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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 11/3/2007 6:35:56 PM   
Vanatru


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who are you talking to, winterlight?

Edit: woohoo! I'm indescent! That's got to be a good thing. hehehe

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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 11/10/2007 7:11:14 AM   
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This forum has shown, if nothing else, that rudeness exists on both sides.  It is a reflection of the lack of character and caliber of the person who makes the rude comments.  It is also an inherent pitfall of electronic communications.  While I generally abhor smileys, I will use them when I want to emphasize the "tone" and "intent" of my message. 

Ya have to kiss a lot of frogs to find prince/princess charming.





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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 11/10/2007 10:46:21 AM   
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I am a strong, intellignet woman who knows her likes and dislikes.  I know what I am looking for in a Master.  When I approach someone, be it email, phone or in person, I do so with respect.  Often times I get the same back.  There are times I am not approached with anything close to respect.  I have received emails from Dominants who write only one line, (the following are quotes from some of the emails) "has your pussy been fisted lately" "send me all you naked pics now" "you will drop to your knees and suck my cock upon meeting" and " Being a submissve/slave the only thing you're good for is to fuck and suck my cock:.  I know right away all they are looking for is someone for sex only, not what I have to offer a Master.  Those are the type I call fakes. Their emails go unanswered. If you want a reply from me you must show me some kind of respect.  After getting to know me, and we are entering into a relationship, you can order me to suck your cock, send my pictures and you'll know the last time my pussy was fisted.
Being submissive/slave does not mean we are stupid or weak, nor does it mean we cannot think for ourselves.  Being submissive/slave does not mean we should be treated badly or no respect given.  I hold my head high and search for the Master who deserves me and whom I deserve.

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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 11/11/2007 5:44:40 PM   
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I do have to say that I usually try to 'weed' out most of the people that I wouldn't be interested in by simply reading their profile.  From looking at the e-mail that the person we have under consideration right now (isn't that a loaded term), it's obvious that most people don't even do that much.

Does this mean that every single 'match' that you find will be appropriate?  Probably not.

Now for me the humor is the 'slaves' that spend their entire profile listing out "Here are the sexual things that you need to do to/with me" - just kinda makes me go "Yeah, you're a slave - you're getting a chastity belt and the only humiliation you'll experience won't have anything to do with sex and will involve slippers, pink curlers, a nightcoat and the grocery store at 1pm."  Too many 'slaves' that really are just here to find someone who will 'force' them to engage in the group sex that they actually want anyway, but don't have the guts to simply walk into the bar and go "OK, the first 15 guys into the men's room get to fuck me in any way they want, right then and there.  I had better have 3 cocks in me for the next two or more hours"

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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 11/12/2007 3:49:04 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Solinear

I do have to say that I usually try to 'weed' out most of the people that I wouldn't be interested in by simply reading their profile.  From looking at the e-mail that the person we have under consideration right now (isn't that a loaded term), it's obvious that most people don't even do that much.

Does this mean that every single 'match' that you find will be appropriate?  Probably not.

Now for me the humor is the 'slaves' that spend their entire profile listing out "Here are the sexual things that you need to do to/with me" - just kinda makes me go "Yeah, you're a slave - you're getting a chastity belt and the only humiliation you'll experience won't have anything to do with sex and will involve slippers, pink curlers, a nightcoat and the grocery store at 1pm."  Too many 'slaves' that really are just here to find someone who will 'force' them to engage in the group sex that they actually want anyway, but don't have the guts to simply walk into the bar and go "OK, the first 15 guys into the men's room get to fuck me in any way they want, right then and there.  I had better have 3 cocks in me for the next two or more hours"



catholic guilt.

