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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/12/2007 10:19:21 PM   
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Sinergy, that's what *I* would do and have done.


popeye, I often hear people talking about motorcycle clubs doing such favors for people, but honestly, I've not really seen what you are talking about in real life and I've been closely associated with 1% clubs my whole life. Seriously, look up the number to the clubhouse and tell them you have a problem and need them to send some guys out and take care of it for you....yeah, I'm sure they'd get right on it. After they recovered from the hysterical laughter maybe. On the off chance though, that you really have gotten some Hell's Angels to do such favors for you, the fact that you are on a public message board talking about it suggests that you must have shit for brains.



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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/12/2007 10:36:56 PM   
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The next person that suggests violating the law as a solution to this problem will be taking an unexpected vacation.  That sort of nonsense has absolutely no place here.

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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/12/2007 10:51:42 PM   
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Mistoferin, it didn't happen like that.
If I were in a club I'd laugh a stranger out the door too.
How do you know he's not a cop?
And that's all I'll say about that.

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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/12/2007 10:52:29 PM   
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Hello again

If you're running a computer on a Windows type system software, have you thought about running a Live Linux CD system from your CD ROM on top of your existing system? You get a complete system of software (including an equivalent of Windows, Internet browsers, IM Messenger programs, firewalls, etc) which can be downloaded and burned onto a CD-R.

It might be a solution - not the best one (and I leave myself completely open here for correction or additional comment as I'm self-taught and not an IT expert) but it might help. A lot of viruses, spyware, etc which can get through an Internet connection and into a Windows system doesn't get into a Linux system.

The ones I've used and recommend (and which are user-friendly) are:

Overclockix
http://www.overclockix.octeams.com/

Knoppix
http://www.knoppix.de/

Perhaps you or someone you know can download and burn a CD which you insert into your CD ROM when you switch on and start up your computer. It will (usually) automatically find all your hardware and you can use it the same as you do your current system.

Have you tried any organisations such as those who protect women against domestic violence? While it may not be DV I'm sure they would be sympathetic and might be able to provide support or some suggestions as to where to go or what to do. You probably have already tried this, but I don't know.

Fingers crossed and praying for your ordeal to end.

S.

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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/12/2007 11:04:11 PM   
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Maybe others have mentionned it:  He got into your computer, and from there into others.  From there, he could have figured out your friends, and when youset up a new account, find out who they all just added, which would be you.

Not sure, but maybe?

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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/12/2007 11:08:56 PM   
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Lockit, I would suggest going in person to a local computer specialist (not Circuit City or Best Buy kind of places) and having them help you set up the necessary precautions.

Police departments now have people in them who are dedicated to investigating internet crimes. You need to talk to a detective who specializes in that area....again, not Circuit City.

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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/12/2007 11:23:05 PM   
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Hello once again...

Hardware solutions always prevail over software solutions when it comes to anti intrusion efforts.

In response to your question can he create a hidden network that sends the information to him... it would have to be a network that you are on. Secondly he would have to track you as a user and/or a group member on that network to be able to start getting information from your activities. Networks are becoming increasingly more common than people think, the question is whether or not he has an actual rack mounted server system to stalk you with, or using a corporate system that he services or maintains (the second is more likely than the first). Well I would have to say he would have to be the only one or one of the few dealing with the logs that are generated by the traffic, because of the nature of the facilities these networks would fall into (Medical facilities and Businesses) their data is uber important to them and would be constantly backed up. if it can be proven that hes using these systems to assault people's freedoms and privacy it would not go well for him.

What it sounds like (See DomKen's entry) is that he got the keylogger, or an application that takes your windows password list and sends it on to him.

A good antivirus program thats free is grisofts avg  (http://free.grisoft.com/doc/download-free-anti-virus/us/frt/0)
as you see theres also their paid apps, I havent had experience with the paid versions but the free version is what I use and I have yet to deal with an infection. Mind you some of that comes from careful browsing habits and refusing to click/ respond to unknown email or go to sites that are sent to me by unknown or suspicious individuals.
(And it auto updates if you have a persistent connections at a set time and does daily scans.) I have heard decent things about NOD32 (An antivirus program made by a russian who knows his stuff) http://www.eset.com/download/index.php you just register and try it free for 30 days.

