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RE: Fisting - 11/2/2006 1:50:23 AM   
Hercuckslave


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two in the bird is worth a hand in the bush....or something like that.

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RE: Fisting - 11/2/2006 2:49:55 AM   
mons


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greetings

i think this practice is dangerous to me it is something to have a strap with a slave or even anal sex with a female , but taking ones fist and it is a man is i think a hard limit for me. if i have a submissive who ask me to do this i would say no there is such a thing as even when someone use a penis there is damgae that can be gone but with a fist and many man have large hands this will damage tissue not only that that area is not to have things anyway so use ones fist to push it up into that area up to the wrist is scary. this is going in the small intestines whcih is something only a doctor should do with a samll camera.

so my is why indanger you slave with this practice how is this person after can the move well how is it when they go to the bathroom this is one of my hard limits but if some would like to explain to me how they think this is an ok thing to do i will welcome your answer take i have judge anyone this is my opinion

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RE: Fisting - 11/2/2006 11:51:52 AM   
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There is only damage if the person doing it doesn't take care and be patient. Basically if it doesn't fit don't force it

I was positive it would never work on me and was proved wrong. gloves and lots of lube really helped. I was quite shocked.

With anything a little touchy care and patience is the key to success. Some people's skin and tissues stretch better then others. So for some it just will not work at all and others will be quite accomadating.

It really helps if you can be kept aroused the whole time. There are instances of discomfort but tell your partner immediately so that they can pull back and do more prep work. Communication like in everything else is extremely important.
Also where a female is in cycle will have some bearing on sucess as well. Comfort levels, etc.

I do have a hard limit against anal fisting. but tissues there tend to tear alot easier and well the hygene factor and sphincter stretching issues are just too numerous for me.

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RE: Fisting - 11/2/2006 11:57:10 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aileen68

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ORIGINAL: Powerman40

strong yet delicate, soft manly hands


Now isn't that an oxymoron?


It was.. Nods lots.
It was meant to get your attention. *S*

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RE: Fisting - 11/2/2006 5:57:02 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Powerman40

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aileen68

quote:

ORIGINAL: Powerman40

strong yet delicate, soft manly hands


Now isn't that an oxymoron?


It was.. Nods lots.
It was meant to get your attention. *S*


*giggles...  thinking about Seinfeld and Man Hands who could crack open a loster by herself*

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RE: Fisting - 11/2/2006 6:02:33 PM   
Powerman40


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Daddysredhead

quote:

ORIGINAL: Powerman40

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aileen68

quote:

ORIGINAL: Powerman40

strong yet delicate, soft manly hands


Now isn't that an oxymoron?


It was.. Nods lots.
It was meant to get your attention. *S*


*giggles...  thinking about Seinfeld and Man Hands who could crack open a loster by herself*

I have a co-worker (female) who could have / should have played that part. Thats why I describe mine as such. Now that would be an impossible Fisting.. Shudders at that thought....

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RE: Fisting - 11/2/2006 6:06:27 PM   
Daddysredhead


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Powerman40

quote:

ORIGINAL: Daddysredhead

quote:

ORIGINAL: Powerman40

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aileen68

quote:

ORIGINAL: Powerman40

strong yet delicate, soft manly hands


Now isn't that an oxymoron?


It was.. Nods lots.
It was meant to get your attention. *S*


*giggles...  thinking about Seinfeld and Man Hands who could crack open a loster by herself*

I have a co-worker (female) who could have / should have played that part. Thats why I describe mine as such. Now that would be an impossible Fisting.. Shudders at that thought....


   *crosses legs tightly*

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RE: Fisting - 11/4/2006 10:18:54 AM   
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A Hand in the Bush is a fabulous resource.  I was stunned when my Love bought it actually.  I have always wanted to be fisted, which he knew.  One of those things I never tried when I was still dating (women, usually).  I came close to being the fister, but my gf was rather tight and we couldn't get past the knuckle of the thumb.  Since owning the book, my Love and I haven't gotten very far, because his hands are so big and he is afraid he will hurt me.  We are going slowly at first and I'm hoping that eventually I can take him in.  It certainly is delicious to try. 

As for episiotomes, I'm told that the body's natural tearing actually heals far better than a cut and sometimes doctor's do them unnecessarily.  If that happens, you weaken the walls and are more likely to tear in subsequent births, (or presumably fisting)  Does anyone know if that is accurate?

fp2012, I had the same experience.  My hand is at the wrong angle, but it's fun to try.

