterisk is for!!!
At MystressWorld, those who won't suck cock have an "*" after their name so us Dommes don't accidentally violate the poor boy's wishes.
 
Of course you've never been inside MW so you wouldn't know that... much like those males who have never been there don't know what the term pigmale is referring to. It's an elitist way of separating MW drones from the rest of us.

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RE: The Great Domme Migration - 5/29/2007 1:48:17 PM   
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LOL..I have gotten way too many of the...left behind,moved to CA,
moved to Canada and the ever faithful...The Dommes passed away from
everything from Cancer to How many kinds of Cancer are there anyway?  






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RE: The Great Domme Migration - 5/29/2007 1:56:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Calandra

Chia,
 
I have been sitting quietly on the sidelines for long enough. To be honest, I take issue with your term "pigmales". I know that is a term you have been taught by Mystress at MystressWorld, and I respect that it has merit in your training, however I feel that to come onto a forum outside of MystressWorld and advance that term is disrespectful.
 
Not all males are submissive.
Not all males are submissive to the degree your Mystress desires.
Not all males are submissive for the same reasons your Mystress expects.
Not all males would respond favorably to the training you seem to thrive in.
Some males are confused and using this forum to learn, making many mistakes as they go.
Some males are simply becoming hopeless because (gasp) there are so many lying Dommes.
 
Not all males who believe differently than you are,are pigmales. That's insulting, and while your "Dearest Mystress" may encourage this terminology, others here do not have to embrace it. I know you are expected to follow the "plan" and "talk up" MystressWorld a certain number of hours and a certain number of places each week, but don't expect people to fit into Mystress' narrow view of D/s philosophy just because you do. I'm glad it works for you. On the other hand, I respect those males who can think for themselves without being brainwashed into thinking that OSODD is the "be-all and end-all" of this lifestyle.
 
By the way, of those Mistresses you listed, how many of them have you spent time with, face to face? 


Dearest Mistress Calandra,

Thank You for stepping out of the shadows and offering exchange, silent voices
offer nothing to no one. You are within your right to take exception to my use of
the word "pigmales", as much as i am in my right to desire not to be grouped with
those i consider to be such. Long before my studies at MystressWorld, i often
referred to those of my gender whom acted as such as "pigs". Dearest Mystress
simply supplied the "males" to complete the package. How is it disrespectful to
call a "pig" a "pig"? There exists endless posts of Dommes whom offer endless
scenerios of the "pig" like behavior spewed at Them, Their examples, not mine.
If i put a name to it other than "submissive", it is because we submissives get
included as a whole within the bad behavior of those whom seek to satisfy their
own desires and kink, acting upon disrespectful behavior which draws so much
displeasure from the Dommes here.

i have never stated any of the references to submission You offer as my own
definition. i have stated in many posts that we are all different in our own
unique way. Here, and in many other posts, it has been myself who has resisted
being grouped and labeled, held to a litmus test of what i should be. The original
line of thought pertained to "submissives" being liars, however humorous it
was presented. We are all liars at some point, i even uped the figure from 99%
to 100% myself. It was specific Dommes whom introduced the sexual innuendo
and rebuked behavior of a sexual nature into the discussion, not myself. The 
behavior which They described towards Them was not of a submissive nature,
but more in the line of a typical player, kink, fantasy, "do me" male. i simply
chose to call them "pigmales" because their actions spoke of such to me. Call
the behavior what You will, just don't call it submission, that is my passionate
point in regard to the behavior the Dommes here offered as so very distasteful.

i never stated that all males who believe differently than myself were "pigmales",
simply not a true statement, certainly not made by me. i merely offered the term
as opposed to "submissive" in the context of the converstation concering those
whom the Dommes found the application of immediate and uninvited sexual
request and demand as abhorrent. Again, got a better term? Feel free to use it,
just don't gift such with "submissive", as one, i myself am insulted by such and
refuse to embrace the simplicity and ease of which my submission is afforded
to those whose actions speak anything but. 

As for Dearest Mystress and MystressWorld, i have said it before, and i will say
it again here. It isn't for everyone as nothing ever is, will work for some, but not
for all. It is a voluntary, not mandatory approach to study of D/s relationships.
Dearest Mystress's philosophies are mere catalyst for study and discussion
between the submissives and Dommes at MystressWorld. i have often and
openly disagreed or presented a differing view or understanding while in the
exchange of lesson with the Dommes there. "Narrow" as it may be, it is but
a starting point for exploration and discovery, for understanding and insight.

