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RE: Chasity? Over How long a period? - 5/31/2005 2:07:50 PM

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Mistresses et al.: when I first learned I was going to be in chastity I was thinking that orgasming once per week would be challenging, and reasonable, and once per month would be a necessity. However, my lot, assuming all works out, is to be milked once every 6 weeks, without orgasms ever, as mentioned above, until the relationship ends. Since I don't have a device, the cleanliness issues and such are fortuntaley irrelevant for me.

So, this wasn't really my desire, but something I am submitting to in order to please my Mistress. Regarding my Mistresses desire, it certainly surprised me, and it is extremely challenging for me to comply with (I'm on day 12 now and doing better than the first three days, which were brutal, so I have achieved a certain level of acceptance, but I realize that NEVER is a long time and I'm sure there are challenges ahead).

I was fascinated by the quote above "take him past desire to acceptance" or words to that effect. I still can't quite get my head around this form of submission: it's big. It's quite powerful. It's a bit scary (though not nearly so much so as if a device were employed). When I reach the point of "acceptance" I am thinking that will be a doorway to a deep level of submission. Like everyone I really do like orgasms, so giving them up is really something.

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RE: Chasity? Over How long a period? - 5/31/2005 2:22:55 PM

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However, my lot, assuming all works out, is to be milked once every 6 weeks, without orgasms ever, as mentioned above, until the relationship ends. Since I don't have a device, the cleanliness issues and such are fortuntaley irrelevant for me.

So, this wasn't really my desire, but something I am submitting to in order to please my Mistress.

Well chastity seems to be a great tool to test your submission with; I'll be very curious to know how a sub does over time without any rexual release..
Good luck, M

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RE: Chasity? Over How long a period? - 5/31/2005 7:54:05 PM

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Hello. I have just starting serving a Dominant woman who requires me to be chaste. However, we aren't using a device: she wants me to control myself. I am grateful for this, since I don't want to be locked up that way and I am concerned that it could be dangerous in a number of ways.

That said, the chastity I'm undertaking is pretty extreme, since I will not be allowed to orgasm at all: her orgasms will be enough for both of us, for the duration of the relationship, and I will focus exclusively on her pleasure. I had never considered chastity before, especially this extreme form, but here I am--what a guy will do for a Lady!

I am still concerned that not orgasming at all might be a bad thing, biologically speaking, but my Mistress strongly disagrees. If anyone's interested, I will keep you informed as to my progress. If anyone has an informed medical opinion, I would also like to hear it.

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There have been tests whereby a direct correlation between male ejaculation of seminal fluid and prostate health exists. In fact, the study showed that males who masturbated and/or ejaculated frequently in their 20's significantly reduce the risks of prostate cancer, inflammation, and infections.

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RE: Chasity? Over How long a period? - 5/31/2005 8:31:53 PM

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males who masturbated and/or ejaculated frequently in their 20's significantly reduce the risks of prostate cancer, inflammation, and infections.
Leonardo

Thanks for your input Leonardo;
I'm wondering if milking him every six weeks as he states in the plan would take care of ejaculating need? Is it is it not the same thing (granting one is associated with pleasure)?? M

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RE: Chasity? Over How long a period? - 5/31/2005 9:13:34 PM

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Yes, I'm wondering the same thing Leonardo. My gut feeling would be that more is necessary, and I'm not sure that milking and ejaculation are really interchangeable. My Mistress strongly disagrees, though. I certainly had my share of 20's masturbation (and beyond) so up until now I should be golden. :)

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RE: Chasity? Over How long a period? - 5/31/2005 11:00:03 PM

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males who masturbated and/or ejaculated frequently in their 20's significantly reduce the risks of prostate cancer, inflammation, and infections.
Leonardo

Thanks for your input Leonardo;
I'm wondering if milking him every six weeks as he states in the plan would take care of ejaculating need? Is it is it not the same thing (granting one is associated with pleasure)?? M

Milking only releases the buildup of seminal fluid. The sperm, as I understand the process, joins with the fliud elsewhere prior to ejaculation. Milking is necessary for prostate health. Orgasm, IMO, is important to emotional health.
BTW, I have had boys who tell Me they love to be milked and have the prostate massaged. It is not the same as orgasm, but they claim it can be an "orgasmic experience. Ya know, like when you have a terrible itch, and then someone gives it a good scratch for ya? That can give Me shivers! Not all boys feel this way,. but some do. Others love the humiliation of milking.
Sorry, My medical knowledge is hazy on this. I just know the fluid released in milking usually does not include any sperm. I should go look for a link, but I am lazy tonight!
Anyboody else?
Oh, and if I'm wrong about this, tell Me, have at Me, whatever!

