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RE: who works out - 11/10/2007 11:08:28 AM   
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Had your doctor said you could cycle?  I am sorry about your joint problems, and I take Osteo Biflex which seems to help my knees.

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RE: who works out - 11/10/2007 12:13:34 PM   
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>>Tried ECA stacking? (Ephedra-Caffiene-Aspirin)?  By definition a fat-burner is catabolic, but I assume what you're talking about is a compound that tries to minimize lean body mass loss while maximizing fat burning.  Which is of dubious value compared to just knowing what the hell you're doing with the timing and macronutrient ratios of eating and working out.<<

I know that Ephedra is banned in the United States, and I get mine over the Internet.  After every workout, I have a protein drink called Probolic-SR which is made by MHP; I usually buy it in GNC or The Vitamine Shoppe.  Since I do so much cardio,  I don't do low carb ever, but I try to get most of my carbs from fresh fruit and veggies.  However, I have a partner who is an enabler, and he buys things like Ben and Jerry's ice cream.  I do the cardio for no other reason except that I love to do it.   I never advise anybody to do an hour of kickboxing and an hour of cycling after that.   With weights, I go heavier on my legs because I want to keep my legs strong for running, step aerobics and so on.

I have had setbacks, such as when I became serverely anemic last winter, and I couldn't work out for months.  It is great if you can find a workout partner, and I am working on my running so I can run with a pack again.  I used to run 50 to 60 miles a week and completes marathons and half marathons.  I just love very long cardio sessions, and I compare the rush I get from it to the rush I get from S/m.

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RE: who works out - 11/10/2007 1:07:43 PM   
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I have been working out for the past 20 years. I work out 6 days/week, both cardio and weights. I am also certified to train in fitness. I live with two fitness trainers. Working out makes me feel better and has kept me looking  younger than my actual age. It has also had a positive effect on my children. They see mom working out and staying healthy, which inspires them to do the same.

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RE: who works out - 11/11/2007 3:53:29 AM   
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MsPhantasia--- I work out with mine as well run bike, they even have 2 lb weights they use but I dont push them, they quiet often ask to go and work out

PrettyNYKitten---high IUs of E helps with knees as well, I agree I tell people to start slow but dont follow that advice myself, Im either all in or all out, I would think the high cardio keeps your legs lean so you can get a way with heavier weights, I do less cardio so when I work my legs hard they get huge so I tend to do higher reps with them with maybe half or less of what I could do.  

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RE: who works out - 11/11/2007 4:10:57 AM   
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quote:

what do you do and how often


It's not for fun, but because I need it. I finally have the strenght to keep going. Starting is easy, to stick with it is hard.
I try to work out every morning, but I guess it's more like 5-6 days a week. 25 minutes rhytm dance, and then about 20-30 minutes cardio.
It does feel good now that my muscles don't ache as much. Got a great tip from master George, eat one banana a day and it reduces muscle aches, and it actually works!

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RE: who works out - 11/11/2007 5:06:15 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: GentleLee

quote:

what do you do and how often



Got a great tip from master George, eat one banana a day and it reduces muscle aches, and it actually works!





Thats a great tip

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RE: who works out - 11/11/2007 7:10:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: GentleLeeGot a great tip from master George, eat one banana a day and it reduces muscle aches, and it actually works!


The mechanism is most likely potassium.  Calcium, magnesium and potassium are crucial minerals for bodybuilders and athletes as they play an important role in mediating many things that happen in our muscles.  A good article can be found here: http://www.newhope.com/nutritionsciencenews/NSN_backs/May_99/10for_road.cfm

The banana is a reasonably good source of dietary potassium if you also need to intake carbs in the form of fructose at the same time.  There are other sources as well, some with much higher concentrations, and if you are manipulating and timing your macronutrient intake, you should be aware of them.  This page may help.




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RE: who works out - 11/11/2007 7:20:53 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Najakcharmer

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ORIGINAL: GentleLeeGot a great tip from master George, eat one banana a day and it reduces muscle aches, and it actually works!


The mechanism is most likely potassium.  Calcium, magnesium and potassium are crucial minerals for bodybuilders and athletes as they play an important role in mediating many things that happen in our muscles.  A good article can be found here: http://www.newhope.com/nutritionsciencenews/NSN_backs/May_99/10for_road.cfm

The banana is a reasonably good source of dietary potassium if you also need to intake carbs in the form of fructose at the same time.  There are other sources as well, some with much higher concentrations, and if you are manipulating and timing your macronutrient intake, you should be aware of them.  This PDF may help.