Individual Domme and Her boys are to discuss such as it relates to them,
as it applies to them, pick it apart, turn it asunder, or discard it entirely, it is all
part of the process of learning in a structured environment where proper protcol
is a requirement. i don't think my desire to quell the oh so often barrage of
"what's wrong with the submissives now" is a narrow point of view. The study
regimen at MystressWorld does work for me, and i am Thankful for the fortune
of opportunity to share and learn from the Dommes within, a gift most precious
to my heart. "Brainwashed", You frankly insult me with such accusation, a jab
unworthy of it's intent. i am speaking here, these are my words, from my heart,
and i most definitely can think for myself. There is no one standing over my
shoulder coaching my stream of thought, all clockwork orange and such, that
i will believe only that which i am allowed to believe. Really, that was a pretty
lame statement and a feeble attempt to advance whatever agenda you are
advancing here. ~~Yes Mistress, Yes Mistress~~, oh wait, i was in a bit of a
trance there, please forgive me everyone, please forgive me. Hilarious i must say.

As for any be-all, end-all philosophy reference to the OSODD training series,
i have studied such, have referenced the Pavlovian Theory pertaining to such,
and find it quite interesting and more than applicable as a chosen method,
should a Domme so choose to do so. Can work, and if Pavlov can be believed,
does. Some Dommes will have no interest in such, having Her own desires and
requirements of Her boy, again, it is catalyst for study and research, not the
secret code to a successful D/s relationship. All will require what they will,
allow what they will, be as unique as they will, regardless of subjects one
studies to enhance and enlighten their journey. Apparently, no one here
accesses information beyond their own understanding if Your attitude is to
be considered the norm. Apparently no one reading books relating to any
of the subjects discussed here, for none were mentioned by You.

You are absolutely correct that Dearest Mystress requires of Her boys to offer
the awareness of MystressWorld out in the community wherein we participate.
She calls it recruitment, and it is required of us as a offering of our commitment
as Her boys. i do so when ever the opportunity arises, not so much because i
have to, but because i want to. ~~Yes Mistress, Yes Mistress~~, sorry, gone
again there, but just for a moment. i strongly believe that Dearest Mystress and
MystressWorld have lifted me up into a greater understanding of myself as a
submissive, and has given me glorious insight within the sharing of a Dominant
point of view, not just of Dearest Mystress, but of all the wonderful Dommes
i have had the fortune to study under. i certainly don't punch a time clock in
reference to my recruitment, though this post should cover the week nicely,
Thank You. Is such really any different than what occurs here on a daily basis,
whether above board, or in subtle conversation, or simply listed as link in the
well into the hundreds of profiles and messages. Thanks for singling me out,
what an opportunity, i shall speak to Dearest Mystress about You and Your
kind help for the cause. One couldn't ask for better publicity, whether they
come or not, the seed is planted. The vast majority of what i do and speak
here, is of my own design, separate from my MystressWorld connection,
which is my study program. i am a submissive, i seek to learn, to share, to
communicate with others in the community. i hold hopes, fears and desires
just like everyone else here. i strive to be as honest and genuine as i possibly
can with others i am blessed to meet along the path. CM is no different,
i am not here because i have to be, i am here because i want to be. Before
anything else, i am chia* (the pet) a boy with a heart of gold, and a world
of love and devotion to share. Do not define me with within Your boundries.

By the way, of those Mistresses i listed, i have have spent time with only one
face to face. That would be my most Dearest MotherMistress, the most
Powerful Woman to ever grace my life. i am the reflection of Her command
and requirement. i invite all to read of my devotion to Her in my profile, as
to do such here could not afford Her the glory She is due. The others listed
are wonderful Dommes whom i have had the fortune to study under at
MystressWorld, yes cyber, yes online, but not diminished by such by any
means. i have studied under Their watchful eye for two years, after being
swept up from the disappointment of empty and endless searching in a
world i did not quite understand. As a child, i was held to the design of
the Dominants whom took from me what they desired, creating a heart
of surrender and submission. As an adult, the vanilla world and marriage
found me satisfied but aching for that which was missing, that which had
been my life. The end of my marriage catapulted me into a season of kink,
deviant behavior, and unfulfilled attempts to recapture that which had
raised my heart, mind and body as a child. It was there, tangled within
darkness and deceit where Dearest Mystress found me. Some will say i was
ripe for rescue, and i will be the first to agree with them. i am most grateful
that it was my most beloved Dearest Mystress whom reached out Her hand.