As for antimalware programs. theres a whole bevy of them at major geeks http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html

The msn issue is unfortunate but there maybe something in your registry (a key=>value pair) that would give him some control... a good registry cleaner would take care of that ... and I have always had good results from registry mechanic http://www.pctools.com/registry-mechanic/?ref=mg_rm

But the windows xp locator code you were talking about made me curious enough to go find information on it and this is what I found
quote
The Microsoft Locator service is a name service that maps logical names to network-specific names. It ships with Windows NT 4.0, Windows 2000, and Windows XP. By default, the Locator service is enabled only on Windows 2000 domain controllers and Windows NT 4.0 domain controllers; it is not enabled on Windows NT 4.0 workstations or member servers, Windows 2000 workstations or member servers, or Windows XP.
A security vulnerability results from an unchecked buffer in the Locator service. By sending a specially malformed request to the Locator service, an attacker could cause the Locator service to fail, or to run code of the attacker's choice on the system.
end quote

to check this you would go into your control panel and then if your in classic view go to administrative tools and then services to see if the service is turned on.
you are looking for a service called Remote Procedure Call (RPC) Locator
by default it should not be turned on (setting should say manual). if its on turn it off by right clicking on the service for the menu and then selecting properties. set the
startup type to manual and that blocks that method, you could disable it instead, but dont quote me on disabling it.
there is a patch from microsoft that supposedly takes care of this problem
Windows XP 32bit http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=DF24197E-6217-4ABD-A244-0A53320B2813&displaylang=en

it uses the RpcNsBindingExportPnP function primarily which looks at the following key values in your registry to execute HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Rpc\NameService\DefaultSyntax
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Rpc\NameService\DefaultEntry To check for this use your regedit.exe (it can be found in your windows folder it looks like a blue rubiks cube falling apart)You will see the values seperated into five different settings but one is local machine with the subfolders software then microsoft etc...  Finally get a router that logs all activity...http://www.eprom.com/home/SMC/7004vbr.htm this would be an ideal solution as it logs everything including hack attacks once you log his assault its really game over for him... enough said.   

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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/12/2007 11:25:59 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250
Sinergy, that's what *I* would do and have done.


popeye, I often hear people talking about motorcycle clubs doing such favors for people, but honestly, I've not really seen what you are talking about in real life and I've been closely associated with 1% clubs my whole life. Seriously, look up the number to the clubhouse and tell them you have a problem and need them to send some guys out and take care of it for you....yeah, I'm sure they'd get right on it. After they recovered from the hysterical laughter maybe. On the off chance though, that you really have gotten some Hell's Angels to do such favors for you, the fact that you are on a public message board talking about it suggests that you must have shit for brains.





LOL, Misto, of course you haven't seen it, that would make you a *WITNESS* wouldn't it?

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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/12/2007 11:35:19 PM   
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MISTO???

You do realize that her name is mistoferin, as in Mist of Erin, right?

That's Erin as in like Erin Go Braless.

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LOL, Misto, of course you haven't seen it, that would make you a *WITNESS* wouldn't it?

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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/12/2007 11:41:45 PM   
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Erin Go Braless.


Is that a direct order Sir?...lol. (why thank you, I think I will)

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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/13/2007 12:09:29 AM   
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I have found gaping chest wounds (applied by whatever the legal standard in your state is) to be highly effective and quite satisfying.

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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/13/2007 12:12:02 AM   
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I have found gaping chest wounds (applied by whatever the legal standard in your state is) to be highly effective and quite satisfying.


I guess you missed the Admin's message?......

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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/13/2007 12:30:45 AM   
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Less than 10 messages later, and at that.

I'll echo the "Live Linux" cd/dvd/USB sentiment.

Those who really care about computer security don't bother wasting their time playing the pointless game of TRYING to get Windows tight enough.

Now, billing others for time wasted playing the pointless game of TRYING to get WIndows tight enough?

No. Actually, I sell them a RHEL box from Dell, and set it up as their PDC, storing their roaming profiles ( and outlook psts ) in their home directories, and then doing a nightly backup/bit-level-verify of the server. THEN when the Window box gets nailed, we just reload it from the stored image on the ftp server, and and once they login, there's all their shit.



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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/13/2007 5:43:34 AM   
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I am amazed at the level of paranoia in the BDSM community reflected in this conversation.

