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ORIGINAL: stpaulslaveuser

Old fashioned values Vs being a submissive.

Ok, finding a guy, and doing the kind of sex HE likes doing so long as your in the mood, doesn't make you a submissive or even kinky. It makes you an old fashioned wife/breeding cow like you your boring grandma.


"submitting" yourself to some one, or any one, or to the general public, what ever the case my be, is a gift of yourself, to the person or persons you are submitting yourself to.

At the core of the idea you are basically saying "I am yours to do to whatever you wish, whenever you wish, or nothing at all, with no regard to my opinion of weather or not I like it."

I don't think you have to automatically submit. There can and sometimes is a power struggle. The loser of this struggle usually submits.

If you like to be in situations where you have no control, but don't want to freely give it ever. That's not submission. It's an entirely different fetish, where as you become bound to fulfill your captors wishes either through being bound, or the inability to fight back as a result of pain, or fear. This is called BDSM.

Learn the damn difference.
Liking rough sex doesn't automatically make you submissive.
It doesn't make for good BDSM either.
Neither does getting it up the ass.
Or sucking cock,
or liking it when some one spanks you. These are only fetishes.

You ALL will have much more fun at these things of you know the basic differences. And you won't find yourselves in situations where you don't want to be.
Yes, being a sub means you usually have more than one fetish.
Yes you can be into BDSM and be a sub at the same time. Yes All of these things can and do mix.

Everyone thinks it's easy being a DOM.
I am here to say it's NOT! It's the lead role in role playing or real life and it's very hard!
Every time you find someone new you have to find out what they need, because almost none of them know what they want, or even like. They just think they do.
Also "Slaves" are something entirely different. A slave is someone who embraces the idea of ownership. Someone who thinks of themselves as an object. Either through fear, brainwashing, or who just thinks that way.
A slaves purpose is to reflect the fetishes of whoever claims ownership.
I think wearing a collar reflects this kind of scenario far more than someone just wanting to be handcuffed and spanked by their new lover so they can call themselves kinky or submissive.
Don't come to a kinky website and post a profile and claim you know what your doing unless you do. You will just look stupid. If all you want 9 out of 10 times is to get a sperm reload in your kid popper. And then be mildly kinky the other 1 out of 10 times you get naked in the dark. Go back an post your profile on yahoo personals or friendfinder or something and leave the rest of us harmless professional perverts alone.
stpaulslaveuser

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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

Is this the best that we can do?  Is this what  the wonderful bright minds we have here can come up with when handed a golden opportunity, a veritable smorgasbord of self-importance that is ready to be ripped apart, gnashed away? 

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Here in how many pages of responses, there are but small embers of response, no flames, nothing to warm the very eyes that burn into this message board.  Shame, I say.  Shame on you.  Have we all become so bored with arrogance, so unimpressed with pomposity, so listless in the face of hubris that we should discuss what?  POPCORN and popcorn with beer? 

Friends, friends, we must find the cynicism, our insolence, our personal pique!  What has become of this community of non-conformists who are miffed,nay, TRANSGRESSED by rants of nonsense?

Soon, one day soon, the heated beast of anger will warm your bosom, and on that day, yes on THAT day my good friends, you will see the volcano that is the intelligencia of Collar me will rise up and spew venom that has yet to be only imagined..... and on that day, we will not have merely popcorn.  OH NO!  my fellows, we will have a god damn weenie roast!

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Have we all become so bored with arrogance, so unimpressed with pomposity, so listless in the face of hubris that we should discuss what?  POPCORN and popcorn with beer? 

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ORIGINAL: stpaulslaveuser

Old fashioned values Vs being a submissive.

Ok, finding a guy, and doing the kind of sex HE likes doing so long as your in the mood, doesn't make you a submissive or even kinky. It makes you an old fashioned wife/breeding cow like you your boring grandma.


"submitting" yourself to some one, or any one, or to the general public, what ever the case my be, is a gift of yourself, to the person or persons you are submitting yourself to.

At the core of the idea you are basically saying "I am yours to do to whatever you wish, whenever you wish, or nothing at all, with no regard to my opinion of weather or not I like it."

I don't think you have to automatically submit. There can and sometimes is a power struggle. The loser of this struggle usually submits.

If you like to be in situations where you have no control, but don't want to freely give it ever. That's not submission. It's an entirely different fetish, where as you become bound to fulfill your captors wishes either through being bound, or the inability to fight back as a result of pain, or fear. This is called BDSM.

