Aswad
Posts: 9374
Joined: 4/4/2007
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: TigerNINTails
This is precisely why I said more martial, [...]
Ah. Emphasizing "more" makes it a lot clearer. Thanks.
quote:
Although, I have to admit that grappling is very martial...
~nod~
quote:
But slaps just seem to be the lessor of the more devastating (outwardly towards damaging tissues) though they can be deadly applied correctly... Or incorrectly.
The latter is kind of my point in some of this.
People have less problem with face-slapping, it seems, than punching.
This despite punches being easier for an untrained person to aim and pull reasonably well.
And an untrained face slap will, as far as I know, generally cause some (light) trauma to the brain.
Repeat it often, or over much time, and I doubt it will be healthy.
Given proper use of the neck, however, even a headbutt can be mostly "defused".
But I did not get the impression that this was something people had trained.
I guess there is an ingrained perception of face-slaps as harmless.
Myself, I'd treat it as any other blow to the head: break the arm.
If it's harmful, then it's serious: I try to care well for my brain.
If not, it's still a physical attack.
I've never given anyone due cause to slap me, as far as I know.
quote:
I believe you did, but I think the reason I called your attention to it, was (at least to me) it seemed like your stance on that region was a little questioning, or wishywashy. Like an unsurety or something. I thought the way I brought it up might sound a little funny, I suppose I should have edited the approach...
Ah, sorry; I might have been clearer.
I don't want to seem like I'd like to interfere in her relationship.
If her Daddy thinks it makes for an acceptable risk, and she's okay with it, fine by me.
It hasn't been much of an issue for me, though.
Kidneys aren't that viable for rapid incapacitation, nor for restraint / warning.
Those are pretty much the only two modes of self-defense I have found myself wanting.
One for the "leave me alone" scenarios, one for the "it's me or you" scenarios.
Kidneys is neither here nor there, sort of.
quote:
I'm sure ( If you were as I think you were, training in most if not all traditional dojos) you'd have noticed an increase in knuckle circumference from training.
I have trained in a few dojos apart from the one I'm currently at.
The longest I stayed in any other than the one I'm in now, was Wado ryu.
Currently, I am training in one koryu dojo, unrelated to the ones I've done in the past.
I am not actively cross-training, but I have plenty of friends in various other styles, though.
But, yeah, most styles leave a distinct impression on the knuckles, etc.
In fact, in some cases you can tell the style up front by how the hands are.
Same thing with muscle distribution and body dynamics.
To take Karate, Shotokan and Wado ryu give quite different builds and dynamics.
For instance, the upper body mass is different, and I've noticed the instep tends to carry over.
quote:
But of course, I could be thinking of cartilege too, but I don't believe we have a lot of that on the upper portion of our knuckles. Feel free of course, correcting me if I'm wrong.
I'd have to ask someone with an anatomy textbook handy, or who knows it by heart.
If you'd like me to do so, drop me a PM to remind me.
I think the cartilage extends to the top.
quote:
And what does IIRC mean? I've seen you use it alot, but I'm at a loss for the definition.
"If I Recall Correctly".
Means I think I'm stating the best of my knowledge, but am not certain.
I.e.: "to the best of my recollection".
quote:
Yes, I agree... But that's also the point that I was making is that in an untrained sense, hand to hand in a BDSM environment is very dangerous... No more or less than using the implements we use in WIITWD.
~nod~
Skill without control would be worse, but I have only encountered that with boxing and kickboxing.
That is not to say those don't teach it, just that those are the only I've seen fail to do so, ever.
The human body can be surprisingly hardy, and surprisingly fragile.
It can also be surprisingly strong, even without the training.
The difference can be more than an order of magnitude, but the distinction is between a civilian discharging a single round from a light handgun, and military personell firing a three-round burst from an assault rifle. Sure, there's a difference, but it's pretty academic unless you're actually trying to hurt someone, or trying not to. Control is the first step, making sure that level of force is not brought to bear. Skill is the second step, again opening the door on more force by making it possible to use it in a way that is safe(r).
quote:
Going to watch, to see the dynamic, might raise enough interest to actually participate, to experience positive, to take it to a personal level and of course, do it safely, and then we wouldn't have so many people thinking that it's bad for the hand, but good for the crop...
~nod~
And it might do some good to compare with Arnis or somesuch, as well.
(I'll admit my knowledge of it is limited to talking with a Kali person.)
A cane is no toy.
It's a weapon.
Using it as a toy, however, is possible, just as for hand-to-hand.
The level of skill required is higher for a cane, though.
Realizing that hand-to-hand can be safe is one side of the equation.
Realizing that the tools we use are just as potentially dangerous is the other side of it.
_____________________________
"If God saw what any of us did that night, he didn't seem to mind.
From then on I knew: God doesn't make the world this way.
We do." -- Rorschack, Watchmen.
|
RE: Punching your sub/slave? - 
Profile
New Messages
No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages
Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages
Locked w/o New Messages
Post New Thread