There have been others, few and far between, unworthy experiences to list
among my precious Dommes. One i spoke of here previously, when after
meeting, the conversation immediately turned to bank accounts, power of
attorney etc.  As most would understand, i fled from such, as i am a boy,
not simply a bank account. Another spoke firmly and powerfully, but in a
short time, the relationship became as a vanilla coupling, i had no sense of
surrender to Her, as i became simply a lover in Her eyes. Yet another
offered a simple mean spiritedness, spewing vulgarity as if i should be
adoring of such, i was not. One simply wished a plaything for Her elderly
submissive, i wished for more. i ventured into groups, but always felt out
of place in such, feeling ashamed as i walked away. And the beat goes on.

Have i answered Your queries to Your satisfaction Dearest Mistress Calandra?
Or do You wish to see me cut open and bleed just a bit more? i am chia*,
i speak for myself, it is after everything else, my journey, my life to live. Others
will offer their wisdom and insight, i am most often grateful for such. Some will
come for other intent, perhaps to wound, perhaps to uplift themselves in the
process, it matters not. i have lived and survived what has been handed to me,
taken from me, ripped from my heart and body, the eyes of a child are still
here with me, and they see what they see, and every now and then they look
back and remember, and it all begins again, and i find myself looking out
among them, that perhaps one will eventually look back.

Born to serve, chia* (the pet)

  

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RE: The Great Domme Migration - 5/29/2007 2:23:49 PM   
HotelDomination


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To igor2003
Just out of curiosity, for those submissives who's previous Mistress DID move away would it be better to not mention having served at all, or to tell the truth and be thought a lier?  Many people believe that omission is as bad as a lie, but in this instance if a sub tells the truth, apparently many potential Mistresses will label him a lier and move on.


Thats the catch 22 situation isnt it? Some ARE really telling the truth, but there are so many that are not that it spoils things for the genuine ones..........................what do you do?

But you would be amazed at the amount of Mistresses that have also been ill.........I think that perhaps this is where a good idea is to part on good terms, then your previous Mistress may agree to providing a reference for you. (unless of course she had died).

I find that if I am in doubt, asking for a reference can be the deciding and defining factor. Then the bullshit is out, the reference simply does not materialise.

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RE: The Great Domme Migration - 5/29/2007 2:24:48 PM   
chiaThePet


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quote:

ORIGINAL: DominaSmartass

quote:


It can be annoying to read that 99% of all subs are fakes, but so what. Include yourself in the elusive 1% , you know if you are genuine or not. So why get hot under the collar ?


My sentiments exactly. Thank you politesub for living up to your name. I, for one, always live up to mine ;)



Dearest DominaSmartass,

Let the games begin!

For starters, i will do You the favor of posting politesubs last reply to me here,
just so we can see his thoughts after he and i discussed. And Print......

Chia, you are correct. I did indeed use the word fakes when i should have used liars, although one is much the same as the other in my opinion. Again, i am sorry ( sheesh thats twice in one day )  i really should pay more attention to detail.

I fully agree that anyone starting of a thread, especially a contentious one, stands to be shot down and rightly so in some circumstances. I am also happy that you replied to me, it never hurts to understand viewpoints, even different from my own. I am the first to admit im not always right, as i have done here.

Mostly though, i`m perfect.  End Quote.

As for living up to Your name Dearest DominaSmartass, i find You to be simply
childs play, far from that which You hope to be. And what's with the picture
change Dear, i mean the purple hair zoom-in previously offered was bad enough.
Now You gift us with this funeral home portrait of pale hues. i feel compelled
to pray.

Born to serve, chia* (the pet)

edited because i forgot to dot an i, so beat me.

< Message edited by chiaThePet -- 5/29/2007 3:08:29 PM >


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RE: The Great Domme Migration - 5/29/2007 2:31:54 PM   
chiaThePet


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quote:

ORIGINAL: DominaSmartass

quote:

i didn't change anyone's name here, just used the promoted name of a group in
my offering of what "pigmales" will see, can't put it plainer than that.


Just to be clear, you did in fact start referring to DianeB269  as "strapon Diane" as if that were her name. When in fact, she runs a group called "strapon by Diane" but I guess that if you ran a group called "cock sucking by chia" it would be ok to call you "cocksucking chia" as your name.  Just making sure the logic is consistent here. I really am not trying to be a pest, just making a point.



