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RE: who works out - 11/13/2007 4:00:39 PM   
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Its all about yoga for me. 1 1/2 hours a day, 3-5 days a week.

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RE: who works out - 11/13/2007 9:31:33 PM   
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TwistedLady: A 1000 calorie deficit from eating alone plus daily exercising is a bit much.  Your body can pull a shutdown on you because it thinks you're in famine mode, and that isn't going to help your results.  Rather than just look at restricting calories, I'd highly recommend partitioning - eating 4-5 small meals a day plus a snack or two of healthy, clean food, and running no more than a -500 calorie deficit. 


I agree if you dont eat enough your body will store what lil you do eat. I dont eat like most weight lifters or as much but do get the calories I need with only about a 300 calorie deficit but that also depends. I dont know what your diet is but i would cut out any pop cut down on coffee creamers, and really up your protiens. protien also causes you to burn calories because its harder to digest than carbs, change up your diet as well because your body gets used to it and then you wont loose anymore. I dont remember how much but fish oil helps you loose weight if taken every day as well as cider vinager or dark vinagers, white vinager is very bad for you, its also a good idea to fast once a week, not good for people who are bulking but good for body over all it helps clean you out lol so will the vinager just a little bit like a table spoon in 8 ozs of water i drink it a little stronger but I like it that way and am used to it you can also add honey but dont go over board, if you start eating more protiens you should take extra amino acids to help your body use the protiens a little better

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RE: who works out - 11/14/2007 5:48:44 AM   
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Well, shoot. In all the research I've found, they say it's alright to eat at between a -500 to -1000 calorie deficit. Anything lower than the -1000 would likely have your body in starvation mode if done at any prolonged length of time. My proteins and carbs seem to be fine. I do seem to have issues with getting in enough fat though. My fat intake has been rather low, which isn't healthy either. I'm new to this, so still trying to find my way. I'll work on getting some healthy fats and talk to a nutritionalist about my calorie deficit. I've gotten all my information from the net and it seems to differ. Thanks.

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RE: who works out - 11/14/2007 2:37:18 PM   
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I use to lift weights about three times a week, but I've cut back. Now I just do ab workouts two to three times a week to make sure my tummy isn't just flat, but firm also. 

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RE: who works out - 11/14/2007 3:46:47 PM   
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Well, shoot. In all the research I've found, they say it's alright to eat at between a -500 to -1000 calorie deficit. Anything lower than the -1000 would likely have your body in starvation mode if done at any prolonged length of time. My proteins and carbs seem to be fine. I do seem to have issues with getting in enough fat though. My fat intake has been rather low, which isn't healthy either. I'm new to this, so still trying to find my way. I'll work on getting some healthy fats and talk to a nutritionalist about my calorie deficit. I've gotten all my information from the net and it seems to differ. Thanks.



it just depends on what your goals are and yes everyone has a different veiw about whats good for you, a nutritionalist may help but I feel they go by the USDA and that was made so we dont starve and the USDA goes by the min that we need to live, what I do is find out all the vitimins and minerals are in a tomato and then look at what the USDA thinks we need to eat a day and compair then you can make up your own mind, I would do what works for you mix and match until things work

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RE: who works out - 11/14/2007 3:53:08 PM   
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Well, shoot. In all the research I've found, they say it's alright to eat at between a -500 to -1000 calorie deficit. Anything lower than the -1000 would likely have your body in starvation mode if done at any prolonged length of time.


Thing is, if you're running a 1,000 kcal deficit from your BMR by food intake alone, and adding exercise on top of that, you're running more than a 1,000 deficit.  There isn't a magic setpoint where you can run a 999 kcal deficit and be fine but a 1,000 kcal deficit automatically triggers catabolism of lean body mass and more stubborn fat storage.  Doesn't work that way - the setpoint differs for each individual depending on many, many factors, and 1,000 is a rough estimate of where most people who are trying to lose body fat are going to start having issues.

How's that level working for you?  If it's working and giving you the results you want, great.  If not, then change it up.  If it isn't working, I'd suggest changing it in the direction of lowering the deficit point as that is the most likely issue.

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My proteins and carbs seem to be fine. I do seem to have issues with getting in enough fat though. My fat intake has been rather low, which isn't healthy either.


Salmon.  Mackerel.  Flaxseed oil.  Avocado.  Olive oil.  Walnuts.  Pretty easy to add fats really.

Post a typical day's worth of meals?