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RE: Chasity? Over How long a period? - 5/31/2005 11:49:45 PM

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It's okay; I'll look it up...
I thought that both would be released, not just seminal fluid. Thanks

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RE: Chasity? Over How long a period? - 6/1/2005 6:03:41 AM

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Well, if both aren't released, then that could be a health problem, since a build-up of sperm, like any build-up, probably isn't a good thing...

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RE: Chasity? Over How long a period? - 6/1/2005 10:06:19 AM

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Milking only releases the buildup of seminal fluid. The sperm, as I understand the process, joins with the fliud elsewhere prior to ejaculation. Milking is necessary for prostate health. Orgasm, IMO, is important to emotional health.
BTW, I have had boys who tell Me they love to be milked and have the prostate massaged. It is not the same as orgasm, but they claim it can be an "orgasmic experience. Ya know, like when you have a terrible itch, and then someone gives it a good scratch for ya? That can give Me shivers! Not all boys feel this way,. but some do. Others love the humiliation of milking.
Sorry, My medical knowledge is hazy on this. I just know the fluid released in milking usually does not include any sperm. I should go look for a link, but I am lazy tonight!
Anyboody else?
Oh, and if I'm wrong about this, tell Me, have at Me, whatever!

You are pretty much spot on DustyGold. Sperm will eventually be released or reabsorbed as it breaks down (you don't have to orgasm to release sperm - that's what nocturnal emissions are - they are not always from "wet dreams" either). The prostate thing though ... the first treatment for enlarged prostate issues is more frequent orgasm/milking. If that doesn't work, then they move on to drugs, radiation/chemo and/or surgery, depending on if it's determined to be cancerous or not (and it is more likely to be the longer it is enlarged). It just makes sense to me that something that is used as the first line of treatment would also be a good preventative.

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RE: Chasity? Over How long a period? - 6/1/2005 12:55:12 PM

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For those who think that total long term chastity might be worthwhile in training a submissive, may I suggest a tollyboy chastity belt. it is inescapable (as much as inescapable can be) and it is also designed to be totally cleaned while the wearer takes a shower or bath. This device is made to be worn very long term, and there are those who have been locked up for a year or more without problems. I do think that the age of the submissive is important. I am an older man, so my need to ejaculate is not as accute as it once was. Notice I said need, not desire. In my case, a chastity belt like a tollyboy would be necessary and should be long term just to keep me sharp for my Mistress. I hope this helps.

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RE: Chasity? Over How long a period? - 6/1/2005 10:09:15 PM

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I am an older man, so my need to ejaculate is not as accute as it once was. Notice I said need, not desire. In my case, a chastity belt like a tollyboy would be necessary and should be long term just to keep me sharp for my Mistress. I hope this helps.

Thanks for the ideas Articulate... You don't worry about losing your ability to perform especially being older and not using your penis? Or does it not matter at all?? M

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RE: Chasity? Over How long a period? - 6/2/2005 3:28:30 AM

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The male slave should be milked at least once a month to clear out toxins that gather in the prostrate. All milking does is clear out the prostrate, and while it may feel good it is not an orgasm. In fact studies show that milking increases the desire for ejaculation, thus when it happens it is extremely intense and to use a tech term "mind blowing "LOL.

If you do not wish to milk, then once a month the male should be allowed to ejaculate to maintain their prostrate health. As with all studies there is no doubt several that say that there is no corealation to milking or ejaculation and prostrate cancer, however my policy is why take the chance.

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RE: Chasity? Over How long a period? - 6/2/2005 5:35:09 AM

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In fact studies show that milking increases the desire for ejaculation

Which studies are you referring to?

By the way, it's 'prostate.'

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RE: Chasity? Over How long a period? - 6/2/2005 1:50:36 PM

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There have been tests whereby a direct correlation between male ejaculation of seminal fluid and prostate health exists. In fact, the study showed that males who masturbated and/or ejaculated frequently in their 20's significantly reduce the risks of prostate cancer, inflammation, and infections.

Is this the Australian study? I think it didn't show any correlation between ejaculation frequency and prostate disease for men 30 years or older.

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RE: Chasity? Over How long a period? - 6/4/2005 3:11:07 PM

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I thought I might add my own experience and research to this thread. I was placed in chastity over a period of roughly 5 months (over a year ago) but this was not everyday for reasons to follow below. Before it was initiated, I was required to do extensive research on health as well as which devices were the most effective.

