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RE: Sissies' Acceptance Problem - 12/17/2007 5:43:27 AM   
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Ladies < MIstress'es and sissy's or panty boys

it appears that most dont like or play these type or session or roleplays haveing a male sub as a panty boi my question now is well you may have already answered it but  say you have a sub male whos not into nor would or dosent seek too wear panties or bras .. would you at some time or point put him in them just to see the reactions or how  the sub would handle this ??????? as for humilioation or embrassments  for a cd or panty boi exposeing them to other Mistress"es and or other Males  and or  Dom Males . im sure this is they type of humiliation play many might seek or want too try or perhaps they have a secret want too ?


If he's not into it and I'm not into it I'd have no reason to force it on us.
 
My slave came with the panties, not as humiliation but because of the feel.  I enjoyed it after awhile because he enjoyed it.  Plus he has the body for them!

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RE: Sissies' Acceptance Problem - 12/25/2007 3:02:49 AM   
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sorry for brinng this back up but LotusSong   i think thats what has many who wear panties or enjoy wearing or like is there feeling of them the softness and there comfortnees

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RE: Sissies' Acceptance Problem - 12/25/2007 10:42:23 AM   
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It seems like I’ve answered this thread but it probably was another. Anyhow, for many years I steered away from crossdressing because it wasn’t really my thing. The number one thing that motivates me within female domination is control. It involves a delicate combination or manipulation, humiliation and complete subjugation all steady on a foundation or compassion, trust and respect. Its easy to see contradictions especially in heavy players. I consider myself a heavy & experienced player not only physically but psychologically and emotionally. In fact I am going to share some tips and advice, I hope that will help both the top and bottom in understanding the Mistress/Sissy dynamic.


A sissy is not a man or woman. In most cases there is no attempt to be a “real girl” and humiliation is a driving force. When sissies refer to “being forced” it’s a game, an escape from the responsibility of making the choice. In reality no one is forced, its always about choices, however you seduce that space with various types of role-play. Unlike acting it’s a journey and that journey is what makes the whole scene exciting. As with any type of female domination roles are defined and there is a lot of mental stimulation. This happens almost ritualistically and through the growth of the relationship. Sure I can slip into role within minutes and my experience allows me to study my bottom and make the right choices for both of us. This is easy for a qualified professional that knows how to not only negotiate a scene in a concentrated time frame but can put the client into “space” pretty quickly. I’m sorry but I can count on both hands the women I know that are experts at this. So in most cases I would advise someone to “take the journey”, get to know one another and decide what type or relationship will suit you both. Now remember I’m talking about heavy scenes involving humiliation & degradation. I can rip you to peices IF you're ready for that and capable of extreme scenes IF the relationship is solid.


Obviously chemistry is a big factor for both parties. I’m not sexually turned on by a guy dressed like ballerina with ridiculous makeup, no attempt to do it right. I’m turned on by how and why it got that way and the things he does afterwards. I’m looking for the power rush and challenging my own emotional limits. Can I go against my moral grain and escape the feelings of pity and disgust to enjoy the power rush of control? That’s really what I’m striving for and my sissy is turned on by not only my journey with this but his own subjugation and to experience true submission to it.



8 times out of 10 a sissy is motivated by humiliation. That is what is sexually or psychologically driving him. That’s HIS high. Typically I won’t even consider playing with anyone until I’ve had them in training (online and by phone) for at least 3 months. I want to make sure they are emotionally sound and teach them to treat the experience constructively. Otherwise depression could sink in and the experience blows up in both of our faces. I also want it to be FUN. Something that excites both of us. Even after I build the relationship it continues where we are passing the envelope back and forth always checking our intentions.



I simply ask, “If you could paint the perfect picture for your ultimate fantasy, what would it be?”  I will then want details. “Why does such and such excites you? Is it sexual? Does it make you hard or is it emotional and if so, what kind of rush do you think it will give you?”  I want to know these things long before I even meet with them and then I want to explore them through fantasy long before we ever actually do anything.



Its real easy for a man to be selfish because he is so physically driven. You can argue this all you want but that is my firm belief. Until you teach him otherwise he will expect you to be the one that does all the work and enjoy doing it. I can’t go into HOW you teach him but if you study him, take the time and show him how to bring your pleasure then reinforce that, it completely changes the dynamic. This is definitely the case with a sissy. A lot of women are turned off by sissies because they can be drama queens and appear selfish only interested in what’s important to them. Most cases they just don’t know what you want. So I carefully listen to everything that’s important to them, what turns them on, etc. then I decide which parts I want to fit into my own needs. As nice as it would be to experience a man that automatically gives me what I need, this is never going to happen.