Dearest DominaSmartass,

Can You provide legal documentation that i changed Dearest Diane's name to
"straponDiane"? Yes She would be the one complaining of "others" contacting
Her wishing for Her to f--k them, though i can't guess where perhaps they
would ever get that idea. Screaming double standard here, need i say more?
We will cover the whole "cocksucker" reference in a post to come, a well
deserved post to come. Gee, i can hardly wait, can You. Look, the masses
are pressing their faces up against the glass now, just to get a closer look
at the mayhem. Heaven, i'm in Heaven.......

Born to serve, chia* (the pet)

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Love is a many splendid sting.

You can stick me in the corner, but I'll probably just end up coloring on the walls.

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RE: The Great Domme Migration - 5/29/2007 2:32:14 PM   
Calandra


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chia*,
I simply pointed out that there are often more than one way of looking at things. You use "pigmale" but you don't caringly or willingly explain how you use that term. Any time you use that term, it is a way of labeling others who do not believe as you do. And yes, it IS an insult, the way you use it. You look down upon those who do not submit the way you do.
 
Yes, we Dommes do come online and complain about the treatment we recieve. We network, we discuss, and sometimes we just have to laugh. Some Dommes will make claims that a "true submissive" does this, or doesn't do that. Dommes call these men liars, fakes, and many other names. I trust that if you pulled up every single post I've ever made (here or elsewhere) you would be hard pressed to find Me generalizing about "all" subs, or "true" slaves.
 
Why? Because I take each person as an individual. Dommes bitch (sorry ladies, you DO) about one line emails. Guess what? I got a "Hello Mystress" email from someone just today. (Don't get confused, I have been Mystress Calandra for many many years). My reply to that person? "Hello ______, How are you?" The way I figure it, the person might just be searching for a live body who might answer him when he messages. OR he might be feeling shy about approaching, and felt unsure, shy. I don't assume it means he's a loser or a time-waster. I've ended up having wonderful conversations with men who were only compatible as a friend and nothing more. Then again, they might be a time-waster... so? I have time to waste. Still not a pigmale in My opinion.
 
You seem truly offended at the term brainwashing... I do not attribute good or bad to the word. Are My boys brainwashed? About some things, oh hell yes they are! Does that mean that overall they cannot think for themselves? no, they brethe when they need to, defacate when they need to, hold jobs when they need to, express themselves quite effectively when they need to. Only when they encounter an issue where I have inserted MY will above theirs does that brainwashing kick in. In My post to you I simply mean that MW seems to cling to a very (VERY) narrow philosophy and those who are associated with Her are brainwashed in that vein, but that not all will embrace it. You can't expect them to.
 
I do notice that for someone who claims to be a submissive, you do take offense where none was intended, and get insulting towards people as a result. I have done you no wrong. I intend you no wrong. I simply disagree with your philosophy and with your useage of it in a mainstream forum to insult others.
 
I know where My boys visit and post, and I observe their behavior towards others. I will gently (and sometimes not so gently) correct their attitudes towards others. If you were Mine, and you were discussing MY terminology and protocols as you are discussing Mystress' here in these forums, I would reprimand you severely based upon your tone alone. I expect My boys to be polite and respectful to all. When they come across someone they disagree with, I expect them to be even more polite and respectful than normal in order to not lose their place as My slave. "but Mystress, She started it!" is not a defense in My book.
 
I, personally will continue to discuss submissives as a group - rejecting insulting terminology and pointing out commonalities and differences where I see fit. Submissive, to Me does not always mean 24/7. Sometimes it truly means that they have a specific fetish that makes them feel submissive, sometimes it means they are submissive at home, but not in public, sometimes it means they are sexually submissive, but dominant everywhere else. That does NOT make them a pigmale or any less valid than you.
 
Subject closed on MY part. If you do not like My opinions, or feel the need to insult Me, please just do us all a favor and skip My posts.
 
I know that I will refrain from reading yours in the future.

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RE: The Great Domme Migration - 5/29/2007 2:38:54 PM   
DominaSmartass


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This whole thing has gotten so blown out of proportion, I just want to make it know that my intention was not to start a thread to complain about lying or to say that anyone who claims his previous has moved away or died is full of it.  I just found it such a common line that it was humerous and I wanted to see if others were getting the same sorts of emails.

Seriously, if someone piques my interest, I will get to know him regardless of what his last relationship status was, how it ended, or if he's a complete newbie. It was nothing more than a humorous observation.  Maybe it's our fault for giving new subs the impression that we only want experienced ones. Hence they feel the need to create a former mistress and explain why they are no longer with her.


