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Did you or did you not?? Only YOU know for sure because... - 2/5/2008 11:23:00 AM   
parttimehotty


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Status: offline 		i was reading the link below entitled "Slavegirl's orgasmic abstinence by free will" and didn't want to hijack that thread w/this question, so voila, here i am.  Now using this thread as an example, how many of you would actually NOT wait, but say that you did?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_1597331/tm.htm

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RE: Did you or did you not?? Only YOU know for sure bec... - 2/5/2008 11:26:03 AM   
Shawn1066


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Status: offline 		I don't think this question is centered around my actual demographic, but I wait until I have my Owner's permission to orgasm.  Always.

I never have to go a very long period of time either, because if I did, there's something wrong.  There's really no legitimate reason to deny me an orgasm for too long.  We both enjoy it too much and it doesn't effect my submissiveness or my service at all.

DV's Fox


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RE: Did you or did you not?? Only YOU know for sure bec... - 2/5/2008 11:30:56 AM   
parttimehotty


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ORIGINAL: Shawn1066

I don't think this question is centered around my actual demographic, but I wait until I have my Owner's permission to orgasm.  Always.

I never have to go a very long period of time either, because if I did, there's something wrong.  There's really no legitimate reason to deny me an orgasm for too long.  We both enjoy it too much and it doesn't effect my submissiveness or my service at all.

DV's Fox



Understood, but to elaborate on the question further, what if your Dom wanted to amuse themselves by humiliating you and having you wear your underwear drenched w/their cum  to work. The Dom left for work before you did....would you change your underwear but give the impression that you did wear the crusty underwear all day?

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RE: Did you or did you not?? Only YOU know for sure bec... - 2/5/2008 11:34:56 AM   
CalifChick


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Status: offline 		I wouldn't be deceiving anyone that way, so the underwear would be worn.  I have no desire to take part in that deception.

After all, wouldn't feel that much different than it does after a quickie on my desk.  I mean, if I did that sort of thing.  I mean, not that I would know.  I mean, ummm, what was I saying again?

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RE: Did you or did you not?? Only YOU know for sure bec... - 2/5/2008 11:36:23 AM   
toservez


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Status: offline 		I would never lie about this because otherwise what is the point really. A common punishment for me is no orgasms for a certain amount of time but that is always in days not months.

To me it is a compatibility issue. I would not be trained or be with someone that practiced this. I have zero issues with those who do this from both roles and do understand the dynamic that is used. I am just saying if my Master told me my next orgasm was slated five months from now, I would just laugh and walk out the door. For me personally it would simply violate my trust that he cares for me and wants me to be happy.


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RE: Did you or did you not?? Only YOU know for sure bec... - 2/5/2008 11:37:09 AM   
atursvcMaam


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Status: offline 		   Interesting concept.  i have been requested to explain the fantasy that was involved, but not denied unless i was expected to be used within a fairly short amount of time. (hours, not weeks or months).
   Devotion can be more obviously demonstrated in so many ways.

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RE: Did you or did you not?? Only YOU know for sure bec... - 2/5/2008 11:43:34 AM   
toservez


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quote:

ORIGINAL: parttimehotty

quote:

ORIGINAL: Shawn1066

I don't think this question is centered around my actual demographic, but I wait until I have my Owner's permission to orgasm.  Always.

I never have to go a very long period of time either, because if I did, there's something wrong.  There's really no legitimate reason to deny me an orgasm for too long.  We both enjoy it too much and it doesn't effect my submissiveness or my service at all.

DV's Fox



Understood, but to elaborate on the question further, what if your Dom wanted to amuse themselves by humiliating you and having you wear your underwear drenched w/their cum  to work. The Dom left for work before you did....would you change your underwear but give the impression that you did wear the crusty underwear all day?


To answer more on theory then example like this explains, no I would never lie through omission. I am committed to our relationship and the dynamic fully. To do even one thing like that to me becomes a slippery slope. Instead of the focus of obeying I could see where it could quickly become if he cannot tell do I really want or need to do this.

