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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/8/2007 12:44:44 AM   
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HOLY FUCKY A DUCKY!  Did some no count sob utter the word jew again?   How dare them utter the word jew without praise from on high!  There oughta be a law!

So lam are you really going to tell me that ww2 was NOT funded by "bankers"?

and how can that be racism when kitt claims jews are not a race? 





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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

You mean it was American Jews, not Martian Jews?

How unhappy someone must be to turn a BDSM discussion forum into a platform for his racist crap.  Did your mother fail to show you enough love when you were a kid?

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Ah, those brown shirts. Those brown shirts that were financed by Jews and that were bought with Jewish money. You think that I am a nazi? Whatever gave you that erroneous impression?
You think that the Germans were nazi's and committed genocide on the Jews? You truly are ignorant. The holocaust was financed with Jewish - mostly American - money. That is a proven fact. It wasn't that German puppet that was given all the blame that was responsible. The holocaust was in large part financed by rich, evil Jews sitting on the benches in the synagogue and secretly feeling the desire to murder their relatives sitting on the poor benches. That is the fruit of circumcision: evil become incarnate. (It is incarnate in non-circumcised populations also, but presumably at a lower frequency - I guess.)



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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/8/2007 1:20:53 AM   
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Lucern: Does that whacking long post above include.......
Its OK to define race using social/physical/cultural /intellectual  markers ?
Not really sure, my eyes glazed over and my mind boggled lol

As for my supposed racially abusive comments identified by Zensee; I think my reference to "you sensitive souls" is apposite.

It seems to me that those who know that current scientific knowledge cannot clearly identify any differences across racial divides when humans are viewed at the micro level become "confused" and fail to recognise those differences that are starkly visible at the macro level.


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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/8/2007 1:21:18 AM   
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As for Ps53. I blocked your posts last week and I had reason to. That is not likely to change.
 


Firstly, if you had blocked me you would not have seen my post hmmmm ?

Secondly, i stand by my post on the 911/hoax thread which was as follows .

"The sad part about this conspiracy theory is it insults those that died, as well as the hundreds more that will die from lung diseases ect caused by the debri.

It also makes people less aware that there may well be another attack on the USA. Not to the same degree but maybe along the lines of the train attacks in London or the Bali bombings."

Now you best block everyone who disagrees with your stupidity across the boards. That way you can stay in your own little world.

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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/8/2007 1:57:27 AM   
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Secondly, i stand by my post on the 911/hoax thread which was as follows .

"The sad part about this conspiracy theory is it insults those that died, as well as the hundreds more that will die from lung diseases ect caused by the debri.

It also makes people less aware that there may well be another attack on the USA. Not to the same degree but maybe along the lines of the train attacks in London or the Bali bombings."



Now this deserves a bowl of popcorn.

I cant wait to hear how a conspiracy theory insults dead people?

You must be really pissed at the government then because they claimed there were 19 conspirators!

If anything the conspiracy theories of the public bring awareness to the subjuct and your desire to sweep it all under the carpet helps people fall asleep and forget about the fact we may be attacked again.  that is called double-think by the way.


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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/8/2007 2:10:53 AM   
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Fine, 'bring your bazongers with you; will they cope on god's clean earth without them?
 
 


Yeah, they'll cope - but it will be a terrible blow to mankind...
 
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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/8/2007 2:18:44 AM   
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Sorry for getting off topic.

Realone, yes i guess i should clarify my thinking here. i work in construction and agree both towers fell way to easily, considering how an inner core is constructed. You use the word conspirators, yet the hoax thread suggested that the conspirators were within the US Administration. Do you really think that something like that could be carried out, with so many people needing to be involved.

There were certainly cock ups from start to finish. The highjackers were already on the intelligence service radar. One of the flight schools had reported strange students. The Fireman had been complaining of poor communications equipement for ten years or so. The evacuation was a shambles ect ect. The towers fell too quickly. The Pentagon damage looked minimal, considering a plane had hit it at 500 mph.

All of the above doesn`t mean there was a plan by the US to murder its own people. So yes, i stand by what i said. I never stated a desire to sweep it under the carpet.

Thanks for posting the 911 links by the way, far from being closed minded i have already looked at the first few in the order you suggested.

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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/8/2007 2:35:02 AM   
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So I've been offline for two days and what happens to this thread when I come back!?  9/11 conspiracies and rampant anti-semetism!?

Fuck this, I'm out.

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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/8/2007 3:02:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BlueCollar

So I've been offline for two days and what happens to this thread when I come back!?  9/11 conspiracies and rampant anti-semetism!?

Fuck this, I'm out.



whats antisemetic to you?  the mere mention?   It seems to me the definition of anti semitic would require some clear expression of hatred.  did i miss something?  I did not see any expressions of hated so what exactly is rampant?