Maybe I’m not into strap-on play for the sake of fucking a man as much as I am over the rush of over powering & emasculating him. These  are the things I decide if they will fit into MY agenda and if my mastery as a dominant woman can maneuver it. IMO this is a superior element in women if they want this power because they are capable (and often do) manipulate the sexual scenario. I want to see how hardcore I can go and how I can bring my sissy along with me. Its not the dress, it’s the man and the process of emasculation and total submission. In his case this happens to be via sissification. Nothing strips manhood away more then this.



Its pretty easy to get down to it after you know someone. I have a simple formula that works for almost every slave/sissy.



“Do as I ask and deny me nothing. If  for some reason you can’t do it beg to be punished.”



I might want to lighten up a tense or nervous situation. I might ask the sissy to jump 50 feet into the air. Now that sissy had better try and when he sees that its impossible then he needs to beg to be punished. I might say, “Sissy whore I want you to go ask that guy if you can suck his cock.” it’s a complete stranger and I already know the sissy can’t do it but I want him to experience the teasing and rush of it. He might beg to be punished but I’ll persist saying its what I really want. So finally I say, “Ok you will be punished… put on your Cock Sucker T-shirt and go to the store.” Now he may or not be ready for that. We might go through a whole list of punishments and begging. This, to me, is part of the fun. I’m not a big fan of safe words unless you’re involved in BDSM- role play and mental play I like keeping it lighthearted and fun even when it becomes intense.



I know this is long winded and I hope I’shed a little light on the subject. it’s a certain type of woman that loves and appreciates a sissy. There are sissy maids, sissy dolls (dress up sissy) and sissy whores. Sometimes they can be a little of all. I love them all but the most important sissy tool of all is chastity.

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RE: Sissies' Acceptance Problem - 12/25/2007 12:25:47 PM   
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<Snip the whole thing because she said it all!>



I was going to leave this thread alone, because both the subject matter and the thread itself are difficult to grasp. But Dianna, I just had to respond to your wonderful post.

I mentioned upthread that my sub is a crossdresser. We've been together for a pretty fair amount of time, and he's not the first CD I've known. So I'm well familiar with the territory. Dianna, you summed it up beautifully.

In particular, I want to thank you for highlighting the importance of humiliation in playing with men who have gender issues (and gender issues are what any degree of transness is about). It simply amazes me how many people, trans folk included, don't recognize that humiliation is what drives them. And I'll heartily agree with you that playing on the psychological edge, which is what a man with gender issues needs, can be challenging for the Domme as well as the sub. I often have conversations with myself before, during, and after--I know what I want from him, but can I really face my own wanting?  Can I really demand that of him, and can I really follow through? It is edge play for both parties, with all the danger and excitement that entails.

Thanks again for an excellent and perceptive post.

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RE: Sissies' Acceptance Problem - 12/25/2007 12:59:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DiannaVesta

<Snip the whole thing because she said it all!>



I was going to leave this thread alone, because both the subject matter and the thread itself are difficult to grasp. But Dianna, I just had to respond to your wonderful post.

I mentioned upthread that my sub is a crossdresser. We've been together for a pretty fair amount of time, and he's not the first CD I've known. So I'm well familiar with the territory. Dianna, you summed it up beautifully.

In particular, I want to thank you for highlighting the importance of humiliation in playing with men who have gender issues (and gender issues are what any degree of transness is about). It simply amazes me how many people, trans folk included, don't recognize that humiliation is what drives them. And I'll heartily agree with you that playing on the psychological edge, which is what a man with gender issues needs, can be challenging for the Domme as well as the sub. I often have conversations with myself before, during, and after--I know what I want from him, but can I really face my own wanting?  Can I really demand that of him, and can I really follow through? It is edge play for both parties, with all the danger and excitement that entails.

Thanks again for an excellent and perceptive post.



Thank you.


I think that people need to remember, like BDSM where SM stresses the body via pain, stimulating the masochist, D/s forces the mind into uncharted areas. Fears are directly confronted & by adding sexuality it can give you a chance to truly own that fear.