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RE: who works out - 11/14/2007 4:14:19 PM   
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Yes the best way to lose weight is to follow the simple equation --> burn more calories in a day than you consume. A standard rule of thumb is that one pound of body fat = 3500 calories, although it's different for everyone. There is lots to take into consideration. As people said above, you cannot starve your body too much. Try to make the calories that you consume healthier to avoid body fat buildup or unhealthy fat. Try to eat more monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats as opposed to saturated and trans fats. Eat more vitamins and minerals. Lean meat and whole wheat bread are great too. A good habit is to keep healthy snack food around so that when you get hungry you nibble on apple, celery, or a handful of raisins as opposed to cookies. An improved diet and good exercise will work wonders. Good luck and keep asking questions. I (and it seems others on this forum) am very knowledgable on fitness and nutrition and always willing to help.

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RE: who works out - 11/14/2007 5:33:56 PM   
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This is exactly how I have my calorie intake set. I use the Benedict Formula to start:

BMR for women = 655 + (4.35 X weight in pounds) + (4.7 X height in inches) - (4.7 X age in years) = 2083.1 at my current weight. I change this on a weekly basis as I lose weight.

I then figure my activity into this equation as sedentary because I sit a lot of the day. Of course, I do housework, take care of young ones, run errands, etc.

Sedentary Activity = BMR X 1.2 = 2499.72 Again, this is changed on a weekly basis as my weight changes.

I then manually add the extra calories burned through workouts and physical activity aside from regular daily things.

For instance, I do a 50 minute TaeBo Total Body workout daily. I figure that as burning around 500 calories.

So, I take 2499.72 and add the 500 to it = 2999.72

Now, I subtract my 1000 calorie deficit from this number which gives me 1999.72

I generally eat from 1700 to 1900 depending on the day. Most days it averages around 1850. This -should- put me at losing 2 pounds per week. I do need to change up my workouts a bit though. I've pulled muscles doing TaeBo because I'm basically overdoing it. I do the warmup and stretches. I try to get the forms right. It's just going to take me time to adjust. I've only been at this for around a month now and my body isn't used to working out.

Here is an example of my daily meals:

Breakfast = 2 servings of whole wheat cereal, 2 servings of 1% fat free milk

Lunch = 2 servings of wheat bread, 2 servings of low fat turkey breast, 1 cup raw carrots, 2 servings of low fat italian dressing

Dinner = A meat (baked chicken breast, ground beef, etc), two vegetables. Sometimes I do a pasta and one veggie.

Snack = This is only eaten if I have calories I need to get for the day. Cantaloupe, apple, apple sauce, banana, etc. Every once and a while I eat a sweet snack. I don't like to completely cut them out of my life because things like that tend to lead me to overeating them after going without them for so long. It's a mental thing.

Also, would anyone happen to know how much sodium, protein, fats, and carbs I need to consume daily? Or, is there an equation that includes height/weight figures to calculate it?


Edit: I've tried to eat 5 to 6 small meals during the day but can't do it. I like to feel "full" from my meals. If I eat 3 meals I generally get full that way while staying within my calorie deficit. If I do the 5 to 6 small meals, I never feel full. It feels like I never really eat!

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RE: who works out - 11/14/2007 10:44:41 PM   
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Ok everyone, keep working out.  I am recovering from a hip replacement and my PT said i am as strong as anyone over 60 she has seen and it really is making my recovery go better.  All my weight training over the years is really paying off.

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RE: who works out - 11/14/2007 11:34:29 PM   
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This is exactly how I have my calorie intake set. I use the Benedict Formula to start:


The Benedict formula is only as accurate as your estimate of your own lean body mass.  Fat is not very metabolically active tissue, so your body fat percentage will markedly affect the accuracy of the calculation.  Your calorie range isn't bad and should not be causing metabolic deficit at your activity level. 

Get some more protein at breakfast, and eat more and smaller meals.  Three meals a day is a rotten prescription for weight loss.  You need more like five at a minimum. 

Fructose preferentially refills liver glycogen rather than muscle glycogen, but that probably won't be an issue for you as a cardio person rather than a lifter.  Though if you really want to kick start the weight loss AND up your ability to eat sweet stuff, I'd highly recommend switching up some of the cardio for resistance training.  You can indulge in the sweet stuff by eating it immediately post-workout (after muscle glycogen depletion), keeping it low fat, and keeping it reasonably within your normal calorie intake range.  I don't personally like sweet stuff, so I just slam down dextrose or maltodextrin in my post workout protein shake, because it's actually needed at that time to refill muscle glycogen stores and promote rapid recovery.  There's nothing really stopping me from downing a portion of something like an Enteman's fat free pastry along with my PWO protein shake and getting similarly good results, except that I generally can't be bothered.


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Also, would anyone happen to know how much sodium, protein, fats, and carbs I need to consume daily? Or, is there an equation that includes height/weight figures to calculate it?