It seems there are certain people who rather than address a point simply pull race cards to create as much drama and hyperbole as possible to avoid the subject as if the whole world should now come to a screeching halt and not utter those words which amounts to talk about anything but people.

So that will scratch a lot of topics off the talk list which means we cannot talk about the nazis, or the japs in world war 2 or the brits and the bostonn tea party, or even the americans and and their imperialism, hell forget discussing the good bad and indifferent of the romans or greeks and on and on.

Oh but its fine to talk about every one else isnt it?  i dont heare anyone whining about anti-jap or anti german or anibrit.  no no

the same people who talk about all the above are the first to scream antisemitism or racist if the sacred word jew is mentioned.   Its like fucking spare me. 

Thats as ignorant as talking about catholic priests being pediphiles and being called anti catholic LOL

The most persecuted anti of them all is the satanist crowd, even the jewish culture practice anti-satanism LOL

There is a HUGE difference between discussing making points and hatred, unfortunately supposedly educated people often turn to drama when conversations get close to home and proclaim themselves as victims when no hatred is displayed.  

there is a word  err what is it   hypocrite comes to mind.

Do you have any idea how many comments could be construed as anti-r1inism?

i was up for marriage to a jewish gal and they even call me a racist LMAO



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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/8/2007 3:05:00 AM   
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quote:

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Sorry for getting off topic.

Realone, yes i guess i should clarify my thinking here. i work in construction and agree both towers fell way to easily, considering how an inner core is constructed. You use the word conspirators, yet the hoax thread suggested that the conspirators were within the US Administration. Do you really think that something like that could be carried out, with so many people needing to be involved.

There were certainly cock ups from start to finish. The highjackers were already on the intelligence service radar. One of the flight schools had reported strange students. The Fireman had been complaining of poor communications equipement for ten years or so. The evacuation was a shambles ect ect. The towers fell too quickly. The Pentagon damage looked minimal, considering a plane had hit it at 500 mph.

All of the above doesn`t mean there was a plan by the US to murder its own people. So yes, i stand by what i said. I never stated a desire to sweep it under the carpet.

Thanks for posting the 911 links by the way, far from being closed minded i have already looked at the first few in the order you suggested.


i will look up the hoax thread and respond to it there later today


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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/8/2007 3:55:01 AM   
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quote:

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whats antisemetic to you?  the mere mention?   It seems to me the definition of anti semitic would require some clear expression of hatred.  did i miss something?  I did not see any expressions of hated so what exactly is rampant?


You're right actually, I might have jumped the gun on this.  I just saw a few threads BUT as the internet has shown us historically, often discussions of this nature quickly decelerate into pointless conflict.

But am I at least right on the 9/11 conspiracy part?

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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/8/2007 3:59:18 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BlueCollar

quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne
whats antisemetic to you?  the mere mention?   It seems to me the definition of anti semitic would require some clear expression of hatred.  did i miss something?  I did not see any expressions of hated so what exactly is rampant?


You're right actually, I might have jumped the gun on this.  I just saw a few threads BUT as the internet has shown us historically, often discussions of this nature quickly decelerate into pointless conflict.

But am I at least right on the 9/11 conspiracy part?



that is why i said i would look up the thread and respond to it there :)


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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/8/2007 4:56:39 AM   
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...In this light, seemingly natural division of what people look like pales in comparison to the machinations of colonial power and modern politics. 

That diversion was to demonstrate how one might understand race as socially constructed - in full recognition of the physical science, but more importantly, in pursuing the meaning inherent in racial terms, from their origins to their most predatory social roles.  There has been some talk of whether or not to use the term race.  I say use it in full understanding of what it is, what it was, what it isn't, and what it can be made to do. 


Thanks for going into greater depth.

Had I realized that the OP was just trolling for a high response count, I wouldn't have brought up the social sciences or medical research, but there are obviously folks out there who are falling for the notion that any discipline which employs the concept of race is unscientific, so thanks for the rational assessment in rebuttal.

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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/8/2007 6:08:17 AM   
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Fast reply: I have blocked the posts of 18 people so far, but none of them because they disagree with my posts, Ps53. Neither have I ever said that I block people that disagree with my posts, so where did you get that erroneous idea?

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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/8/2007 6:48:26 AM   
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"As for Ps53. I blocked your posts last week and I had reason to. That is not likely to change."

Rule, these are your words above, from this thread. Since i wasn`t rude to you last week, and as far as i recall, i didnt even quote you, then i dont know why you blocked me, unless my views disagreed with yours.

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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/8/2007 7:06:23 AM   
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i was up for marriage to a jewish gal and they even call me a racist LMAO



You must have been pretty fucking desperate.

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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/8/2007 7:09:16 AM   
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...In this light, seemingly natural division of what people look like pales in comparison to the machinations of colonial power and modern politics. 