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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 11/12/2007 4:50:24 AM   
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i har that doormats are on sale at walmart

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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 11/12/2007 1:11:14 PM   
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To the Op
Your first mistake is forgetting that the submissives are first of all human and it takes time to establish that you both are after the same thing.
A Master does not have the inherrent right to expect respect just because he calls himself one.
I will never accept phony respect. When I have earned it then I will accept it.
Why do you listen other Doms, tell you how to attract a submissives?
Second  for me I believe in the Velevet glove first before the Iron hand.
Perhaps you forget that you have to get thru the no's to find the yes.

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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 11/12/2007 4:21:25 PM   
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hi yes your right i have the same problem i dont believe they are sub/slave they think they are but are not.

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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 11/12/2007 4:32:56 PM   
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Well, I don't believe with that statement you are dom, but you think you are........

edited to add:  whoops was that out loud? Sorry knee jerk reaction.

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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 11/12/2007 6:44:50 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MASTERPRM

hi yes your right i have the same problem i dont believe they are sub/slave they think they are but are not.


I'm glad you used your virgin post here to spout this garbage.  Wait....I guess I'm not a sub now either am I?  Oh damn, some guy I don't know and never will who knows nothing about me and never will has found me out!!!! He's a genius!!!

< Message edited by laurell3 -- 11/12/2007 6:45:41 PM >


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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 11/12/2007 6:57:28 PM   
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*pats laurell*

Have some peanuts......


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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 11/12/2007 6:59:35 PM   
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mmmm nuts....

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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 11/12/2007 10:41:38 PM   
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its like that on every site, alt, slave register, etc.
i have been on here for 8 days. being the new guy i have recieved alot of mail. i have potential slaves wanting to move in rigth now, but i dont hear from them the next day.i even have straight masters wanting me to dom them... people who have relocatable in their profile but they are married... the world is full of faker's and BS'rs. not much you can do. hold fast to your integrity and know you may have done something a little better than someone else by being true.

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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 11/12/2007 10:58:35 PM   
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Once in a conversation with a man who called himself a master he claimed I was a wannabe because I thought I could choose what I would submit to. When I explained to him that I do not choose 'what' I will submit to, but rather I choose very carefully 'who' I will submit to he called me a cunt and signed off.
 
...know what I'm sayin'?

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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 11/12/2007 11:14:22 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: WildHard

To the Op
Your first mistake is forgetting that the submissives are first of all human and it takes time to establish that you both are after the same thing.
A Master does not have the inherrent right to expect respect just because he calls himself one.
I will never accept phony respect. When I have earned it then I will accept it.
Why do you listen other Doms, tell you how to attract a submissives?
Second  for me I believe in the Velevet glove first before the Iron hand.
Perhaps you forget that you have to get thru the no's to find the yes.



In fact without a NO, yes has no meaning.

Respectfully submitted,
aJ

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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 11/13/2007 8:43:34 AM   
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wow, i guess he told you huh? there are fake wannabe master out there too. keep looking for what you NEED. wants and needs are usually quite different. its all relative

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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 11/13/2007 11:16:14 AM   
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Interesting thread, I'd like to just add my 2 cents here based on personal experience.
I believe in giving a bit of common courtesy to anyone who emails me, even those who send me one liners. So no matter who emails me, they will almost always get a polite reply back. A while ago, a dominant from this thread emailed me. He was fairly polite, gave me more than just a one liner to work with, had read my profile...certainly more than enough to give him the same respect in turn. But, it seemed like he had read my profile, but not really understood anything I had said in it. Specifically, three major details about myself: I wasn't able to relocate, my submission had nothing to do with sexual relations, and that I was least interested in serving a random stranger who emails me because he thinks I'd make a good sub, and most interested in those who tried to get to know me as a friend without actually intending to collar me. After a couple of emails it became clear that this person was hoping to eventually own me in a romantic relationship where I would move several states to him.....yet still didn't understand these three dealbreakers, even after I tried to hint about them in my emails. So, I told him that I was perfectly willing to chat with him over emails, but that he had no chance at owning me. Pretty polite, to the point, not trying to dupe this guy or be something I'm not for kicks.

What did I get from this polite dom who talked about respect in this thread?