Many of these things might not have a direct benefit for one or the other but the accumulative effect of obeying has an absolute positive impact in making it much easier to obey without hesitation or irrelevant questioning.


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RE: Did you or did you not?? Only YOU know for sure bec... - 2/5/2008 11:45:43 AM   
Shawn1066


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quote:

ORIGINAL: parttimehotty

quote:

ORIGINAL: Shawn1066

I don't think this question is centered around my actual demographic, but I wait until I have my Owner's permission to orgasm.  Always.

I never have to go a very long period of time either, because if I did, there's something wrong.  There's really no legitimate reason to deny me an orgasm for too long.  We both enjoy it too much and it doesn't effect my submissiveness or my service at all.

DV's Fox



Understood, but to elaborate on the question further, what if your Dom wanted to amuse themselves by humiliating you and having you wear your underwear drenched w/their cum  to work. The Dom left for work before you did....would you change your underwear but give the impression that you did wear the crusty underwear all day?


Alright, if my Domme wanted me to do that, then I would do that.  Even if it was during one of the few days she'd never see me to confirm it personally.  I would still do it.  Why?

If I don't take the dynamic seriously, then I don't feel as if I'm giving my all to the relationship.  That's how we work, and if I don't honor the dynamic...then it's just as bad as cheating. 

Also, it'd probably be kind of arousing after I got back the utter ick factor.

DV's Fox


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RE: Did you or did you not?? Only YOU know for sure bec... - 2/5/2008 12:06:59 PM   
parttimehotty


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Shawn1066

quote:

ORIGINAL: parttimehotty

quote:

ORIGINAL: Shawn1066

I don't think this question is centered around my actual demographic, but I wait until I have my Owner's permission to orgasm.  Always.

I never have to go a very long period of time either, because if I did, there's something wrong.  There's really no legitimate reason to deny me an orgasm for too long.  We both enjoy it too much and it doesn't effect my submissiveness or my service at all.

DV's Fox



Understood, but to elaborate on the question further, what if your Dom wanted to amuse themselves by humiliating you and having you wear your underwear drenched w/their cum  to work. The Dom left for work before you did....would you change your underwear but give the impression that you did wear the crusty underwear all day?


Alright, if my Domme wanted me to do that, then I would do that.  Even if it was during one of the few days she'd never see me to confirm it personally.  I would still do it.  Why?

If I don't take the dynamic seriously, then I don't feel as if I'm giving my all to the relationship.  That's how we work, and if I don't honor the dynamic...then it's just as bad as cheating. 

Also, it'd probably be kind of arousing after I got back the utter ick factor.

DV's Fox



No specific reason, i was just wondering if anyone would ever admit to sinking to such a low as to commit the lie of ommission.  Nice to know there are honest folks out there!

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RE: Did you or did you not?? Only YOU know for sure bec... - 2/5/2008 12:47:45 PM   
YourhandMyAss


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Status: offline 		I think there's worse things you can do than lie by act of ommision. I don't lie to him in anyway, by omission or by out right act, but it's not the lowest thing I could do in our relationship if I ever did.



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No specific reason, i was just wondering if anyone would ever admit to sinking to such a low as to commit the lie of ommission.  Nice to know there are honest folks out there!

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RE: Did you or did you not?? Only YOU know for sure bec... - 2/5/2008 12:52:11 PM   
OmegaG


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ORIGINAL: YourhandMyAss

I think there's worse things you can do than lie by act of ommision. I don't lie to him in anyway, by omission or by out right act, but it's not the lowest thing I could do in our relationship if I ever did.



quote:



No specific reason, i was just wondering if anyone would ever admit to sinking to such a low as to commit the lie of ommission.  Nice to know there are honest folks out there!



My sister feels the same way, did feel the same way when she omitted parts of her stories to our parents when she knew that it was a part that would get her in trouble-- her reasoning was if they didn't ask specifically then it wasn't a lie.

I prefer to confess a mistake before I get to the asking part.  Not only don't I lie by ommission but when this happened, I didn't.