Potassium is seems to be the most common culprit with muscle spasms.  In my case it didn't do the trick on its own.  One magnesium tab every other day coupled with the occaisional banana has done wonders for me, however.
 
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RE: who works out - 11/12/2007 12:49:18 AM   
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I dont do max weights because im afraid of hurting something but maybe someday



Copy on the injuries. I had a fairly severe elbow injury back in April from too much weight hanging off the belt while on the dip bar. I use a high quality sleeve/brace--with tape underneath-- and make sure I never lock my elbows while pumpn' out the failure reps.

As for supplements :   I have a fridge full of banana muscle milk {It actually tastes damn good} and have used the Cellmass, Nitrex and the No-explode combo. And yeah....they work---although they bloat ya up. I've also used Stallone's Forza-T recently { an estrogen suppressant that definitely works}





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RE: who works out - 11/12/2007 10:09:37 AM   
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I do an hour of TaeBo 6 days a week. On Sundays, I walk just because I feel bad for eating on that day without any sort of exercise.

This may not be as intense as a lot of you, but I've been at it for a month now and am very proud of myself! I've lost 8 pounds so far and feel great!

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RE: who works out - 11/12/2007 1:26:13 PM   
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TwistedLady--- kudos to you, there isnt anything wrong with just walking its more than some get,
I find people like to use the excuse they already work hard and dont feel they need it but thats actually negitive work thats not good for you and walking hiking ect. is positive work that is good for you..

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RE: who works out - 11/12/2007 3:35:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: UtopianRanger
I've also used Stallone's Forza-T recently { an estrogen suppressant that definitely works}


Post cycle recovery?  What are you using on cycle then? 

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RE: who works out - 11/12/2007 6:39:34 PM   
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I've also heard a lot about HIIT and am really thinking about including this into my workout scheduel. The only thing is, I'm quite a bit overweight and am a little afraid I'd literally pass out or have a heart attack or something. I'm going to try it anyways when I get my treadmill.

If I find I can actually do it, what would you all suggest for a "getting to a healthy weight and maintaining" fitness scheduel. I like TaeBo, which is circuit training. I was thinking I could do something like this:

Monday - TaeBo 1 hour workout
Tuesday - HIIT (starting with lesser time then working up to 15 minutes)
Wednesday - TaeBo
Thursday - HIIT
Friday - TaeBo
Saturday - HIIT
Sunday - Walk between 1 to 5 miles. I'll up my mileage as I get more used to workingout.

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RE: who works out - 11/12/2007 7:48:25 PM   
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i have not exercised in quite awhile. I have a foot problem. It flares up here and there (plantar fascillitis). What can i do for exercise. I also have arthritis in my spine and was told by a Physical Therapist to stay away from gyms with weights. Any suggestions?

tyvm

yes, i know this is (not the same as seeing somebody) just suggestions.

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RE: who works out - 11/12/2007 10:08:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TwistedLady

I've also heard a lot about HIIT and am really thinking about including this into my workout scheduel. The only thing is, I'm quite a bit overweight and am a little afraid I'd literally pass out or have a heart attack or something. I'm going to try it anyways when I get my treadmill.


The beauty of HIIT is that you need to be defining "intense" in relation to YOU, and set your intervals at a level appropriate to your current fitness.   You should not be striving to match anyone else's degrees of intensity here, just honestly changing your effort levels from "intense" to "cool down period" to "moderate" and back to "intense", repeatedly.  If you can only spend 15 seconds to start with in the intense zone and need a minute to cool down, and you only do this for 5 minutes total at a time before pooping out, that's okay - you'll soon be able to do 8 minutes total and 30 seconds of intensity at a time, and keep improving from there.

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I was thinking I could do something like this:


All looks good, except you may want to factor in a rest day if you're really hitting the HIIT hard.

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RE: who works out - 11/12/2007 11:55:38 PM   
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Post cycle recovery?



HAR!  I always think of myself as financially secure....but the cost of Forza-T is up there with some these expensive prescription drugs. Seriously.... A tribulus supplement with the Cellmass combo serves me quite well.

The Forza-T is something I tried just for the ''bump'' if you know what I mean. It definitely brings out that DESIRE. And don't get me wrong....there are plenty of other great stacks out there---that I wonder if they should be legal!?---but I don't like all the water build-up.





