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Ruined orgasms - 11/15/2007 8:21:31 PM   
Aimtoplease101


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Status: offline 		Sorry for the inartful title, but it's someone else's phrase.

I ran across another discussion group that focused on ruined orgasms-- sort of a sub-species of tease and denial with a Femdom bent.   That naturally got me thinking of the users of this board, and made me wonder whether this is a practice any of you good folk engage in?

It seems to me to be a bit of an odd practice-- a lot of it consists of giving a hand job (or foot job or other limb or body part of fetishistic interest), which seems to be a bit of male fantasy fulfillment.  In the end, the guy is allowed to actually orgasm, in a sort of weak, dribbly way, as opposed to pure T&D in which he's kept on edge and unsatified, and which theoretically at least keeps him intently focused on serving his Domme and keeping her happy.  But because he is getting release (albeit not explosively) in a ruined orgasm situation, it doesn't seem to fulfill the same role of keeping him piqued and attentive that T&D does.  So a bit of "neither fish nor fowl" going on here.

Do you folks (question addressed both to Dommes and subs here) engage in this form of play?  If so, what do you enjoy about it (realizing that the subs might not actually enjoy it)?

Regards, ATP

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RE: Ruined orgasms - 11/15/2007 8:27:44 PM   
Youresomine


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Status: offline 		Hmmm...had not thought of that, but like the idea very much. Like a continuum of sorts with nothing, to T&D, to ruined orgasm, to pure explosion. I like it!

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RE: Ruined orgasms - 11/15/2007 8:53:31 PM   
lockmeupplease


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Status: offline 		Here is a link that illustrates several ways to ruin an orgasm http://www.taylorsteases.com/roguide/index.html

(I hope my Miss doesn't think I want one)

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RE: Ruined orgasms - 11/15/2007 10:29:02 PM   
CollegeConundrum


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RE: Ruined orgasms - 11/15/2007 10:40:20 PM   
Aimtoplease101


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Status: offline 		Although basically a clips for sale site, that was an interesting read.  Thanks for the link.  Still, however, it raises the question-- isn't this something in between T&D an a regular orgasm?  Kind of a half measure?

ATP

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RE: Ruined orgasms - 11/15/2007 11:04:06 PM   
rob425


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Status: offline 		One of the first girls that ever was into teasing and denying me, loved when this happened. It was never intentional oin either of our parts just that I could no longer hold it back no matter how hard I tried.It is so unsatisfying and a mood killer for me at least, I see that as punishment enough for cumming without permission

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RE: Ruined orgasms - 11/16/2007 1:08:25 AM   
spirit1975


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Status: offline 		Personally I have always found the ruined orgasm the worst as it is the sudden explosion of an orgasm which in less than a second is taken away and I am left with nothing which is far more frustrating for me than being kept in denial.....but that is just my opinion.

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RE: Ruined orgasms - 11/16/2007 4:06:38 AM   
MisPandora


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Status: offline 		Prostate milking does this, as does skillful anal penetration.  I've also used a rope tied around his masturbation hand, pulling it away when he's right about to release -- the ejaculate comes out, but it loses the power behind it.

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RE: Ruined orgasms - 11/16/2007 5:55:49 AM   
lateralist1


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Status: offline 		If you get it just right you can cause incredible pain in the head.
I know I'm a sadist.

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RE: Ruined orgasms - 11/16/2007 10:00:51 AM   
Aimtoplease101


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Status: offline 		Pain in the head?  Now that's a new twist.  How is the pain part inflicted from the ruined orgasm technique, if he actually does release?

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RE: Ruined orgasms - 11/16/2007 10:09:16 AM   
gregor2001us


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Status: offline 		For me its frustrating, but feeds my desire to be controled by my Domme, so i like it....in a frustrated way.

It also relieves some of my need....but not too much, leaving me hornier than if i had a good orgasm.


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RE: Ruined orgasms - 11/16/2007 10:35:33 AM   
MistressDolly


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aimtoplease101

Sorry for the inartful title, but it's someone else's phrase.