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RE: Sissies' Acceptance Problem - 12/25/2007 1:24:45 PM   
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Dear Diana,
 
Thank you for a sharing your thoughts on this topic :)
 
RE your comment here:  Maybe I’m not into strap-on play for the sake of fucking a man as much as I am over the rush of over powering & emasculating him. These  are the things I decide if they will fit into MY agenda and if my mastery as a dominant woman can maneuver it. IMO this is a superior element in women if they want this power because they are capable (and often do) manipulate the sexual scenario. I want to see how hardcore I can go and how I can bring my sissy along with me. Its not the dress, it’s the man and the process of emasculation and total submission. In his case this happens to be via sissification. Nothing strips manhood away more then this.

Would it not be more humiliating to have him perform requests as a male.. using a male's societal humiliation by being male?  Each gender has their own definitions of machismo.. For a homophobic male..I'd have him wearing the cock-sucker t-shirt and visiting a gay bar..(actually what I've made him THINK is a gay bar with a wonderful lump stuffed his pants :) Not going to have my play intrude on another venue)  
 
It just irritates me for a male to think he has to be 'weak and feminine' to experience humiliation.  THAT's my issue with it. 
 
edited to reword my thought for clarity...

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RE: Sissies' Acceptance Problem - 12/25/2007 1:53:20 PM   
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Dear Diana,
 
Thank you for a sharing your thoughts on this topic :)
 
RE your comment here:  Maybe I’m not into strap-on play for the sake of fucking a man as much as I am over the rush of over powering & emasculating him. These  are the things I decide if they will fit into MY agenda and if my mastery as a dominant woman can maneuver it. IMO this is a superior element in women if they want this power because they are capable (and often do) manipulate the sexual scenario. I want to see how hardcore I can go and how I can bring my sissy along with me. Its not the dress, it’s the man and the process of emasculation and total submission. In his case this happens to be via sissification. Nothing strips manhood away more then this.

Would it not be more humiliating to have him perform requests as a male.. using a male's societal humiliation by being male?  Each gender has their own definitions of machismo.. For a homophobic male..I'd have him wearing the cock-sucker t-shirt and visiting a gay bar..(actually what I've made him THINK is a gay bar with a wonderful lump stuffed his pants :) Not going to have my play intrude on another venue)  
 
It just irritates me for a male to think he has to be 'weak and feminine' to experience humiliation.  THAT's my issue with it. 
 
edited to reword my thought for clarity...


Its all preference. I used that as an example. I also enjoy humiliating males who are not sissies. 


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RE: Sissies' Acceptance Problem - 12/25/2007 2:49:32 PM   
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Thank you for your very enlightening post, DiannaVesta.  I am even more disinterested in playing with sissies, if that is possible, but you have really explained a great deal about how a woman can be entertained by that kind of play.

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RE: Sissies' Acceptance Problem - 12/26/2007 4:01:45 AM   
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i also agree your post might help both sides understand more of this type of submisson and role play. im not passable as Female nor do i seek  too ever be or pass as Female.  for as long i can rember ive love the feeling of nylon and satins and i wore my frist panty at age 7 or 8 . and the feeling and the soft ness just grows on you maybe its as you state a mental feeling i will also say this is true for me since most of my day is spent working in the business world i dont have the feelings of submission until i ve gotten away form it all ..i cant speak for others on this but only for my self and i have noticed not as many other  sub type males have been posting on this ...that said i will tell you that wearing panties dose have a kinda of mellowing   me out  or the effect of giveing the  greater want to submitt but i can and would and could submitt with out it panty wearing but this fetish of mine is what let me into the D/s world  i wore long befoe i ever knew other where in to this and what opened my eyes that others likes and also did this was seeing and finding Magazines at adult book stores . of wich i think most of those are well overly done the magazines i mean so mayb just maybe this and seeing web sites of Mistress and the mental mind fucks and role play might push the sub into feeling or believing thsi is what most or many Mistress / Dommes are into ?  now i know you all respond by flaming me to death please dont i only stateing this as what i see as a submissive and not what others see or feel submitting should or would be. as for the humiliation hell yes its a driveing force in many submissves i will not deny that what so ever for the sub male i think most have placed the so called force lable on cd'ing or sissifying the male as a humiliation since the Macho guy would never be caught doing it LOL.. or the fact you mind fuck him with dildo suxing and telling him some day he would take a real ne ect .... if i ramballed on i sorry i never ment too but as the only sub male who seems too post here lately on this i just giveing the sub side but not ever subs cause i just dont know nor dose any what drives each sub Feamle or male .. please for give me if my speeling is off or not done rite ..