What I learned is that most devices that are essentially a cock ring and tube are prone to needing cleaning about every 2 to 3 days. Lubrication to prevent chaffing and/or a rash is also very important. Everyone of them caused some form of discomfort from the ring chaffing or pinching behind the scrotum and all of them were not 100% tamper proof.

I did not research belts as this was not what my former Owner was interested in. The best devices found were made in Germany by Frank Gorecke. He is a wonderful person and is constantly making improvements to his product line. Buying one of his devices can be accomplished through PayPal and he does speak a little English but it's good to use an online translator site to convey your inquiries to him.

However, I later found another device called the "BuddyLock" which looks to me to be the best possible device. One thing that seems to be a necessity to prevent tampering is the inclusion of a PA piercing. Most devices are made to work with this. As far as health and damage is concerned, I never once read anything negative about long term chastity and read many reviews where the subject was in chastity for periods of 3 to 9 months.

Hope this is of use.

anthrosub

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RE: Chasity? Over How long a period? - 6/4/2005 7:55:34 PM

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I thought I might add my own experience and research to this thread. I was placed in chastity over a period of roughly 5 months

Were you completely chaste without milking/ejaculating during that time?
In your experience with chastity, has it made you desire intercourse less and has it affected your ability to become erect after the chastity period?
Very personal questions, but I guess I'd just like to know Yes/no, did chastity over time affect your performance?

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As far as health and damage is concerned, I never once read anything negative about long term chastity and read many reviews where the subject was in chastity for periods of 3 to 9 months.
anthrosub

Thank You very much for the info... While I like the idea of controlling a man this way, I don't think I would ever keep him chaste for months at a time; If I did lock his penis away for that long, chances are very good I'm detaching emotionally.. M

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RE: Chasity? Over How long a period? - 6/4/2005 8:39:34 PM

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I don't mind answering these questions. I think it can only serve to educate people about what to expect but I will quickly add that everyone's experience will be unique.

The effect of chastity on me was positive for my Owner. I was constantly aware of my condition, thinking of her, and felt much more sensual overall. When released (usually for brief periods every 7 to 10 days) I was very sensitive and essentially teased and tormented, cleaned, and locked back up. Sometimes I was milked just before being returned to chastity. She also would release me and order me to not touch unless instructed to add to the frustration (and her amusement) for days at a time only to be locked up again.

The reason for this was she didn't want chastity to become mundane and it gave a new dimension to the whole exercise of control. I've spoken to several experienced Dominants who made the good point that if a sub is locked up for too long, being excited becomes a memory and the sub acclimates to being chaste. In other words, they simply get used to it.

I thought I would add that I did read of one Domme (23 years old) who put her husband in chastity and intended to keep him that way permanently. At the time of the reading, he had been locked up for 15 months! She didn't explain how this was a benefit to her.

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RE: Chasity? Over How long a period? - 6/5/2005 12:56:25 AM

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I thought I would add that I did read of one Domme (23 years old) who put her husband in chastity and intended to keep him that way permanently. At the time of the reading, he had been locked up for 15 months! She didn't explain how this was a benefit to her.
anthrosub[/color]

Thanks for sharing your experience... As I understood your response, the chastity device did not negatively affect your performance.

...As for the 23yo who has a husband permanently chaste, I can't say I understand, but it is my opinion that any activity between informed consenting adults is okay with me no matter the outcome (bad idea in my opinion, but to each his own).. M

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RE: Chasity? Over How long a period? - 6/5/2005 3:41:08 AM

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Sorry for the delay in answering, any way here are some sites that offer the info I was refering to.

http://menshealth.about.com/cs/prostatehealth/a/ejaculate_ptate.htm
http://www.nswcc.org.au/editorial.asp?pageid=1188

Okay that is all I have for now, I am sure there are more that I have come across, however I can not find them:).

Thank you for the proper spelling, I am a horriable speller and the help is appreciated. :)

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RE: Chasity? Over How long a period? - 6/5/2005 11:17:12 AM

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http://menshealth.about.com/cs/prostatehealth/a/ejaculate_ptate.htm
http://www.nswcc.org.au/editorial.asp?pageid=1188

Okay that is all I have for now, I am sure there are more that I have come across, however I can not find them:).
Gem

Thanks for the links Gem... The articles indicate that they probably should be allowed to ejaculate more than once/month though as you suggest above... M

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