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RE: who works out - 11/13/2007 1:22:52 AM   
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**blinks** Is that really the Ranger?!?!?!?!?!
Ping me on the other side or give me a call.  It's been too long, my friend.

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RE: who works out - 11/13/2007 5:04:20 AM   
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Thank you for the response. As for having a rest day, I did that on Sundays for a while. However, my days are rather sedentary aside from the time I workout. Of course, I do household chores and errands. I also have two little ones and take care of them. I already feel like I'm not getting enough exercise with just the TaeBo 6 days a week. So, I added in walking on Sundays. If I had a standing job or the like I wouldn't feel so badly about it. But, I do a lot of sitting during my usual days.

I also eat at a calorie deficit of -1000, which puts me at eating around 1700 calories per day on my TaeBo days. On Sunday, I drop that to 1500 because I'm not getting my usual exercise to burn the excess calories.

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RE: who works out - 11/13/2007 3:04:51 PM   
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TwistedLady if you set at a desk you could wear leg weights so when you do get up thats extra work or bounce your legs under the desk, if you wear a skirt you could take them off when you wanted to get up to do something, while sitting you can practice flexing your abs it doesnt seem like much but do it all day. old time body builders used to suck their stomachs in and hold it and doing that gets hard but works your muscles and burns calories, you could also have a small rubber ball on your desk to pick up and give a few squeezes every so often which will work your hands and forarms a little 

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RE: who works out - 11/13/2007 3:33:07 PM   
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Ranger - proper, er, cycles and stacks can get expensive, but you can waste a whole lot more money on crap that will either do jack squat or fry your liver.  Anyhow girls can get away cheap in this game since our effective doses are insanely low compared to the guys. 

TwistedLady: A 1000 calorie deficit from eating alone plus daily exercising is a bit much.  Your body can pull a shutdown on you because it thinks you're in famine mode, and that isn't going to help your results.  Rather than just look at restricting calories, I'd highly recommend partitioning - eating 4-5 small meals a day plus a snack or two of healthy, clean food, and running no more than a -500 calorie deficit.  Protein should be from fairly lean sources, carbs should be complex and tapered off later in the day, and fats should be largely from healthy sources (fish, olive oil and EFA's, nuts).  A sample meal for me on a cutting cycle would be:

Breaklfast: 1/4 cup oats, 1/2 cup cottage cheese, 1/2 cup skim milk, 1 scoop Isopure protein powder (25g straight protein), coffee with a dash of skim milk and Splenda
Midmorning: Piece of fruit or piece of yummy whole grain bread, small portion of water pack tuna or steamed chicken breast
Lunch: Steamed chicken breast or piece of fish layered on spinach, roasted peppers, thick slice of tomato, as many more raw veggies as I can pile on the plate, a slice or two of nonfat cheese, drizzle of olive oil and a splash of good balsamic vinegar.
Midafternoon: 1/4 to 1/2 a small sweet potato, sugar free maple syrup or brown sugar substitute, plus protein source - maybe a piece of lean pork, turkey lunch meat, a small lean steak, or if I'm lazy I'll hit a protein shake.
Dinner: Red meat, preferably something ultra lean like venison or buffalo or organic grass fed beef, and a metric butt-ton of vegetables No other carbs unless it's a heavy workout recovery day, in which case I might hit another portion of sweet potato, brown rice or whole grain product. 
Before bed: On a cutting cycle, a fiber and mineral drink, L-glutamine and a big ass handful of dessicated liver tablets.  On a bulking cycle, Muscle Milk protein shake.  My current favorite flavor is chocolate mint.

If I miss any of those meals I make sure to hit a protein shake.  I use several different types depending on the timing of the meal in relation to my workouts and recovery days. 

Keep in mind that this is a weightlifter's schedule with strong emphasis on keeping protein intake extremely high and consistent throughout the day.  A non lifter could lose the protein shakes and probably get away with substituting some more complex carbs for some of the lean protein.  As a lifter, currently "natural", with the goal of muscle building, I aim for 1.5 grams or more of protein per pound of bodyweight daily.  A non lifter should be going around .8 grams per pound, but you can go up to 1 gram per pound if you keep the protein lean and get enough complex carbs pre- and post-workout.

Rush - leg weights during cardio cause accidents.  Most studies show that it's not worth the additional risk; it's better to raise intensity in other ways than with extremely light repetitive resistance.  If you want to lift weights, lift weights, but hybridizing resistance and cardio has an annoyingly high rate of injury. 


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