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RE: Sissies' Acceptance Problem - 12/26/2007 4:24:04 AM   
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DiannaVesta

i also agree your post might help both sides understand more of this type of submisson and role play. im not passable as Female nor do i seek  too ever be or pass as Female.  for as long i can rember ive love the feeling of nylon and satins and i wore my frist panty at age 7 or 8 . and the feeling and the soft ness just grows on you maybe its as you state a mental feeling i will also say this is true for me since most of my day is spent working in the business world i dont have the feelings of submission until i ve gotten away form it all ..i cant speak for others on this but only for my self and i have noticed not as many other  sub type males have been posting on this ...that said i will tell you that wearing panties dose have a kinda of mellowing   me out  or the effect of giveing the  greater want to submitt but i can and would and could submitt with out it panty wearing but this fetish of mine is what let me into the D/s world  i wore long befoe i ever knew other where in to this and what opened my eyes that others likes and also did this was seeing and finding Magazines at adult book stores . of wich i think most of those are well overly done the magazines i mean so mayb just maybe this and seeing web sites of Mistress and the mental mind fucks and role play might push the sub into feeling or believing thsi is what most or many Mistress / Dommes are into ?  now i know you all respond by flaming me to death please dont i only stateing this as what i see as a submissive and not what others see or feel submitting should or would be. as for the humiliation hell yes its a driveing force in many submissves i will not deny that what so ever for the sub male i think most have placed the so called force lable on cd'ing or sissifying the male as a humiliation since the Macho guy would never be caught doing it LOL.. or the fact you mind fuck him with dildo suxing and telling him some day he would take a real ne ect .... if i ramballed on i sorry i never ment too but as the only sub male who seems too post here lately on this i just giveing the sub side but not ever subs cause i just dont know nor dose any what drives each sub Feamle or male .. please for give me if my speeling is off or not done rite ..

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Thank you. I understand everything you mean. Still my mind woke up very playful and wicked.  I have a real twisted sense of humor sometimes. I turn things around in my head like little cartoons. Its not unusual to see me burst out in laughter. It drives my son nuts.


So I’m reading what you wrote and in my imagination I’m seeing a guy sneaking to wear panties then like crack, an addiction, it leads to other things; female domination, humiliation, just keeps getting caught in a downward spiral. Lol- damn I’m having a good time with that!



But in all seriousness… sexually people evolve. You can plant a simple seed and end up with a tree full of fruit. It really all depends on how your nurture it. The key is to keep it all balanced, healthy and plenty of light.



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RE: Sissies' Acceptance Problem - 12/26/2007 4:31:32 AM   
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I know this is long winded and I hope I’shed a little light on the subject. it’s a certain type of woman that loves and appreciates a sissy. There are sissy maids, sissy dolls (dress up sissy) and sissy whores. Sometimes they can be a little of all. I love them all but the most important sissy tool of all is chastity.

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Hi Dianna,
Great post! 
Regarding the last of the post, chastity, I couldn't agree more.  I have discovered, over the years, that not only chastity but it's reverse... excess (for those sissy whores) it is exquisity effective as well. All the games, bells and whistles but much much more then they ever bargained for!  Till they are begging for it to stop, then of course a critical push to ignore those pleas and continue on.  Is certainly one of those little mind f*cks that I enjoy inflicting on mine.

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RE: Sissies' Acceptance Problem - 12/26/2007 5:34:31 AM   
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Hi Dianna,
Great post! 
Regarding the last of the post, chastity, I couldn't agree more.  I have discovered, over the years, that not only chastity but it's reverse... excess (for those sissy whores) it is exquisity effective as well. All the games, bells and whistles but much much more then they ever bargained for!  Till they are begging for it to stop, then of course a critical push to ignore those pleas and continue on.  Is certainly one of those little mind f*cks that I enjoy inflicting on mine.

Cat



Oh damn... do tell. I have quite a collection of cock sucking whores. They never seem to get enough. I'm sorry but I love denial and how it makes them shake like crazy.


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RE: Sissies' Acceptance Problem - 12/26/2007 8:01:49 AM   
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I think Dianna Vesta has a good explanation of what turns us on. For me personally, it has nothing to do with downgrading women.