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RE: The Great Domme Migration - 5/29/2007 2:56:57 PM   
chiaThePet


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Calandra

quote:

ORIGINAL: DominaSmartass

quote:

i didn't change anyone's name here, just used the promoted name of a group in
my offering of what "pigmales" will see, can't put it plainer than that.


Just to be clear, you did in fact start referring to DianeB269  as "strapon Diane" as if that were her name. When in fact, she runs a group called "strapon by Diane" but I guess that if you ran a group called "cock sucking by chia" it would be ok to call you "cocksucking chia" as your name.  Just making sure the logic is consistent here. I really am not trying to be a pest, just making a point.



But, But, But you can't call chia* "cocksucking chia" - thats what the asterisk is for!!!
At MystressWorld, those who won't suck cock have an "*" after their name so us Dommes don't accidentally violate the poor boy's wishes.
 
Of course you've never been inside MW so you wouldn't know that... much like those males who have never been there don't know what the term pigmale is referring to. It's an elitist way of separating MW drones from the rest of us.


Dearest MistressCalandra,

Well, well, well, spilling the beans before the pot is cooked, just couldn't wait
until they were served before gorging Yourself on the contents. Gee, what did
i ever do to You? i do know what You've attempted to do to me though.
Guess chia********** has a little splainin to do. And i will hurry such, as
from what i can see, the cows have most certainly come home.

Oh yes, some of us boys at MystressWorld are branded with the ever cherised
***********************************************************
means we are willing to suck cock, as You proper Ladies so eloquently share.
What You don't know Dearest MistressCalandra, is that as a child, i was held
to the requirement of such, to perfect such, that such would be pleasing as i
was commanded to my knees before the deviants. i was given no choice, i
was to do as i was told, to reisist resulted in beatings to which i begged an end
to. When such is placed in one's heart and mind as normal expectation, it
remains there forever, Dearest Mistress Calandra. It remains in the blood of
the innocent FOREVER. And i must say, i am better at it than anyone i have
ever seen surrender to it. You see Dearest Mistress Calandra, when perfection
is required, a boy loses his gag relfex, allowing him to take every inch of their
pathetic excuses of a cock. When a child is held and forced to such, when
breath escapes his trembling body, he does what is necessary to be found
pleasing in their eyes. How dare You make light of what You know nothing
about Dearest MistressCalandra. You think you know everything about a
boy because you've been to MystressWorld? Only an elitist would believe
such, wouldn't You agree Dearest MistressCalandra? Pathetic is the word
i think of as i watch Your self-made pedestal crumble weak with assumption.
You know nothing, and You know even less about me.

Born to serve, chia* (the pet)


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RE: The Great Domme Migration - 5/29/2007 3:06:17 PM   
chiaThePet


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ORIGINAL: Calandra

chia*,
I simply pointed out that there are often more than one way of looking at things. You use "pigmale" but you don't caringly or willingly explain how you use that term. Any time you use that term, it is a way of labeling others who do not believe as you do. And yes, it IS an insult, the way you use it. You look down upon those who do not submit the way you do.
 
Yes, we Dommes do come online and complain about the treatment we recieve. We network, we discuss, and sometimes we just have to laugh. Some Dommes will make claims that a "true submissive" does this, or doesn't do that. Dommes call these men liars, fakes, and many other names. I trust that if you pulled up every single post I've ever made (here or elsewhere) you would be hard pressed to find Me generalizing about "all" subs, or "true" slaves.
 
Why? Because I take each person as an individual. Dommes bitch (sorry ladies, you DO) about one line emails. Guess what? I got a "Hello Mystress" email from someone just today. (Don't get confused, I have been Mystress Calandra for many many years). My reply to that person? "Hello ______, How are you?" The way I figure it, the person might just be searching for a live body who might answer him when he messages. OR he might be feeling shy about approaching, and felt unsure, shy. I don't assume it means he's a loser or a time-waster. I've ended up having wonderful conversations with men who were only compatible as a friend and nothing more. Then again, they might be a time-waster... so? I have time to waste. Still not a pigmale in My opinion.
 
You seem truly offended at the term brainwashing... I do not attribute good or bad to the word. Are My boys brainwashed? About some things, oh hell yes they are! Does that mean that overall they cannot think for themselves? no, they brethe when they need to, defacate when they need to, hold jobs when they need to, express themselves quite effectively when they need to. Only when they encounter an issue where I have inserted MY will above theirs does that brainwashing kick in. In My post to you I simply mean that MW seems to cling to a very (VERY) narrow philosophy and those who are associated with Her are brainwashed in that vein, but that not all will embrace it. You can't expect them to.
 
