slavegirljoy
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ORIGINAL: slavegirljoy In 1998, she begged him to serve him, "with no limitations." "I am begging to serve you Sir, completely, with no limitations." Blah. To me the above sounds like a clueless person who is attracted to another clueless person. This sounds like a reasonable assessment, since it was reported that she was searching the Internet for information about BDSM when she met Marcus in an AOL chatroom. Sometime in 1998, a woman named Jodi started hunting for information about what's known as BDSM--bondage, dominance/discipline, submission/sadism and masochism--and found Marcus in an AOL chat room. He went by the screen name "GMYourGod" and demanded absolute obedience. http://www.news.com/Police-Blotter-Bondage-Webmaster-fights-abuse-conviction/2100-1030_3-6185920.html?tag=item quote:
Anyone who comes to me claiming that she/he will have no limitations strikes me immediately as a fool or someone whose head is stuck in fantasy and unable or unwilling to deal with reality. Anyone who accepts such a person is equally guilty then when reality kicks in and limitations become apparent. And, that's probably why we aren't reading news reports of thetammyjo being convicted of sex trafficking and forced labor. You clearly have a good head on your shoulders. To me, this case should be a very clear warning to any Master, who believes his slave when she says that she wants to serve him with no limitations. That's all well and good, so long as the slave is going along with it. But, if, at some point, she changes her mind and decides to go to the cops and tell them, "he did this" and "he did that", the Master is likely to end up with a legal fight on his hands where he may have a tough time proving his innocence, especially when the 'abuse' is well documented in pictures. i still feel that, if he had removed the pictures from his website, she wouldn't have gone to the feds and there wouldn't have been a trial or conviction. They didn't live together during their 3-year relationship. She lived with another slave of his in another state and he only visited them 'occasionally'. She could have left any time. After all, there was no mention of the other slave keeping Jodi there against her will and the other slave hasn't filed any complaint against Marcus about keeping her there, against her will. And, Jodi didn't go to the cops until more than 2 years after the relationship ended and then, only after he refused to remove her pictures from his website. Look, i don't know these people and can only go by what was reported in the news. But, it doesn't seem to me that this was a case of a Master abusing his slave. It sounds more like this was the first D/s relationship that this woman had been in and after 3 years she decided to get out and, she didn't want her pictures up on his website any more and she got mad at him when he wouldn't oblige her wishes. So, she went to the cops. Of course, i could be totally wrong about this. But, this is the impression i get from what i have read. Later that year (1998), Jodi traveled to Maryland to meet Marcus and a fellow sex slave named Joanna. He whipped Jodi, with her consent, and carved the word "slave" on her stomach with a knife. The next month, she sent a petition to Marcus saying in part: "I am begging to serve you Sir, completely, with no limitations." In January 1999, Jodi moved to Maryland to live with Joanna, and Marcus would regularly visit them from his home on Long Island. Occasionally the BDSM-and-sex sessions became severe. Many of these incidents were photographed and uploaded to SlaveSpace.com, which Jodi spent much of her time updating, including writing diaries for the site. She referred to herself as "pooch" or "poochie" and wrote lengthy, rambling essays saying things like: "i need to serve Him, to please Him. i not only want to, i need to. i feel this so deeply, every single part of me feels this." After Marcus would not remove the photos from the Internet (he claimed to have a valid model release), Jodi contacted the FBI. Federal prosecutors charged Marcus with sex trafficking, forced labor and dissemination of obscene materials through an interactive computer service. http://www.news.com/Police-Blotter-Bondage-Webmaster-fights-abuse-conviction/2100-1030_3-6185920.html?tag=item Whatever their relationship was, it's clear from the news accounts that it did end. And, like i stated before, "As far as i'm concerned, consent is given when people enter into a mutually voluntary Master/slave relationship and it ends when the relationship ends." Any consent given lasts only as long as the relationship lasts. quote:
Everyone needs to be trained to be powerful enough to say "this stops now" though and we need to also realize that none of us are mind readers so unless you state it, you can't claim "you should have known" as an excuse. We should also be trained from earliest days to stop lying and playing games and be more honest. That's a very good idea but, it really boils down to the personal integrity of the individuals involved. That's why i have continually stated that it's not as important to find out what each other's 'limits' are as it is to find out what each other's character is. After all, if someone has little or no integrity, stating your limits and having them agreed to is very likely to end up being an exercise in futility and give nothing more than a false sense of security. A contract isn't worth the paper it's printed on, if either of the people signing it don't have the personal integrity to abide by it. slave joy Owned property of Master David
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