One person presents a paranoid fantasy of almost classical style, of a nefarious hacker of inhuman brilliance discovering a bug in software, and then using it to stalk her in various ways.

The rest of the community buys into it.

When I challenged her fantasy, Lockit responded with more fantasy and imagination.

Why, I asked, would somebody who discovered a bug worth millions and millions and millions of dollars decide to stalk her instead of robbing banks.

Lockit responded "maybe he doesn't need money... maybe he needs a lil slave girl with the right body parts, that comes in an intelligent package and he's a sick puck..."

But this is simply the invention of a new reality to support the old paranoid reality. In the entire history of the world, has there ever been a case where some multimillionaire with a hankering for a slave didn't simply pay to have the slave kidnapped? Look at Lookit's fantasy: he doesn't need the money that the brilliant hack would give him; he wants a slave; he doesn't use his money to kidnap the slave; he uses the multimillion dollar bug to harass somebody online. Again I say it is pure paranoid fantasy, supporting itself with newly invented fantasies of the genius wealthy hacker too stupid and poor to simply buy a kidnapping.

Then almost everybody else in the BDSM community interested enough in the topic buys into it, rushing to help the poor stalker victim and punish the big bad monster under the bed.

Petronius

PS: Actually, another person suggested the core problem may not be paranoia but a narcissist out for attention and using paranoia to get it. That may well be true but doesn't contradict the paranoid actions.


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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/13/2007 7:19:11 AM   
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i never said he was right....i just said two wrongs never make a right....and violence is not always the answer to the problem. someone breaking into your house is alot different than someone harrassing you online. its one thing to defend your home and family as in the case of someone breaking in...and another thing to "plot" the demise or intentioal affliction of pain on someone.


ljcatt, I'd have to disagree with you there.
I've seen the application of extreme violence render the toughest worst bastards a former shell of themselves after years of restraining orders, court and police complaints did absolutely nothing.
The trick is that it has to be severe and brutal enough to be life-changing and there has to be permanent impairment to remind them everyday.
It not only attacks them physically but more importantly emotionally, spiritually and psychologically. You "break" them.
And that's the effect that you're looking for, that they'll never do anything that would put themselves in that position again.
I've only done it to one person but it worked 100% after years of that person terrorising women and getting away with it thanks to the cops and courts.
I'm not a violent person at all but when faced with a criminally insane person who specialises in terrorising women and their new boyfriends  (me) I didn't hesitate to go after him.


well its good that it worked for you in that situation...but there are some people stupid enough that even after that sorta experience they would still come back for more...trust me i know...cuz i know people who have almost died countless times...and some who even technically died....as results of there actions....and they still doing the same shit. and like i said....beating up and shooting someone who came into your home is alot different than planning to do so to a person...thats why there are different degrees of assult and murder charges

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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/13/2007 8:59:38 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Petronius

I am amazed at the level of paranoia in the BDSM community reflected in this conversation.

One person presents a paranoid fantasy of almost classical style, of a nefarious hacker of inhuman brilliance discovering a bug in software, and then using it to stalk her in various ways.

The rest of the community buys into it.

When I challenged her fantasy, Lockit responded with more fantasy and imagination.

Why, I asked, would somebody who discovered a bug worth millions and millions and millions of dollars decide to stalk her instead of robbing banks.

Lockit responded "maybe he doesn't need money... maybe he needs a lil slave girl with the right body parts, that comes in an intelligent package and he's a sick puck..."

But this is simply the invention of a new reality to support the old paranoid reality. In the entire history of the world, has there ever been a case where some multimillionaire with a hankering for a slave didn't simply pay to have the slave kidnapped? Look at Lookit's fantasy: he doesn't need the money that the brilliant hack would give him; he wants a slave; he doesn't use his money to kidnap the slave; he uses the multimillion dollar bug to harass somebody online. Again I say it is pure paranoid fantasy, supporting itself with newly invented fantasies of the genius wealthy hacker too stupid and poor to simply buy a kidnapping.

Then almost everybody else in the BDSM community interested enough in the topic buys into it, rushing to help the poor stalker victim and punish the big bad monster under the bed.

Petronius

PS: Actually, another person suggested the core problem may not be paranoia but a narcissist out for attention and using paranoia to get it. That may well be true but doesn't contradict the paranoid actions.




Well looking at the overall situation there is one of several possibilities going on here.