I ran across another discussion group that focused on ruined orgasms-- sort of a sub-species of tease and denial with a Femdom bent.   That naturally got me thinking of the users of this board, and made me wonder whether this is a practice any of you good folk engage in?

It seems to me to be a bit of an odd practice-- a lot of it consists of giving a hand job (or foot job or other limb or body part of fetishistic interest), which seems to be a bit of male fantasy fulfillment.  In the end, the guy is allowed to actually orgasm, in a sort of weak, dribbly way, as opposed to pure T&D in which he's kept on edge and unsatified, and which theoretically at least keeps him intently focused on serving his Domme and keeping her happy.  But because he is getting release (albeit not explosively) in a ruined orgasm situation, it doesn't seem to fulfill the same role of keeping him piqued and attentive that T&D does.  So a bit of "neither fish nor fowl" going on here.

Do you folks (question addressed both to Dommes and subs here) engage in this form of play?  If so, what do you enjoy about it (realizing that the subs might not actually enjoy it)?

Regards, ATP


I used to partake in this sort of torture. I enjoyed seeing him suffer in frustration as I distracted and hurried him along as he orgasmed. :)

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RE: Ruined orgasms - 11/16/2007 10:52:11 AM   
Imajican


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aimtoplease101
I ran across another discussion group that focused on ruined orgasms-- sort of a sub-species of tease and denial with a Femdom bent.   That naturally got me thinking of the users of this board, and made me wonder whether this is a practice any of you good folk engage in?

Yes. I've known two submissives who've been able to ruin their orgasms. The first is the one who told me about it and showed me how it was done. I've watched him do it up to five times in a row just to see the puddle get bigger and bigger. The second is my boy who has only recently tried and succeeded in doing this for me. He's also done it a few times in a row with the loose plan of having him do it as many times in a row as he is able, just to see what happens.

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In the end, the guy is allowed to actually orgasm, in a sort of weak, dribbly way, as opposed to pure T&D in which he's kept on edge and unsatified, and which theoretically at least keeps him intently focused on serving his Domme and keeping her happy.  But because he is getting release (albeit not explosively) in a ruined orgasm situation, it doesn't seem to fulfill the same role of keeping him piqued and attentive that T&D does.  So a bit of "neither fish nor fowl" going on here.

I've actually found that they stay just as horny and committed to the cause as they were prior to the dribbling. With my boy he has seemed to stay *very* driven towards wanting a real full orgasm as if he'd never ejaculated at all. He describes it as no different than edging. No relief or satisfaction. It's amazing because there's no flushing out of his mindset of horniness that there is when he's allowed a 'normal' orgasm.

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Do you folks (question addressed both to Dommes and subs here) engage in this form of play?  If so, what do you enjoy about it (realizing that the subs might not actually enjoy it)?

I consider it part of the mix. With my boy it's become a new avenue to explore so it's being explored more heavily at the moment. I don't know why the dribbly orgasms turn me on so much. It may be that it gives him cum to clean up without any satisfaction or lessening of how much his cock torments him. It adds this whole new element of figuring out what denial really is and how it can all be spun when he begs to come. I can tell him that he won't be allowed orgasm until a certain time or day and he'll beg to be allowed to ruin because at least that's something, even though he is only tormented further for being allowed that as it brings him so much closer to the point where he could have a real orgasm but alas, he's not allowed.

*purr*

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RE: Ruined orgasms - 11/16/2007 1:30:34 PM   
Aimtoplease101


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Status: offline 		I have to say that the comments here are making this practice seem a lot more interesting, and Femdom, than it seemed when this thread started.

ATP 

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RE: Ruined orgasms - 11/16/2007 11:26:04 PM   
SwPuno


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Status: offline 		I would imagine another way to ruin an orgasm, at least for me and probably others, would be to continue to stimulate the penis right after the orgasm.  My penis becomes very sensitive when I cum and thus this would become very uncomfortable very quickly and probably more than cancel out whatever joy I may have just experienced during the orgasm.  Perhaps if ruining is your intent you could combine the above by abandoning stimulation or contact as the orgasm starts, causing the "dribble effect" and then resume stimulation a few seconds later so you get the stimulation when it is not helpful and in fact very uncomfortable.