Learn the damn difference.
Liking rough sex doesn't automatically make you submissive.
It doesn't make for good BDSM either.
Neither does getting it up the ass.
Or sucking cock,
or liking it when some one spanks you. These are only fetishes.

You ALL will have much more fun at these things of you know the basic differences. And you won't find yourselves in situations where you don't want to be.
Yes, being a sub means you usually have more than one fetish.
Yes you can be into BDSM and be a sub at the same time. Yes All of these things can and do mix.

Everyone thinks it's easy being a DOM.
I am here to say it's NOT! It's the lead role in role playing or real life and it's very hard!
Every time you find someone new you have to find out what they need, because almost none of them know what they want, or even like. They just think they do.
Also "Slaves" are something entirely different. A slave is someone who embraces the idea of ownership. Someone who thinks of themselves as an object. Either through fear, brainwashing, or who just thinks that way.
A slaves purpose is to reflect the fetishes of whoever claims ownership.
I think wearing a collar reflects this kind of scenario far more than someone just wanting to be handcuffed and spanked by their new lover so they can call themselves kinky or submissive.
Don't come to a kinky website and post a profile and claim you know what your doing unless you do. You will just look stupid. If all you want 9 out of 10 times is to get a sperm reload in your kid popper. And then be mildly kinky the other 1 out of 10 times you get naked in the dark. Go back an post your profile on yahoo personals or friendfinder or something and leave the rest of us harmless professional perverts alone.
stpaulslaveuser

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ORIGINAL: stpaulslaveuser
Why would it be necessary to depict yourself as some one who wants nothing more than a hook up or a playtime session with a random Dom.
Doms by the way are guilty of the same kinds of things. I never said they weren't. With my statement, I was addressing the Doms.
Again, all I am saying is. Beware of the posers. I am NOT a poser......... Yesterday, I  replied to a very promising profile that turned out to be nothing more than spam. A scheme to get a working email so I can get bombarded with email for some lame pay porn......But there is no need to blast the men, when they are looking for something, and you just aren't in the mood anymore.  It's just petty. Personal  assaults one me just because I spoke my mind is low wattage and petty also.

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ORIGINAL: stpaulslaveuser

Old fashioned values Vs being a submissive.

Ok, finding a guy, and doing the kind of sex HE likes doing so long as your in the mood, doesn't make you a submissive or even kinky. It makes you an old fashioned wife/breeding cow like you your boring grandma.


"submitting" yourself to some one, or any one, or to the general public, what ever the case my be, is a gift of yourself, to the person or persons you are submitting yourself to.

At the core of the idea you are basically saying "I am yours to do to whatever you wish, whenever you wish, or nothing at all, with no regard to my opinion of weather or not I like it."

I don't think you have to automatically submit. There can and sometimes is a power struggle. The loser of this struggle usually submits.

If you like to be in situations where you have no control, but don't want to freely give it ever. That's not submission. It's an entirely different fetish, where as you become bound to fulfill your captors wishes either through being bound, or the inability to fight back as a result of pain, or fear. This is called BDSM.

Learn the damn difference.
Liking rough sex doesn't automatically make you submissive.
It doesn't make for good BDSM either.
Neither does getting it up the ass.
Or sucking cock,
or liking it when some one spanks you. These are only fetishes.

You ALL will have much more fun at these things of you know the basic differences. And you won't find yourselves in situations where you don't want to be.
Yes, being a sub means you usually have more than one fetish.
Yes you can be into BDSM and be a sub at the same time. Yes All of these things can and do mix.

Everyone thinks it's easy being a DOM.
I am here to say it's NOT! It's the lead role in role playing or real life and it's very hard!
Every time you find someone new you have to find out what they need, because almost none of them know what they want, or even like. They just think they do.
Also "Slaves" are something entirely different. A slave is someone who embraces the idea of ownership. Someone who thinks of themselves as an object. Either through fear, brainwashing, or who just thinks that way.
A slaves purpose is to reflect the fetishes of whoever claims ownership.
I think wearing a collar reflects this kind of scenario far more than someone just wanting to be handcuffed and spanked by their new lover so they can call themselves kinky or submissive.
Don't come to a kinky website and post a profile and claim you know what your doing unless you do. You will just look stupid. If all you want 9 out of 10 times is to get a sperm reload in your kid popper. And then be mildly kinky the other 1 out of 10 times you get naked in the dark. Go back an post your profile on yahoo personals or friendfinder or something and leave the rest of us harmless professional perverts alone.
stpaulslaveuser