1.) she is doing exactly what you say she is doing.... well thats really unfortunate but that situation does come up from time to time. the advice I gave is good for anyone to check and ensure that they have made secure anything they can. With the number of people out there that like to perform random assaults of a malicious nature its just good practice.

2.) You as a person can not believe that a situation can exist like this. Somehow I dont think that you are this closeminded.

3.) You are the person harrassing / stalking her, again this seems far fetched but in this age of information, many people can develop the skills necessary to do this kind of thing.

4.) The situation she states is happening, and you as a very suspicious minded individual want to see some concrete proof of his (The Stalker) activity.



The only thing that can be done here in all honesty when the pros and cons are weighed are to give her the best advice for her situation and let the chips fall where they may. My first question to you would be "Have you ever been stalked?" I and several of the people I know have been at one time or another and I can say without doubt it is a haunting experience and one main objectives of the stalker is to force the individuals state of mind to become as unbalanced as possible while maintaining a state of innocence so to speak.

The individual in question may not have used the exploit in question against a corporation where money would be the objective because most companys hire technical savvy guys to ensure that exploits like this DO NOT happen.

Increasingly the hacks and attacks of this nature are perpertrated on the home user than any business's computer network. (Many people keep their business records on personal home machines and this is why that is happening)

Anyways that was my two cents.

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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/13/2007 9:19:10 AM   
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OK- i have met the most destructive people online- as well as the person of the year type.

if i may  say so- the OP has already said too much.

would it be any different for a pretty girl to stand around at a state park???   no. there are still creaps.

i been around computers since commadore 64 days.

YOU HAVE DISCLOSED TOO MUCH HERE!

i had a stalker on me bigtime. cost me- plenty.   google your screen names- youll gasp at what comes up!

dump your computer. stay offline a year.

update your home security. i for one wont rely 100% on the police.

if you take the bate- the stalker gets satisfaction.

dump your computer. dump your server.  the police will do nothing.

hun, i been thru stuff i cant post on a public board.  walk away.  the screwball puff- does not exist. it is a mindfcck.

unplug.  strengthen real life relationsships with people u previosly know and trust.

the stalker gets off on your response- you feed the fire this way. poof- take an axe to your computer and be offline a year.


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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/13/2007 9:28:28 AM   
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ljcatt, I do agree with you to a certain extent.
But, look at how many women are killed or maimed every year by stalkers. Men too.
I'm just more "pro-active" than you in that area.
I don't think someone should just sit around and wait till a stalker gets angry enough to kill them.
In my case the guy would be arrested for 5 days  and get out angrier than before.
He had a long history behind him. Restraining orders are only effective for sane people. Jail had no affect on him.
When someone's had 15 or 20 restraining orders out on them in 10 years by numerous people what do you do, take out another one? Like it's going to do any good? And the cops just take them and file them with the other 6,000 restraining orders that they have.
These days they go to jail for the weekend if you're lucky with the overcrowding in jails.
In case you hadn't noticed the legal system is broken.
I'm a big advocate of firearms for women.

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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/13/2007 9:52:57 AM   
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I don't know anything about a "windows locator", but I do know that there is such a thing as "social engineering". Most of these guys are mostly bullshit, in other words. You should be *very* skeptical of everything he has told you since he is clearly a deeply invested control freak. One can find your location from your ip. Anyone can. There is nothing really special about it. You can't get names and phone, but your town? Sure. Then he could use such to scare the living daylights out of you and get a kick about it.

Basic internet safety advice: run a firewall or use a router, keep your installation of windows updated, keep a good antivirus software with a real time scan (and keep it updated!) never run strange executables. People should not be online if they can't do those things.

Go to "My Computer" > Tools > Folder Options > now uncheck "hide extensions for know file types" Now you can see what's an exe and what's a photo, for example. An exe is executable instructions to your machine and it runs with admin permissions in Windows. Don't run an exe that you do not know that you can trust.

As for cleaning up trojans, if, indeed, one does exist.... The simplest way is to just reinstall XP and select the option to format before doing so. Your install disk of XP will be fine. You don't need to go out and get another as someone suggested. He can't have corrupted your CD :).

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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/13/2007 10:47:18 AM   
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My best guess- is no one on this board can outwit the best hackers.

if you are on the internet. you are public.  case in point- the pentagon breach. [which not an isolated incident]

you cant outwit a true hacker.

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