A few peeved emails starting with how I should rewrite my profile to state what I actually mean, followed a few days later by one surprised I still hadn't followed his directions to rewrite the profile, followed by one sparked by a journal entry that he was the perfect master for me, and if I hadn't set myself up with unneeded limitations, I could to be owned by him.

I hope everyone, including the guy who sent those emails, knows that the first reaction of any sub to a series of emails like that is to run from such a person because they clearly are not the type of "dom" you would want?

Right, its been said before, I'll point it out again. Everyone here deals with the same annoying things, and respect works both ways. Now, I'm not saying he's all in the wrong here. Certainly, unlike other profiles that might state in big bold red letters their dealbreakers, mine actually took common sense and a bit of reading comprehension to figure out. The point is, it does no good to complain about the lack of common respect here if your response to "No thanks" is to harass and whine. So, if you want to approach a sub over email, here's some pointers:
A: Be respectful and polite.
B: Don't get angry. Take a refusal when given and move on.
C: Don't put the other person on the hot seat. Try to introduce yourself in a vanilla fashion, and don't demand they "tell them about yourself." Just get to know them like any other normal person would!
D: Tell the person straight away why you are emailing them.
E: Let the connection, if any, take a normal pace. No one is going to consider someone until they know them, and no one wants to get to know someone just because you want to consider them.
F: If they want you to IM them or email them off collarme, they'll give you their contact info. Don't hound them for it, especially not in the first or second email.
G: We're people too. Understand that and its much easier to make a connection.
H: Don't "demand" or ask the sub to change anything about their profile unless they happen to be your sub.

I could probably lay out a whole alphabet, but those are mostly what come to mind. I'd point out who this person is, but I think there's a rule against that. Just remember not to complain about something if you have a habit of doing it yourself.

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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 11/13/2007 3:07:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterA56

I am curious to hear the experiences of other Masters on this site.  In the short time I have communicated with potential subs/slaves, I have found 99.9% of them are only "pretending".
As soon as they are faced with actually backing up what they say in their profiles, they either delete their profile or get "cold feet" and stop responding to questions.
Any feedback is appreciated. Thank you!



You know, it's funny; I don't look for potential anything here and find a lot of potential for any number of things.   That mainly stems from my general outlook, which is to take people for what they are.

Out of curiosity, how well do you get to know these people?  Do you chat in other forums, trade jokes, let yourself be silly or clumsy?  I don't concern myself with the validity of others, and unless the person matters to me, I've no reason to be introspective regarding my own validity.  [That is to say, if a good friend makes an observation they feel is important, I will consider it regardless of any knee-jerk response on my part.  That's not just respect for the ones I've chosen to consider friends; it's a measure of my own ability to be willing to continue growing and evolving as a person.]

My best advice?  Chat.  Laugh.  Share personal insights.  Know them.  As you learn about and from them, you'll be able to determine for yourself if they suit you.  Then deal with the situation for what it is.


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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 11/13/2007 8:31:45 PM   
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i really appreciate what you are saying biracalsub...

i had a few interactions with a Domme - just to try it out and because i was much more bi in the past... i was very clear about it and would see Her online on another server.  She would demand that i stop talking, working, scening, whatever, to play with Her,and i did my best to say, no i am not available right now and she told me to get back to her at a time that was 3 in the morning for me.... what should i do?  i have said no several times, and it is so hard to say it again... i feel foolish - that was a great word....  ahhh thank you for the reminder to be adult rather than just avoiding it.   excuse me while i go write an email.  *smiles

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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 11/13/2007 10:39:31 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterA56

I am curious to hear the experiences of other Masters on this site.  In the short time I have communicated with potential subs/slaves, I have found 99.9% of them are only "pretending".
As soon as they are faced with actually backing up what they say in their profiles, they either delete their profile or get "cold feet" and stop responding to questions.
Any feedback is appreciated. Thank you!

It happens all too often.   There must be very few real subs out there.



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