I do notice that for someone who claims to be a submissive, you do take offense where none was intended, and get insulting towards people as a result. I have done you no wrong. I intend you no wrong. I simply disagree with your philosophy and with your useage of it in a mainstream forum to insult others.
 
I know where My boys visit and post, and I observe their behavior towards others. I will gently (and sometimes not so gently) correct their attitudes towards others. If you were Mine, and you were discussing MY terminology and protocols as you are discussing Mystress' here in these forums, I would reprimand you severely based upon your tone alone. I expect My boys to be polite and respectful to all. When they come across someone they disagree with, I expect them to be even more polite and respectful than normal in order to not lose their place as My slave. "but Mystress, She started it!" is not a defense in My book.
 
I, personally will continue to discuss submissives as a group - rejecting insulting terminology and pointing out commonalities and differences where I see fit. Submissive, to Me does not always mean 24/7. Sometimes it truly means that they have a specific fetish that makes them feel submissive, sometimes it means they are submissive at home, but not in public, sometimes it means they are sexually submissive, but dominant everywhere else. That does NOT make them a pigmale or any less valid than you.
 
Subject closed on MY part. If you do not like My opinions, or feel the need to insult Me, please just do us all a favor and skip My posts.
 
I know that I will refrain from reading yours in the future.


Dearest MistressCalandra,

Hindsight is looking where you've been, not watching where you're going.

Your previous posts to me were obvious in their judgement and rididcule.

You were in fact enjoying Yourself at my expense.

It is what it is, no matter the attempts to explain it away.

Born to serve, chia* (the pet)

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RE: The Great Domme Migration - 5/29/2007 3:17:40 PM   
chiaThePet


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ORIGINAL: DominaSmartass

This whole thing has gotten so blown out of proportion, I just want to make it know that my intention was not to start a thread to complain about lying or to say that anyone who claims his previous has moved away or died is full of it.  I just found it such a common line that it was humerous and I wanted to see if others were getting the same sorts of emails.

Seriously, if someone piques my interest, I will get to know him regardless of what his last relationship status was, how it ended, or if he's a complete newbie. It was nothing more than a humorous observation.  Maybe it's our fault for giving new subs the impression that we only want experienced ones. Hence they feel the need to create a former mistress and explain why they are no longer with her.



Dearest DominaSmartass,

Thank You, i simply in the beginning was pointing out that it seems submissives
were always being found to have fault, such escalated for myself, when the
sexual "do me's" were also being referred to as submissives. i just wish not to
be grouped within their ranks, as i am not such a boy, nor do i believe every
Domme feels the same about every situation. i simply wish more of the good
side of submissives were shared of the Dommes here, whether humorous or not.
As You can see, i am verrrrrrrry passionate about my feelings in regard to such.
Thank You for this post.

Born to serve, chia* (the pet) 

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RE: The Great Domme Migration - 5/29/2007 3:42:36 PM   
Calandra


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quote:

ORIGINAL: chiaThePet

quote:

ORIGINAL: Calandra

But, But, But you can't call chia* "cocksucking chia" - thats what the asterisk is for!!!
At MystressWorld, those who won't suck cock have an "*" after their name so us Dommes don't accidentally violate the poor boy's wishes.
 
Of course you've never been inside MW so you wouldn't know that... much like those males who have never been there don't know what the term pigmale is referring to. It's an elitist way of separating MW drones from the rest of us.


Dearest MistressCalandra,

Well, well, well, spilling the beans before the pot is cooked, just couldn't wait
until they were served before gorging Yourself on the contents(1.). Gee, what did
i ever do to You?(2.)  i do know what You've attempted to do to me though(3.) .
Guess chia********** has a little splainin to do. And i will hurry such, as
from what i can see, the cows have most certainly come home.