Depends on your goals.  Protein is what you start with - aim for a minimum of .8 grams per lb of bodyweight daily.  Some people will have you go as low as .8 grams per pound of lean body mass, and lifters go as high as 1.5 to 2g or more.  The ones on the high end of that spectrum are usually drug assisted. 

The rest needs to be mostly complex carbs, except immediately pre and post workout when you can take in some simple carbs (sugars), and fats from healthy sources.  How you partition between carbs and fat depends on your insulin sensitivity.  Some people respond very well to a lower carb, higher fat diet.  Others respond better to the reverse.  The only set number is protein.  You need to tweak between carbs and fats as works for you.  Fat slows gastric uptake and reduces glycemic index, which makes it good for increased fullness and satiety, but bad immediately pre and post workout as it interferes with really efficient muscle fuel uptake.

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Edit: I've tried to eat 5 to 6 small meals during the day but can't do it. I like to feel "full" from my meals. If I eat 3 meals I generally get full that way while staying within my calorie deficit. If I do the 5 to 6 small meals, I never feel full. It feels like I never really eat!


You may have issues with insulin sensitivity, ghrelin and/or leptin.....or you may just like to eat and feel full.  Either way, moving to a lower carb, higher fat, higher protein diet probably has the best chance of fixing this and making sure you feel full and satiated.

Try this on for size.  Adjust portions to your caloric needs. Your drinks are water, unsweetened tea and no-calorie beverages.  Hood's Calorie Countdown is what you'll be using instead of skim milk, if you need milk. 

Breakfast: On workout days, full fat cottage cheese and either a small portion of berries or a small portion of whole wheat cereal or oats (try sprinkling this on top of the cottage cheese with Splenda, it's tasty).  On nonworkout days, have a cheese and veggie omelette, or grilled tomatoes and a ham steak.  You want to intake enough fat to feel full and satisfied.  Right around a workout fat will slow nutrient uptake too much, so drop the fat and raise the carbs at those times. 

Midmorning: Natural (no sugar added) peanut butter or full fat cheese or cream cheese on a slice of whole grain bread on workout days, a bran cracker on non workout days.  Low carb protein shake of some kind - a scoop of whey in water or Hood's low carb milk substitute works well.

Lunch: Meat with a little fat (chicken breast or fish drizzled with olive oil, or some trimmed red meat), all the green salad type veggies you want.  On workout days add a small portion of whole wheat pasta or 1/4 a small sweet potato with a pat of butter.  Nonworkout days, no more starch after midmorning.

Midafternoon: Unsalted walnuts, almonds or macadamia nuts, or a small piece of full fat cheese.   If you're hungry after this snack, have a hardboiled egg. 

Dinner: Meat and all the cooked veggies you want.  No starches.

What you're aiming for on a ketogenic diet is 1 gram of protein per lb of bodyweight and around 50-60 carbs a day on workout days, 30 carbs or less on nonworkout days, the rest of your calories come from fat (preferably from healthy sources of fat).   The South Beach Diet has a lot going for it, as does the Paleolithic Diet and Body For Life.  You may not need to go truly ketogenic, in which case you can revise your carbs upward and your fat downward.  There is no one size fits all formula, and you'll need to figure out what works with your metabolism. 

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RE: who works out - 11/15/2007 3:53:15 PM   
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I work out 5-6 days a week sometimes more if Ma'am wants to go twice a day. I do 45min -1 hr of cardio every other day and then do weights each day and just rotate the muscle group. Overall workout time varies just depends on how long it takes to to complete all my exercises. I'm really bad about stretching though and so I'm not very flexible.

Something to consider when loosing weight (i work around a lot of people who are obsessed with it) is to make sure you are drinking lots of water. Enough to make sure your urine is clear, staying fully hydrated will help you metabolism pick up and stay up. Be conscious of the fact that you will pick up some water weight on the scale at first. Also try to have small snacks in between meals, and reduce your portions to make up for these snacks. If you find them, bars like "Soyjoy" work great, other more common bars like powerbars and so forth are more then needed will cause you to need a larger reduction in meal size to make up for all the extra. Anyways the point is to have a small healthy snack in between meals to keep your metabolism still running. Lots of people (after that magic wall in the early 20's) have metabolisms that run out of fuel in between meals, and sot hey shut down. Once they shut down it takes more energy and a longer time to get them running again and back to full speed. If you eat small healthy snacks (just 1 really) in between it will help your metabolism stay running and not shut down until the next meal. So you will burn more through the day and you will burn more of your main meals faster.