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RE: Sissies' Acceptance Problem - 12/26/2007 11:56:58 AM   
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... "being femnized" for [some] is more of a fetish that they use to decompress and relax. They usually go right back to being dominant malesonce they have achieved orgasm. The orgasm itself is important to look at also as many men get very masculine and very domininant once thy orgasm. That is why chastity devices are gaining in popularity.


Why would the male's orgasm and subsequent desire to go back to being his usual self be an issue? Unless he safewords, who cares what he wants? "I'm so glad you enjoyed your orgasm. Now, keep your pink dress on, sissy, and bring me some tea" works wonders for me.



Exactly !

Submission is submission. If a sissy is who you are ... than that's who you are. If you are a sissy and a submissive ... then you are a submissive who happens to be a sissy. If you are a Domme, you are always a Domme and being able to handle a sissy shouldn't be any problem.

Keeping a sissy feminized and submissive for extended periods, days or weeks, regarless of her ability to orgasm, or desire to dress, or desire to return to male status, is the true mark of serious and true Domme.

Just have fun and make sure the sissy knows she is to be, and remain, submissive, under ALL circumstances.

Neither a Woman nor a man is expected to be other than a Woman or man just because they are submissive. The same has to be true for the sissy. The sissy is who she is, submissive, vanilla, or anywhere. It is only the social male oriented prejudices that prohibits her from living her true self ... that the D/s enviroment has the courage, humanity and understanding to accept.  

I am really a sissy 24/7 whether I'm dressed or not. My feelings never change just because I'm in a suit. I still see a beautiful woman in a sensational outfit and have wonder if I'm more attracted to her, or what she is wearing ... and still want to ask her where she got her shoes! Only the D/s world lets me do as I feel, say what I think, and be myself.  Likewise, I'm submissive 24/7 ... please! It's just how I function at my best and truest and lets me feel vulnerable and protected, obedient and appreciated, humiliated and successful. 

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RE: Sissies' Acceptance Problem - 12/26/2007 4:40:54 PM   
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I'd like to give this discussion some context. See, it turns out that "Sissies' Acceptance Problem" in BDSM, simply reflects "Sissies' Acceptance Problem" in society as a whole. Here are a couple of really flagrant examples of society's transphobia. (1) Legislation recently considered in the U.S. would have barred certain types of discrimination that affects both gays and transfolk. However, the legislation specifically excluded transfolk. (2) There's an annual women's music festival in the U.S. that flat-out refuses to admit male-to-female musicians, although female-to-male musicians are welcome. Apparently, although it's no longer acceptable to flaunt prejudice against gays or blacks, there's something just really, intolerably, beyond the pale about people who violate the rule that boys will be (must be) boys. To sum up, transphobia is a real problem, here and everywhere else.

It's really too bad. But as I tell my kids when they won't eat guacamole--that leaves more for me!

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RE: Sissies' Acceptance Problem - 12/26/2007 5:18:53 PM   
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Submission is submission. If a sissy is who you are ... than that's who you are. If you are a sissy and a submissive ... then you are a submissive who happens to be a sissy. If you are a Domme, you are always a Domme and being able to handle a sissy shouldn't be any problem.   Being "able" and being "expected" to are two different things.  That was the original theme of this thread and thus what I was referring to as the "problem".  The problem is those that expect every domme to be into sissification and getting disappointed with the reality that not all are.

Keeping a sissy feminized and submissive for extended periods, days or weeks, regarless of her ability to orgasm, or desire to dress, or desire to return to male status, is the true mark of serious and true Domme?   You realize that is just YOUR definition of a Domme.
Just have fun and make sure the sissy knows she is to be, and remain, submissive, under ALL circumstances.  I do have the most fun when I do what I want and not what someone expects.

Neither a Woman nor a man is expected to be other than a Woman or man just because they are submissive. The same has to be true for the sissy. The sissy is who she is, submissive, vanilla, or anywhere. It is only the social male oriented prejudices that prohibits her from living her true self ... that the D/s enviroment has the courage, humanity and understanding to accept.   But for a male, such as yourself, not understanding how your fetish isn't attractive to all is acceptable?  A fetish is fine unless it becomes an obsession which isolates you.
 