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RE: Did you or did you not?? Only YOU know for sure bec... - 2/5/2008 1:11:55 PM   
ProlificNeeds


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Status: offline 		I may not be able to complete the task, or it may be too much for me, but I wouldn't lie about it. I'd try my best until it was clear it wasn't enough, and then just say so. My partners don't like to set me up for failure or true unhappiness, if they were inclined to do so, I would have no need to be with them at all.

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RE: Did you or did you not?? Only YOU know for sure bec... - 2/5/2008 1:19:33 PM   
littleone35


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Status: offline 		If i did not obey i would not keep it from him.  Even if i wanted to he would see the guilt in my eyes.  I would tell him i did not do whatever and take the punishment.  To lie to him about doing it would only compound the punishment whan he found out about the lie and he would.

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RE: Did you or did you not?? Only YOU know for sure bec... - 2/5/2008 1:24:02 PM   
fullofgrace69


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Status: offline 		i wouldnt do somethiing like wear the underweaar to work because i dont do =anything= at work i work with young children and feel it is inappropriate (in my opinion).and i wuldnt be with a Dom that wanted that. however during the weekends holidays, yes i wuld if he wanted. wots the point if u dont do things asked of you?

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RE: Did you or did you not?? Only YOU know for sure bec... - 2/5/2008 1:40:35 PM   
littlesui


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Status: offline 		I have always done as instructed - like someone else said - if you don't what's the point?  Having said that I have been know to take liberties ;o).  I was once out with my (former) Dom and he kept making me drink pints of lemonade / cola whatever.  He then told me to go to the bathroom, remove my panties and then bring them back to him, comme ça, so it was apparent to anyone that cared to look that I was carrying my panties.  I did as instructed but took the opportunity to go to the loo.  When I returned he asked me what I had done.....and then if I had had a pee LOL. Well I couldn't lie if my life depended on it!  The punishment was...'memorable'!!  

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RE: Did you or did you not?? Only YOU know for sure bec... - 2/5/2008 1:45:19 PM   
candigirrl


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Status: offline 		I would tell the truth.    

unless he was lying to me

then I might still tell the truth



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RE: Did you or did you not?? Only YOU know for sure bec... - 2/5/2008 1:58:22 PM   
sweetwenchie


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Status: offline 		i would not and could not lie about it.  i might beg and whine for release, but if the answer was no, then i no it is.    Lying would never be part of any dynamic i was involved in.   Not on my end of the relationship... 

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RE: Did you or did you not?? Only YOU know for sure bec... - 2/5/2008 3:01:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		The one or two times I have done something wrong I have confessed the first chance I got myself, because I can't keep secrets and it ate me up to think of keeping something big frm him, but it's still not the worst thing I could do.
quote:

ORIGINAL: OmegaG

quote:

ORIGINAL: YourhandMyAss

I think there's worse things you can do than lie by act of ommision. I don't lie to him in anyway, by omission or by out right act, but it's not the lowest thing I could do in our relationship if I ever did.



quote:



No specific reason, i was just wondering if anyone would ever admit to sinking to such a low as to commit the lie of ommission.  Nice to know there are honest folks out there!



My sister feels the same way, did feel the same way when she omitted parts of her stories to our parents when she knew that it was a part that would get her in trouble-- her reasoning was if they didn't ask specifically then it wasn't a lie.

I prefer to confess a mistake before I get to the asking part.  Not only don't I lie by ommission but when this happened, I didn't.

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RE: Did you or did you not?? Only YOU know for sure bec... - 2/5/2008 3:43:31 PM   
littlebitxxx


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Status: offline 		Honesty is always the best policy.  Not doing what I'm told, even though he isn't right there beside me, is lying - to myself and to him.  Couldn't do it.  Never mind I have a glass face and can't lie worth shit anyway.  To my mind, you're in this type of relationship for a reason;  if you sabotage it with little "I'm not gonna doit and he won't ever know", it really isn't a meaningful relationship to begin with.

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RE: Did you or did you not?? Only YOU know for sure bec... - 2/5/2008 3:50:25 PM   
TracyTaken


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