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< Message edited by beltainefaerie -- 11/4/2006 10:22:20 AM >

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RE: Fisting - 11/5/2006 2:43:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: beltainefaerie

As for episiotomes, I'm told that the body's natural tearing actually heals far better than a cut and sometimes doctor's do them unnecessarily.  If that happens, you weaken the walls and are more likely to tear in subsequent births, (or presumably fisting)  Does anyone know if that is accurate?



Actually, I have heard the exact opposite from both birthing teams when my kids were born and my best friend who has been a labor and delivery nurse for many years.  Even my sister-in-law, who is a midwife, agrees that some natural tears can be horrible in getting to heal, in comparison to the clean cut of an episiotomy.

I was very fortunate in that I didn't need an episiotomy with either birth.  Very careful passive pushing helped, so it was very controlled and no tearing and no cuts were necessary.

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RE: Fisting - 11/5/2006 4:14:47 PM   
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I have a question. When being fisted does he actually place his entire fist inside you , as deep as the wrist or is it more like just part of his hand? I'm very curious as I do not want to get torn. Thank you
This ended up being longwinded, ... but answers everything i can remember wanting to ask and know, prior to my first fisting.


i'm quite petite (naturally, no diets no eating disorders, no illness... perfectly good health etc) at 5'3" and 95 pounds (my high weight, my highest, outside of during pregnancy, being 102) i've given birth twice. First born weighed 9 pounds, second weighed 8. First involved a standard 'routine' episiotomy. The second was sans the episotomy (for those who inquired, the debate is never ending and not proven as far as tearing and episiotomy vs healing time/ease of repair etc), and a vaginal breech ... no stitches, minimal tearing (very minor tear to the minor labia, required no stitches, way up near my clitoris ... no idea why, even my midwife was perplexed on that), no damage, etc.

For those who may be concerned with fisting while having an IUD in place (i WAS and couldn't find anything on the subject back then prior to my first fisting), i have one (the 10 year copperT). He's always aware of having to be careful to not hit the cervix with excessive force or apply excessive pressure. The definition of 'excessive' will vary from one person to the next. Find your own level of tolerance by applying common sense: If you have an IUD and it hurts, then it's probably wise to say that it's too hard, too deep, too much force, etc.

i've been fisted both ways. i've been fisted by the large hands of a Male as well as the more petite hands of a female. By either, the entire hand was involved, sometimes to the wrist, sometimes almost halfway to the elbow(dependant upon the position i am in). i've fisted other females, as well.

The first for me went as follows: i was extremely wet and very aroused and in a position similar to that assumed for 'doggy style', but with my shoulders and chest flat against the bed, face turned to one side (most of the time, except for when i pressed my face into the sheets to muffle my own groans, moans and shrieks). He inserted four fingers with His thumb tucked into His palm with a somewhat slow in and out motion. i felt a bit of burning and a whole lot of self induced panic. A turn of the wrist eventually allowed His hand to penetrate just beyond the last knuckles. A brief pause followed in order to apply extra lube. During that pause i was able to relax my breathing a little as well as the muscles of my pelvic region. At that point i felt His free hand gripping and pulling back on my shoulder for leverage, as His now well lubed and half inserted hand pressed two steps forward and then one step back while twisting to one side and then the other, His hand assumed closed into a fist while inside of me. At that point, He'd removed His free hand from my shoulder and pulled one of my wrists back to settle at the base of His inserted hand. With His fist entirely inside of me, His wrist was all that i felt there.

The second time that He fisted me did not require that He stretch me just as slowly to accept the width of His hand, as compared to that first fisting. The first time probably didn't, either ... and He was just being careful so as to be certain that i could handle it physically. The second fisting was done with less patience and happened faster. Although, more force was used during the second as compared to that first time.

He's fisted me many times since, with no issue. i've never bled, torn or suffered injury.
i usually am tender and sore to the touch for several days following a fisting by Him, but not at all when fisted by a more petite female hand.

There was one time recently when His attempt to fist me, failed. As much as He tried, and as much as i complied with His attempts and tried to assist in making it happen (my relaxing my pelvic muscles, tilting my pelvis upward and toward His hand) it just wouldn't fit past the last knuckles of His four fingers.

Even when i am extremely cooperative and willing, if i am not extremely turned on, and extremely wet, as well as extremely relaxed ... it just isn't going to happen. All of these factors need to be present, for me to be fisted by His hand.

i take a more petite female fisting, with relative ease, and minimal lube/arousal/relaxation/ ... aka: preparation.

