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ORIGINAL: Kalista07

Perhaps, this is the crux of the reason i'm having difficulty relating to this thread...This was not my experience.

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ORIGINAL: Suzykeu

As for women competing with eachother more than men, i just don't think that's true. It seems to me that it's just a different way of competing; guys work to make themselves look good and women just go beyond that to make others look bad.

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

But breasts don't always show at the same time and unlike cocks, you can't hide them away.  Women have style and beauty thrust upon them.  Periods are a status symbol.
 
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Ohhhhhh Toservez, never would I say I don't have issues.........I have ISSUES!

As an aside, I wonder if anyone of a.......more advancing age such as myself...... would agree that these tendencies have lessened with time. That in becoming more confident and happy with yourself you find the need to snark at other women, even those you do not particularly care for.....less? That it's just sort of a "oh whatever" in your head, rather than the burning desire to go on full out attack?

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol
Do you think women are defined by their biology more than by society's expectations of them?

As for the makeup and all that, ABSOLUTELY. I'm a total victim of it myself, although I never paid much attention to those things until I was about 25. Now that I'm getting older, I FEAR the signs of ageing, whilst my brother and other youngish males don't even think about it.

They got me, in the end.

 
As for makeup, I find that at (nearly) 38, makeup is less important to me now, but then I tend to keep being told I don't look my age, so I have that advantage.  So the question then is - am I ok with wearing no make up because of me, or am I influenced by being told I look ok without it?  Couldn't answer that myself.
Mind, I am a glitter whore.
 
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ORIGINAL: Sweetbluerose

As someone who has spent a lifetime with the canine species, I hate it when people choose to describe human characteristics as being a bitch or bitchy or bitching.

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ORIGINAL: Sweetbluerose

As someone who has spent a lifetime with the canine species, I hate it when people choose to describe human characteristics as being a bitch or bitchy or bitching.
Canine females, the only true bitches in my opinion,  are hardwired to be great mothers, and most are great pack members, whether of a canine pack or of  a human pack.
Dogs raised in good environments are loyal, happy, eager to please, and altogether wonderful creatures.
While I also admire women, and think that many also characterise those attributes, it isn't the good in women that is describe as bitchy or being a bitch but rather characteristics that dog bitches don't really have.
Personally calling me a bitch, is taken by me as a compliment.
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ORIGINAL: Lashra

So no we aren't born to be bitches, society has a way of teaching us to be that way. With some of us that idea takes root in others it does not. (...)

~Lashra

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ORIGINAL: Lashra

No. Some women feel the need to compete for a man because society has made them feel this way. Aren't we all taught as young girls to go after the rich man? I know my Mother did her best to drive that through my head. This leads to competition and heavy competition at that. This is why women are so jealous and so possessive of a man, they are afraid someone might steal their meal ticket. Because back in the old days a woman wasn't allowed to work or own property, she was nothing but chattel so having a man was important otherwise you ended up out on the street beggingor in a nunnery. Who wants to be a homeless beggar? No one.

So no we aren't born to be bitches, society has a way of teaching us to be that way. With some of us that idea takes root in others it does not. I chose to ignore my Mothers "teachings" and to do my own thing which has helped me to lead a much happier and fulfilling life.

~Lashra

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ORIGINAL: Suzykeu

i've rarely felt competitive against other women, but it's probably because women are what i looked for in a signifigant other. i don't have to compete with the 'object of my desire.'

As for women competing with eachother more than men, i just don't think that's true. It seems to me that it's just a different way of competing; guys work to make themselves look good and women just go beyond that to make others look bad.

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Although more than 16 years have passed, Rhodes Scholar Simmons hasn't forgotten how she felt when Abby told the other girls in third grade not to play with her, nor has she stopped thinking about her own role in giving Noa the silent treatment. Simmons examines how such "alternative aggression" where girls use their relationship with the victim as a weapon flourishes and its harmful effects. Through interviews with more than 300 girls in 10 schools (in two urban areas and a small town), as well as 50 women who experienced alternative aggression when they were young, Simmons offers a detailed portrait of girls' bullying. Citing the work of Carol Gilligan and Lyn Mikel Brown, she shows the toll that alternative aggression can take on girls' self-esteem. For Simmons, the restraints that society imposes to prevent girls from venting feelings of competition, jealousy and anger is largely to blame for this type of bullying. It forces girls to turn their lives into "a perverse game of Twister," where their only outlets for expressing negative feelings are covert looks, turned backs and whispers. Since the events at Columbine, some schools have taken steps to curb relational aggression. For those that haven't, Simmons makes an impassioned plea that no form of bullying be permitted.

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