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RE: who works out - 11/23/2007 2:45:54 PM   
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Weightlifting and a bit of boxing.

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RE: who works out - 11/24/2007 5:04:19 PM   
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I'm an AFAA Certified Group Exercise Instructor.  The formats I teach are Step, Step&Sculpt, Power Sculpting, Aqua, Pilates, 24Lift, 24S.E.T., StepJam, 24Dance and quite a few others.  I also teach Salsa dance and I write dance and step choreography.  I work 6 days a week, sometimes teaching 3 or more classes a day.  Best job in the world, I tell ya....I get paid to exercise. 

I always lift heavy and then reduce the weight (Pyramiding).  Supersets are also good.  I enjoy Step and Aqua for my cardio and of course, I'm deeply in love with Pilates.  If you'd like to see an example of the formats I teach, check out Les Mills BodyPump(tm).  You can google it.  I do NOT teach BodyPump(tm), however, I teach similar formats.  I would strongly encourage you to try a format where you do your weight lifting repetitions differently for each set and you do them to muscle FAILURE......not to fatigue, to FAILURE.  Muscular Endurance is where it's at now.

Also, don't forget your "Powerhouse" and that is your "core".  Work those abs because strong abs not only look good, they'll support your back and that helps prevent lower-back issues.

Ladies, remember: Water is a fat cell's BIGGEST enemy.  Your body cannot effectively burn fat unless you are properly hydrated, so drink up!  Put down the barbie doll dumb bells and grab those 10lb. or 12lb. ones!!!!!

Ok, class dismissed.


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RE: who works out - 11/25/2007 2:52:38 PM   
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There was a time earlier this year where I was seriously feeling myself. I'd wake up at 5am a couple of days a week, cook myself a big breakfast, and head to Muay Thai class in the city. For anyone that doesn't know about it, Muay Thai is one of the most physically demanding martial arts one can do. We'd start the class with a two to three minute round of rope or shadowboxing, a set of 5 pushups, situps, and squats, then we'd repeat - increasing the number each time till we were doing about 40 pushups, situps, and squats. The floor would be so wet with sweat that it was actually difficult to jump rope sometimes. That was just the warmup.

On the days I wasn't kickboxing, I'd bike from my house (in Jersey) to the train (about 2 miles), ride the train into Manhattan, then I'd bike from Manhattan to my job in Brooklyn (about 4 miles). I pummel that bridge in about seven minutes non-stop now :)

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RE: who works out - 11/28/2007 9:45:52 PM   
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I'm new to the message boards, but I'm loving going to the gym so I thought I'd chime in...I go 5 mornings per week, three weights and two cardio. I love soft, curvy women, but I also love the toned body...for myself, I enjoy having muscles and firmness....mean Mistress

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RE: who works out - 11/29/2007 5:50:39 AM   
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    Love working out - it keeps me sane , and happy with my body .  Also let's me indulge in those yummy obscene desserts every now and then - with no guilt whatsoever !
 
6-7 days a week , I alternate or combine -  long walks , running , bicycling ,  Total gym  ,  yoga , kayakking , and  Trikke-ing   ( trikke.com - if you're not sure what that is ) .    I love feeling fit and strong !  And nothing tastes as good as fitness looks and feels .  
      Also provides plenty of stamina for treating my subs as they need and deserve  !   


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RE: who works out - 11/29/2007 11:22:03 AM   
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hello all,

i'm getting back into a fitness routine after 15 months of "practically nothing." a severe B12 deficiency and some other life issues knocked me for a loop.......i went from biking 10 miles a day, swimming and weight training 3 times a week to SPLAT!!

NajakCharmer-Whispered Sighs and others....thank you for your very informative posts.

Proud sub....i hear you on the joint issues. i was a long distance runner in a former life.......looking forward to adding Yoga and Pilates to my fitness routine...

be well.
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RE: who works out - 12/2/2007 12:03:29 PM   
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I exercise for fun as well - I play an arcade game called DDR (Dance Dance Revolution), and that alone helped me lose all my excess fat, increased my muscle tone on my legs, and gave me a heightened sense of timing and rhythm.

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RE: who works out - 12/8/2007 1:22:03 PM   
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Right now..........  Im doing "P.A.C.E."  class again..... circut/resistance training..........  in the summer was donig some wts...............  I always have to do "SOMETHING" to releive stress..................  keep "depression" away...........(live where its mostly DARK most hours of the day and VERY COLD"..........  to keep the wt off..........  (used to be 25lbs heavier).....................

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RE: who works out - 12/8/2007 7:00:42 PM   
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Weights are a fun challenge.  Would like to lift a lot more- but gotta settle for a 335lb bench press for now.

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