Fisting is just another one of those things that is guaranteed to be a different experience from one person to the next.
Success is not gauranteed with a large frame vs. a small (pelvic circumfrance issues can be present for either).
Success can be affected by the difference in ability of the skin to stretch ... (skin can be more or less pliable from one person to the next).
Some women who have given births vaginally, have issues with being fisted.
Some women who have NOT given births vaginally, have been fisted.

The best advice for everyone:
Take it slowly (at least the first time).
Use lube. When you think you have enough lube .... apply MORE.
Gloves may help and removing any rings would be a good idea too (we never used them, His nails are kept VERY short though ... and He removes His wedding band-- because it could pinch , not because we are afraid that it will get lost up there ... figured i'd say it before someone suggests it ).
Try different positions. --Where one won't work, another may. During sex or BDSM activities, i don't suggest to my Master how could do things, if i did, i'd suggest the following when He wants to fist me and things just aren't going as He'd wish them to: His elbow propped on the bed, so as to allow me to squat above His hand and ease myself into a successful fisting .... where i could then lie back and allow Him to do as He likes.

i love being fisted probably almost as much as He loves fisting me. --i'd say that i love it more, but He'd probably be quick to correct me.

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RE: Fisting - 11/5/2006 7:35:44 PM   
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Deborah Addington - A Hand in the Bush: The Fine Art of Vaginal Fisting

http://www.fistandfangs.com/

i had the pleasure of watching her do a demo on fisting, when done right, it is very safe and extremely enjoyable....

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RE: Fisting - 12/27/2006 5:32:37 PM   
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It sounds like your dom has a problem with safe words.

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RE: Fisting - 12/28/2006 7:35:21 AM   
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I hope nobody minds if I interject a little holiday cheer into this thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRfvSOuwM_4&eurl=

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RE: Fisting - 12/28/2006 8:59:25 AM   
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That clip is Hilarious!!!!!!  Too funny.  They look so chipper.

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RE: Fisting - 12/28/2006 9:13:54 AM   
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Fisting is incredibly hot for me.
My old Dom had basketball player wide, long, thin hands.
After his thumb knuckle was in the area around my urethra burned like hell till his hand came back out.
Another friend of mine with wide, fat, short hands fisted me, lol and he could have just kept his hand in there forever. It was the most stimulating, good feeling I've ever had inside my pussy.
Not to boast, but I've been told I have good muscle control and a nice tight snatch.
I've had four live births, love stuffing big toys in my snatch and love fisting.
I think as long as you do you keegle exercises the chance of prolapse is minimized.
I also think the affect of the childbirth causes the prolapse more than fisting.
I've attended several educational presentations of vaginal fisting and not one person mentioned prolapse as a side affect of this play.
I've only been fisted 5 times in the past two years as I think if you do it too often eventually the muscles will lose some of their elasticity even if I do kegles.
If I wasn't worried about being loosened up from doing this too often I'd want to do a LOT more of it if my Sir was willing.

Like the others say here use tons of lube & be sure to re lube every so often to decrease the risk of getting too sore from the friction, don't force too hard as that's what rips you, and be patient with yourself.
Some women just can't be fisted even if they've tried for years.

Enjoy the journey and don't consider it a failure if you can't take his whole hand.
For me I have to be very stimulated.
Usually I have to have a couple of orgasms to me relaxed enough to accommodate a hand.
The more turned on and feeling wet you are before you start the better.

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RE: Fisting - 12/30/2006 6:47:16 AM   
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i am being treined to acept my Master`s fist in my anus, we got in fie fingers once but not past the knukels, it hurts a bit, but we are always careful not to push it to far to avoid ingury. And the vagina is even more resiliant to ingrury, remember it is desigend to be able to press out a three kilos or more baby, it is desigend to take some pressure, however, ofcourse one must be careful. Aslo, training the vagina whil vibrating eggs, or things like Taoistic dear eersises will help prevent the vagina from becoming to loose.

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RE: Fisting - 12/30/2006 9:05:29 AM   
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Fisting  a woman was a fantasy of mine (male dom), so I took the direct approach and  found a woman who was an experienced fistee. (Thank god Al Gore invented the internet) Was a great experience and we had many great times together. Become local experts at parties and she fisted other women to get them started. Ah, sweet memories!
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RE: Fisting - 1/2/2007 10:42:52 AM   
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how can it go wrong now?

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RE: Fisting - 1/2/2007 10:51:02 AM   
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how about this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gohYY-tjU9A&NR

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RE: Fisting - 1/2/2007 10:52:45 AM   
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French Chambermaid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db_n0JjCIpg&mode=related&search= Ross

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