That diversion was to demonstrate how one might understand race as socially constructed - in full recognition of the physical science, but more importantly, in pursuing the meaning inherent in racial terms, from their origins to their most predatory social roles.  There has been some talk of whether or not to use the term race.  I say use it in full understanding of what it is, what it was, what it isn't, and what it can be made to do. 


Thanks for going into greater depth.

Had I realized that the OP was just trolling for a high response count, I wouldn't have brought up the social sciences or medical research, but there are obviously folks out there who are falling for the notion that any discipline which employs the concept of race is unscientific, so thanks for the rational assessment in rebuttal.


Tell me, Al, how heavy's that chip on your shoulder? Is it the reason you're feeling so put upon? You obviously feel you're not taken seriously enough and your feelings are validated in my eyes. I'm just trying to understand where the sorrow and bitterness come from. If you feel like opening up further to us, perhaps we can all get together as a group and start working on your emotional recovery.

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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/8/2007 7:11:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Sorry for getting off topic.

Realone, yes i guess i should clarify my thinking here. i work in construction and agree both towers fell way to easily, considering how an inner core is constructed. You use the word conspirators, yet the hoax thread suggested that the conspirators were within the US Administration. Do you really think that something like that could be carried out, with so many people needing to be involved.

There were certainly cock ups from start to finish. The highjackers were already on the intelligence service radar. One of the flight schools had reported strange students. The Fireman had been complaining of poor communications equipement for ten years or so. The evacuation was a shambles ect ect. The towers fell too quickly. The Pentagon damage looked minimal, considering a plane had hit it at 500 mph.

All of the above doesn`t mean there was a plan by the US to murder its own people. So yes, i stand by what i said. I never stated a desire to sweep it under the carpet.

Thanks for posting the 911 links by the way, far from being closed minded i have already looked at the first few in the order you suggested.


Politesub53:
You mention that your background in construction leads you to consider that the buildings "fell way too fast".  If you couple those considerations with the historical lack of regard that the U.S. government has had for American life when it wished to insinuate itself into a conflict it is not too difficult to consider that the U.S. government may have aided and abetted the destruction that occurred on 9/11.
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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/8/2007 7:15:28 AM   
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Just a silly question to those who know about these things...
It is claimed that the similarity of the genotype across the racial divide in man  in fact makes the existence of that divide meaningless and hence all humans are the same race.

Evolutionists claim a new species comes into existence when on offshoot from an existing species appears that cannot interbreed with the antecedents even though the offshoot   may be "genotypically" almost identical.

Is this an example of rigorous scientific classification or have different methods of division been selected for amongst other things socio-political reasons ?
One other possibily I admit is that this doesn't happen and my premise is wrong. Shudder shudder. splutter splutter

Just to add that I have a special place in my heart for Aboriginal grub eaters who did so well over the millenia in raising standards in Australia. I notice an exponential improvement  in conditions in OZ over the last couple of hundred years or so . I definitley intend to try and find out the cause of such changes.
Anybody any ideas ? I am willing to offer use of my boomerang if anyone can help me out or lessons on the didgerdoo if you prefer.

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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/8/2007 7:23:09 AM   
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Tell me, Al, how heavy's that chip on your shoulder? Is it the reason you're feeling so put upon? You obviously feel you're not taken seriously enough and your feelings are validated in my eyes. I'm just trying to understand where the sorrow and bitterness come from. If you feel like opening up further to us, perhaps we can all get together as a group and start working on your emotional recovery.



I just wonder why the simple act of posting a link to facts, upsets you so much that you have to resort to the childish personal responses?

If you have a point, you certainly haven't bothered to make it.

You are simply lying when you say that you asked how to end xenophobia in the OP.

If you were just ranting against medical research, sociology, etc. then spit it out, and say so.

If it amuses you to indulge in circular reasoning, argumentem ad hominem, and other sophomoric logical fallacies in order to 'win' an imaginary argument, congratulations... you are now in possession of the same skill set as high school debate club members, tinfoil hat conspiracy theorists, and squirrels in cages. 

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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/8/2007 7:27:28 AM   
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Politesub53:
You mention that your background in construction leads you to consider that the buildings "fell way too fast".  If you couple those considerations with the historical lack of regard that the U.S. government has had for American life when it wished to insinuate itself into a conflict it is not too difficult to consider that the U.S. government may have aided and abetted the destruction that occurred on 9/11.
thompson


Thompson, i really think there is a difference between a government getting into a war, with the obvious loss of life to follow, and a government setting out to murder thousands of its people by creating something such as 9/11

Consider even the logisitics of such an action. You would need to be sure that no one who had anything to do with the conspiracy had a change of heart, or even uttered a word to any body.
The truth about the weapons of mass destruction came out quickly enough. As the saying goes " The truth will out "


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