Oh yes, some of us boys at MystressWorld are branded with the ever cherised
***********************************************************
means we are willing to suck cock, as You proper Ladies so eloquently share.
What You don't know Dearest MistressCalandra(4.) , is that as a child, i was held
to the requirement of such, to perfect such, that such would be pleasing as i
was commanded to my knees before the deviants. i was given no choice, i
was to do as i was told, to reisist resulted in beatings to which i begged an end
to. When such is placed in one's heart and mind as normal expectation, it
remains there forever, Dearest Mistress Calandra(5.) . It remains in the blood of
the innocent FOREVER. And i must say, i am better at it than anyone i have
ever seen surrender to it. You see Dearest Mistress Calandra, when perfection
is required, a boy loses his gag relfex, allowing him to take every inch of their
pathetic excuses of a cock. When a child is held and forced to such, when
breath escapes his trembling body, he does what is necessary to be found
pleasing in their eyes. How dare You make light of what You know nothing
about Dearest MistressCalandra(6.) . You think you know everything about a
boy because you've been to MystressWorld?(7.)  Only an elitist would believe
such, wouldn't You agree Dearest MistressCalandra?(8.)  Pathetic is the word
i think of as i watch Your self-made pedestal crumble weak with assumption.(9.)
You know nothing, (10.) and You know even less about me.

Born to serve, chia* (the pet)



chia*
I can see that I have struck a nerve in you. For that, I apologize. I do not apologize for the content of My posts however. I maintain that I have offered no offense, I simply tried to handle an ugly situation with explanation and with added humor. 
 
chia, when you used sarcasm early on in this thread to make a point, people felt you were insulting. Now I have used sardonic language and YOU feel insulted. Why do you expect Me to accept your pain from your past? Why do you assume that since you feel hurt, insulted, offended, victimized by My words, that that was My intent? It's okay for you to use "humor" and make your points, but when I do it, I am a horrible person. I will answer your comments one by one:
1.) Assumption - you assume I am just sitting here with nothing better to do than insult and demean you? please.
2.) Victimization - You did nothing "to me". I was a bystander who noticed that your posts were a bit one-sided and that you could use a dose of reality. I (maybe mistakenly) thought you were trying to be understood by the readers here. I was trying to "help" - stupid Me.
3.) Veiled assumption - Exactly what do you "think" you know? You have not one iota of impact on My life. I read these forums, offer ideas, suggestions, agreements and disagreements, but always with an eye to being a positive addition whenever possible. I have read your posts in the past with interest and in this thread your attitude seemed different. I was trying to understand and assist you in understanding one thing that "might" have been hindering you. Excuuuuse Me.
4.) You're right, I DIDN'T KNOW about your alleged molestation. Therefore I cannot possibly have culpability for your past or your feelings about it.
5.) What YOU DON'T KNOW is that I was molested from the age of five to twelve by a sadistic, hurtful person who was trusted within My family. I found out later that the whole family knew and were just relieved that I was his target because then they weren't. I do not hold you accountable for My past. I also do not expect you to walk on eggshells when posting somewhere that I might read it to avoid hitting a nerve in Me. I take responsibility for MY RESPONSES - Do you?
6.) Rather than making light of your molestation, I am making light of those who find cocksucking ENJOYABLE and who do not equate it with victimization. You are taking MY words and adding emotion and motives that I did not have in My heart. Get over it.
7.) Actually, I found Mystressworld to be very flat. In 18 years I have learned more about the male psyche than Mystressworld can possibly offer. There are NOT only three types of male slaves - there are many. They cannot be trained successfully with cookie-cutter mentality. OK so the teachings there resonate within you I RESPECT that, but they do not apply to everyone, and that was My original point. Relax already!
8.) Elite is defined as: the socially superior part of society. I'm sorry but the term cannot be applied as you have tried to use it. I have continuously tried to explain that insulting someone so as to make them seem inferior (using "pigmale" for example) is elitist.
9.) Assumption and Insult - Once again when you disagree or feel offended you have to insult the other person. I noticed your comments to DominaSmartass. You stepped over the line from attacking ideas and issues to attacking her personally about her picture. Do you feel good about yourself when you do that? You've lost perspective and self control at this point and are typing from emotion. How can you claim to be submissive and able to yield control over yourself, when you do not possess control first?
10.) Sorry, just because you will never benefit from My knowledge doesn't mean I don't possess it.

You seem to be very defensive today. I am not your enemy simply because I disagree with you. Take what I've said at face value and we will get along fine, read into it what you want to read, and we will simply have to ignore each other from here on out because I choose not to argue with you.

Have a wonderful life, but don't infringe upon My right to have a wonderful life too. 

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Athens, Ga.
House of Phoenix

"Nothing is ever final until you're dead - and even then I'm sure God negotiates" Anjelica Huston in Everafter

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RE: The Great Domme Migration - 5/29/2007 3:58:39 PM   
Calandra


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It's been a long time since I was accused of being mean spirited... guess it's high time for Me to go, fix dinner for My family, discuss our respective days, laugh, cry or just "be"... mebbe watch a movie - Hell, Maybe I'll let one of My slaves pick the movie (OMG is that switching???).
 