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RE: Ruined orgasms - 11/16/2007 11:26:20 PM   
onthenosetone


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Status: offline 		It happens once a fortnight in my household.....Ma'am uses it as an alternative to milking me....from my viewpoint it's exactly the same as a milking in term of i get nothing from it other than it clear my tubes out, however it's better than a milking in that Ma'am releases me from my chastity belt and actually touches me 

The real difference i guess and the advantage to all those beautiful Femdoms out there is a real orgasm affects to some extent and for a short period my submissiveness a ruined orgasm and i'm still deep in my DS zone and keen to please, serve, pamper and worship.....


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RE: Ruined orgasms - 11/17/2007 10:29:17 AM   
Imajican


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quote:

ORIGINAL: SwPuno

I would imagine another way to ruin an orgasm, at least for me and probably others, would be to continue to stimulate the penis right after the orgasm.  My penis becomes very sensitive when I cum and thus this would become very uncomfortable very quickly and probably more than cancel out whatever joy I may have just experienced during the orgasm.  Perhaps if ruining is your intent you could combine the above by abandoning stimulation or contact as the orgasm starts, causing the "dribble effect" and then resume stimulation a few seconds later so you get the stimulation when it is not helpful and in fact very uncomfortable.


The thing is, though, that (at least with the two boys I've done this with and gotten feedback from) there is no post-ejaculation discomfort. They can go right back into rubbing again as their cocks are still hard and they still *want* stimulation and 'real' orgasm. I know that which you speak of, however, since my spouse (who would not be doing the above as he hates being teased) is *very* sensitive post-ejaculation.

Ruining seems to be a whole different ballgame since the only thing that has happened that was expected as per a, shall we say, "traditional" orgasm, is that fluid has exited the penis. I find it quite remarkable that a man can therefore ejaculate and still be raring to go for more.

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RE: Ruined orgasms - 11/17/2007 12:11:52 PM   
Mlicious


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Status: offline 		I see it a couple of ways, depending on how I'd use it. On the one hand, the orgasm, no matter how unsatisfying, is still dependant on when, how and under what circumstances I grant it. I make my pet suffer for quite a while before I grant him a release anyway. Then, the added factor and humilation of a ruined orgasm is all the more wicked, because, I have granted him an orgasm, but it will not be satisfying.

I have not tried these techniques, this form of T & D is new to me, but I certainly intend to try it (my poor pet). I do wonder, what, if any effect a ruined orgasm will have on his desire to serve me. I will share anything I find out about that.  

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ORIGINAL: Aimtoplease101

Sorry for the inartful title, but it's someone else's phrase.

I ran across another discussion group that focused on ruined orgasms-- sort of a sub-species of tease and denial with a Femdom bent.   That naturally got me thinking of the users of this board, and made me wonder whether this is a practice any of you good folk engage in?

It seems to me to be a bit of an odd practice-- a lot of it consists of giving a hand job (or foot job or other limb or body part of fetishistic interest), which seems to be a bit of male fantasy fulfillment.  In the end, the guy is allowed to actually orgasm, in a sort of weak, dribbly way, as opposed to pure T&D in which he's kept on edge and unsatified, and which theoretically at least keeps him intently focused on serving his Domme and keeping her happy.  But because he is getting release (albeit not explosively) in a ruined orgasm situation, it doesn't seem to fulfill the same role of keeping him piqued and attentive that T&D does.  So a bit of "neither fish nor fowl" going on here.

Do you folks (question addressed both to Dommes and subs here) engage in this form of play?  If so, what do you enjoy about it (realizing that the subs might not actually enjoy it)?

Regards, ATP

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RE: Ruined orgasms - 11/17/2007 12:48:14 PM   
slavekal


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Status: offline 		I would imagine it could have some effect.  IF an orgasm is a reward, and the reward is no good, then I suppose motivation could suffer.  Like if you got paid in Confederate money.

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RE: Ruined orgasms - 11/17/2007 3:55:15 PM   
MasterFireMaam


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Status: offline 		I'd say they're taking the long road around to ruin things. With most guy, all you have to do is mention their parents having sex and down it goes.

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