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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/29/2008 2:50:55 PM

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We hash this over every few weeks or so. Does it matter? I'm 43... I don't care how mature a 21 year old is, I'll probably never take them as seriously as someone who has simply seen more in their lifetime. Do they think I'm old and jaded? Probably.

Cali

If you were 18 again you would look at the 21 year old a lot differently....

I am surprised that there are those who think that one can be an adequate care provider, but not master another person. My mom was 18 when she got married and started reproducing, she was more masterful than any master that I have seen posting here...

Edited to add, my mom could silence any of us with just a look... talk about knowing how to dominate us

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/29/2008 2:53:26 PM

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Julia... don't even get me started on young mothers. I've seen way too much that breaks my heart. Of course there are plenty that do well... but we're talking generally about young men here, are we not? Young fathers (big fat generalization - lots of exceptions) usually don't raise young children.

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/29/2008 2:53:31 PM

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It is a Big responsebility, to call yourself a Master/Mistress, and to be really able to guide someone, which is the task You take upon Yourself being a Master/Mistress.

Big responsibility == big font, is that it?

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/29/2008 2:53:45 PM

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I'm sorry, but I can't take anyone seriously who spells things out like 'Thanx' and 'grinz' and so forth, I don't care how old you are.

-Brian.

You judge a person on 2 words? mmm
OF course you can dislike.....but this sounded agressive lol

Ah the barrier of text, it wasn't meant to be aggressive. More like a brow loft. I know people can type however they please but when you agrue that age is how you define maturity and then type out words that irk me...it's really hard for me to take the argument in question seriously. And I must admit as a 22 year old brat I scoff at being labeled by my age. Nothing I can do but wait for this big sphere of the Earth to go around the Sun a few more times.

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/29/2008 2:57:24 PM

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Julia... don't even get me started on young mothers. I've seen way too much that breaks my heart. Of course there are plenty that do well... but we're talking generally about young men here, are we not? Young fathers (big fat generalization - lots of exceptions) usually don't raise young children.

Cali

A lot of young men work their asses off to provide shelter for young families....

My own brother was 19 when he started his brood, his exwife was 28, she abandoned her family and left him holding the bag....Men are just as loving, caring, interested in being good role models as women are. To think otherwise is sexist in my mind. I have seen too many men that sacrificed every bit as much as I have to think differently

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/29/2008 2:59:11 PM

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We didn't just spring into being at 21. It is possible to have years of experince in something before 21. I had 6 years of sexual experince before turning 21.

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If they are 21 and have 8+ years experience i will second guess them. .

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/29/2008 3:02:37 PM

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Age is not the issue.
Maturity and knowledge of self is.

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/29/2008 3:03:43 PM

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Working to provide shelter does not equal raising caring, thoughtful, compassionate, productive human beings. It means they have a roof over their head and hopefully food and clothing, etc. It's room and board, not raising people.

As I said there are exceptions, and yes, my views are sexist. It's great that your brother did that. In my world, it's the exception not the rule. Maybe your world is different, and if so, great.

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/29/2008 3:05:49 PM

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Unless my math is off, someone who is 21 has 21 years of living under their belt.

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We didn't just spring into being at 21. It is possible to have years of experince in something before 21. I had 6 years of sexual experince before turning 21.
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If they are 21 and have 8+ years experience i will second guess them. .

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/29/2008 3:07:53 PM

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Unless my math is off, someone who is 21 has 21 years of living under their belt.

One can only hope, lol.

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/29/2008 3:11:41 PM

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Working to provide shelter does not equal raising caring, thoughtful, compassionate, productive human beings. It means they have a roof over their head and hopefully food and clothing, etc. It's room and board, not raising people.

To put it mildly, what a crock!

Roof over the head and food in the belly are steps one and two towards raising "productive" people. If the parents don't take those responsibilities to heart, the rest is a lost cause.

Arguing otherwise isn't sexist. It's silly.

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/29/2008 3:13:50 PM

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<taken out to avoid the whole thread getting yanked>

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/29/2008 3:20:27 PM

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*shrug* Get to know them, then make a decision. I know some 21 year olds who are WAY more mature than most of the 40 year olds I know. I know some 21 year olds who take the BDSM craft seriously and are good at what they do. I do concede that finding both of these as well as real self awareness and good relationships skills IS hard to find in someone that age. But then I feel finding those four things in ANYone is difficult.

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/29/2008 3:22:08 PM

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i get a lot of emails from 20 something year olds. i couldnt submit to one, much less take Him seriously. this is just for me. everyone has their own comfort and standing,yes2

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/29/2008 3:24:19 PM

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edited out as well....

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/29/2008 3:33:29 PM

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Julia... don't even get me started on young mothers. I've seen way too much that breaks my heart. Of course there are plenty that do well... but we're talking generally about young men here, are we not? Young fathers (big fat generalization - lots of exceptions) usually don't raise young children.

Cali

A lot of young men work their asses off to provide shelter for young families....

My own brother was 19 when he started his brood, his exwife was 28, she abandoned her family and left him holding the bag....Men are just as loving, caring, interested in being good role models as women are. To think otherwise is sexist in my mind. I have seen too many men that sacrificed every bit as much as I have to think differently

Just to put my 2 cents in here

Im 21, I make over 30K a year (starting Thursday) Im in college and am a father... I started providing for myself at the age of 10...
With that in mind, do I think most 21 year olds could so much as dominate a gerbil? no, but some can

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/29/2008 3:35:46 PM

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There are 20-year-olds I would trust enough to begin a relationship with.
There are 40-year-olds I wouldn't trust to pick up my mail.
Age may be a factor in maturity and common sense but it isn't the determining factor.

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/29/2008 3:42:20 PM

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Is it unthinkable to respect a person as a 'Master/Dom/etc' but not want them for YOUR 'Master/Dom/Etc'? I think so. I can respect a Master/Dom/Etc without wanting them to be MY Master/Dom/Etc. Would you want a 21 Master with limited experience for yourself? Maybe. Maybe not. But you can still respect the person and not pass down judgement that they are UNWORTHY just because you wouldn't submit to them.

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/29/2008 3:42:34 PM

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In much the same way as someone of any other age can!

Master is, what Master does.

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/29/2008 3:47:27 PM

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Hello... this makes my first post and to me its like this... Age is a number nothing more... I am 25 years old.. my life experience not a lot... I had to start caring for my brother when I was 10 years old... He was 16 with Epolepsy... when we would go out to the pool or something my parents wouldn't say to my brother to look out for me... no it was Living look out for your Brother...

Some people have absolutely no life experience.. Thats fine... but to tell me because I haven't lived 30 years theres no way that I could have the knowledge to care for someone else? I've been doin it since I was 10 years old in one way or another.

Some kids become men and women of the house very early for one reason or another... sure they haven't went to work or traveled or had sex... but they grow up fast when life changes for them.

I myself don't take myself as a Master. A submissive makes you a Master no one else.

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