I know that if I remain online, emotions will remain high and no matter what I try to say will be twisted and misunderstood.
 
Thanks for an (initially) interesting and humorous thread.
 
I like your picture, by the way... you look so peaceful and relaxed I just imagine a slave massaging your feet out of range of the camera. LOL
 

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RE: The Great Domme Migration - 5/29/2007 4:38:02 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: chiaThePet

quote:

ORIGINAL: DrkJourney

quote:

ORIGINAL: chiaThePet

Gee, just got this picture of a great herd moving through the Sarengetti,
exploding clouds of dust reaching ever skyward, thunderous echoes
of mighty hoofs striking fear in the hearts of creatures big and small,
then i opened my eyes and realized it's just another "what can we
find wrong with the submissives
" chapter in the book of "why am i alone?"

Mmmmmm, nothing like a hot cup of coffee and the morning views.

Quick boys form a circle, herd em up, move em out, ye hah!

Born to serve, chia* (the pet)


hmmm..I didn't get that at all.  We were simply talking about a small group that contact "us".  I didn't see anyone say anything about ALL submissives do this.

It's just a funny thread....and sometimes it's nice to know that you are not the only one things happen to.


Hmmm, let me check, nope, don't see my use of the word ALL here.

As a Domme once said, "lighten up"

Born to serve, chia* "the train wreck" (pet)


read that phrase and simple misuderstood...not a reason to get nasty......I wasn't trying to be I was just chatting back....

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RE: The Great Domme Migration - 5/29/2007 4:57:56 PM   
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I have heard the " moved away" and died story so many times .. but like others have said ... if either are true then there are details that confirm this .. but for those that are telling lies ... think of a new one please ..these are old and tired ones .. almost in the category of " whats your sign " LOL

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RE: The Great Domme Migration - 5/29/2007 5:55:43 PM   
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Dearest MistressCalandra,

Eh, i'm hardly crumpled up in a ball over here.

i hear You, i already heard You, loud and clear.

You came in flinging knowledge of my devotion to MystressWorld
and my adoration of the Dommes there as if it were some kind
of bad ammunition You could use against me. You knew it would
cross over even that line which i in all my bantering with the Ladies
never crossed. Go back and read, i used humor, sarcasm, heck
even their own help with such to play a raucous game of badboy
badminton. And they were playing right along, batting that birdie
right back over the net. Even when it was taken to another thread,
i played right along, no intent of mean and nasty in my heart. i even
told politesub during our discussion this morning that  i would
apologize to anyone whom felt i disrespected them. No one came
forward demanding such, nope, not one. Then i come back to find
You'd joined the game, only You crossed the line immediately.

How did You think i would react to Your insults to a Woman
whom i hold high regard for, aimed at place i have come to
cherish with all my heart? And yes, with a wicked evil in Your
stance as You did so. Look what I know everybody, I've got
him now, I'll aim for the heart. Turns out You knew only that
which You knew, and now, You know a little more of the story.
Now, they all know a little more of the story.

i hate that You even brought out the ugly in me, and i also
apologize for becoming such, it is not a trait to be proud of.
Your taunting posts were mean spirited, beyond the exchange
which had previously occurred during this thread. We were
all guilty of trying to one up each other, but no one had
sunk to out and out mean. One could smell the wood burning
with each serve of the birdie, trying hard to counterpoint
the other, but it never got downright mean, not until You.

You can outline it, underline it, and numerically pose it,
You can disect it, inspect it and dutifully reject it.
It changes nothing, You crossed the line.

Civility will be in order, as i am a respectful boy.
Enjoy dinner with Your family Mamm.

But eh, i'm hardly crumpled up in a ball over here.

i am chia* (the pet) laughing my way through it all,
because if i stop and think about it, i might just cry.

Born to serve, chia* (the pet)


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You can stick me in the corner, but I'll probably just end up coloring on the walls.

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RE: The Great Domme Migration - 5/29/2007 5:56:08 PM   
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as i have read this post, i have begun to notice the large amount of posts talking about how bad male sub/slaves are and how much they lie and are dishonest. Since this is unfortunately true a lot of the times, one does have to wonder what has happened to all of those female sub/slaves that do the same thing? do they not exsist? are they just a figment of our over active imaginations?  i personally can't stand the term "pig male", but conversely, i also hate the term "pig females" too but strangely enough nobody seems to know that they exsist.

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