I am really a sissy 24/7 whether I'm dressed or not. My feelings never change just because I'm in a suit. I still see a beautiful woman in a sensational outfit and have wonder if I'm more attracted to her, or what she is wearing ... and still want to ask her where she got her shoes! Only the D/s world lets me do as I feel, say what I think, and be myself.  Likewise, I'm submissive 24/7 ... please! It's just how I function at my best and truest and lets me feel vulnerable and protected, obedient and appreciated, humiliated and successful.  
 
Yet you can't do it as a man.  What is it you feel you you need to protect by acting female and defining it as "sissy"?  The word "sissy" as a description of femininity offends me as much as the "n" word.    Now, to me, it brings to mind visions Little Lord Fauntleroy or the Scarlet 'Pimpernel.  HORRORS!  MALE sissy icons???  They were pretty snappy dressers with frills, satin and laces :)  No one ever entertains those representations.. nope.. I wonder why.  Maybe guys don't want to trash their own gender?

Dianna.. you are welcome to all of them.

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RE: Sissies' Acceptance Problem - 12/26/2007 5:46:43 PM   
DiannaVesta


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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

Dianna.. you are welcome to all of them.


No problem. I'll take 'em!

Ok sissies line up for inspection. Show us what you got. The Goddess is starting a collection. Whores in one line, dolls in another and maids can serve the drinks.


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RE: Sissies' Acceptance Problem - 12/27/2007 2:08:15 PM   
MistressNoName


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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

MY THOUGHT: The reason this is a turn off for SOME mistresses is that while sissification is done in our venue, it's the Mistress' idea.. not the submissive's. THAT'S what makes it BDSM.

When the sissy comes already "dressed to the wiitwd party", there is nothing left for the Mistress to do really. She can't actually do forced feminization.. he already presents that he likes it. There are rare mistresses that enjoy just watching sissy prance about.. but is it really BDSM?

Tawk amoungst yourselves, discuss :)


Five (oops, 8) pages of posts just too much for me to go through, so forgive if this has already been stated.

As far as I understand this statement, I disagree, in general, because in my POV, depending on the type of party it is, I can think of lots to do with a sissy besides forced feminization, - and mind you, sissy play is not even my bag...but I could play with a sissy. That is to say, I'm not particularly turned on by CDs, am not interested in forced-femme, and actually do not like most of the fetishized sissy outfits out there, anyway...But I feel fine about playing/scening with a sissy and would be fine with having a CD doing household service say as a maid, as long as the uniform were a real uniform and not some ugly fetish french maid costume.

Of course, it's possible I've misunderstood the post altogether, kinda reads like it is a continuation of something I missed.

MNN

< Message edited by MistressNoName -- 12/27/2007 2:09:07 PM >


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RE: Sissies' Acceptance Problem - 12/28/2007 3:04:25 AM   
iwearpanties


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as  a sub male this subject has become very intresting over the last few pages of this posting more of you have stated your likes and dislikes of us  but honestly im dont see my self as a sissy maybe im more of a cding but then again maybe not . i feel the word sissy is use more as a form of a verbal put down  as for my self ima very masculine male but i love wearing panties and will wear other forms of femnale attire form hose / stcokings to bras ect . i dont fully dress nor do i pass a female how ever its not stopped me from enjoying it or knowing you Speical Ladys out there are into some of it to weather or not ist forced or pushed but the idea of playing and enjoying it all .. since no other males are posting right now i can only say for my self i not trying to degrade any Female hell i love you all  but  the panties n bras and being told or asked or you all aollowing a guy too wear dose help them come down a notch or two as male macho and more submissve   if i said this wrong plaes for give me but just my little take on this as a sub male whos fetish at young age form silky fabrics too the feel of a panty and its contorl. LOL   grew itno tyign and experiancing more thigns

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RE: Sissies' Acceptance Problem - 12/28/2007 7:13:24 AM   
Reigna


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You said it just fine. The only thing I can add is that when you find someone interested in you, let her know very early on about your crossdressing. You know perfectly well that it's a fact of your life, and isn't going away. As this thread demonstrates; as a quick scan of women's profiles on CM demonstrates; and as you undoubtedly knew anyway--some of us are tolerant of your femme side and even like it; but the great majority of people in general, let alone women, are strongly prejudiced against feminized men and won't accept you, no way, no how. Even though this greatly complicates your search, crossdressing and other forms of gender issues are not something to spring on a woman, Domme or otherwise, just as things are getting interesting, or god forbid in mid-relationship. Make your preferences clear up front, and screen accordingly. Good luck!

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