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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 7:52:45 AM   
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Sexual Offences (Amendment) Act 2000 

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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 7:54:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: breatheasone

I think she means that you because you were 16 at the time you started your relationship with him wouldn't be cool with us "mom" types....


yes, I can't tell you what I'd do to a man who is in my dating range dating my daughter, especially when she was a minor.

I've got a daughter who is just a bit older then the OP and I think I may understand some of her insecurities, it's an age when self awareness and confidence in relationships is still being formed.  I'm not saying that having a relationship with an older man isn't going to work, but he has to be mindful of her relationship maturity level too.  I'm hoping that he doesn't think that because of her age she's more plyable and more easily manipulated to accept his behaviour.

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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 8:02:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: bislavegirl4434

Ah, then you 'mum' types wouldn't be impressed to know i met him while i was 15, only when i turned 16 did he show me his dominant side though.

CelticPrince... please email me your thoughts. I'm curious as to why you think only 6months!


Quite frankly, us "dad" types aren't impressed by that either....

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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 8:04:33 AM   
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To me, how a person treats their ex says a lot about them as does what sort of person their past partners are. 

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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 8:06:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		If I'm reading that link right, poen, if she engaged in any sexual activity including pictures or web cam prior to her 18 birthday they did, indeed, break the law under the new act as they were not/are not now married to our knowledge. 

However reading legalize is not my strong point...and it tends to result in severe headaches and the urge to scream at people 'for **&& sake, put it in clear english'

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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 8:10:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BlackPhx

Cool I was going by this for the UK
Sexual Offences (Amendment) Act 2000 

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Hi poen.
I believe you will find that is an amendment to the homosexual laws.
Just an edit to add a FAQ  to explain and make the legaleze easier to understand.
 
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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 8:11:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		to quote (from the legal thingy)  "if he is in a position of trust in relation to that person" I believe that means that if a teacher etc sleeps with someone under that age not a general adult, but then as silvermuse said I cant read law very well its a bit complex for me im afraid. 

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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 8:19:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: egibislavrl4434

*laughs* We both thought people would object to the relationship because of the age, but apart from my family (who think he's 26, he does look young) and his family who think i'm 21, everyone else knows the age difference, and a fair few of his friends know about the dom/sub thing.

It did scare me the first time he answered his cellphone and said into the phone "Oh, yeah, she's here. She's laying at my feet with her collar on."!!

I can see why the mother side of you thinks that, but its not about age...
  It does seem like there are some lies being told here... If he is prepared to tell his family that you are 21 instead of telling them the truth, then one has to ask what he is prepared to tell you.  I mean if he is really serious,  how long do you really think he can keep that lie up.  Eventually they are going to find out one way or another.    I am not one who is prone to judgement, but I have to ask why a 37 year old man is interested in a long term relationship with an 18 year old girl.  I think it would be a bit different if you were in your 20s.  I am not trying to patronise you egibislavrl, but there are some levels of communication and understanding where that much of an age gap would prove difficult in true connection.        I am new here, but I have had plenty of experience in MY 37 years   There seems to be so much wrong with this on so many levels.   Keep your options, open you have your whole life ahead of you.   

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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 8:20:43 AM   
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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 8:20:52 AM   
RCdc


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From the Crown Prosecution Service - Sexual Offenses Act 2003.
 
This is UK only, however, and should not be looked upon as a worldwide law.  Regardless of that, if this 'poster' is indeed real - the punishments would be under NZ law and not UK as she was resident there.
 
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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 8:25:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am wondering that too Cali , but I work with sex offenders and they do indeed risk their career 

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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 8:26:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

Am I the only one who wonders why this guy so casually risked his entire career?

Cali



It happens enough -
Religious Teacher and 16 year old
 
But then, I still think this thread doesn't hold water and the OP isn't responding to the questions posed.
 
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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 8:27:58 AM   
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Am I the only one who wonders why this guy so casually risked his entire career?


It screams loud and clear of the sort of person he is.


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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 8:29:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		To be honest this is all far removed from the questions the OP asked now and it appears she has vanished anyways. 

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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 8:31:47 AM   
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wow-- you are only 18--and had a two year relationship with a man that was 35 when you were 16 years old---is that even legal in your country? because I am pretty sure it is against the law here....consentual?? at 16 you are still a minor


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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 8:32:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		In many states in the US the age of consent is lower than 18, in many it is 16 and in South Carolina it is 14.

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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 8:35:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

In many states in the US the age of consent is lower than 18, in many it is 16 and in South Carolina it is 14.


too lazy to look it up right now, but IIRC in Michigan the age of consent isn't concrete, it's a formula that takes into account the ages of both participants.  So while a 16 year old can consent to sex with someone close to their own age, it is still non-consentual with a person who is a great deal older.  This makes sense to me as an older person can use power and authority to sway the mind of a younger person.

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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 8:35:57 AM   
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In many states in the US the age of consent is lower than 18, in many it is 16 and in South Carolina it is 14.


Yep, just be careful where you transport 'em to.


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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 8:59:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		To the OP and all age thingies aside, it doesn't sound like a good road to be on.  If he is welcoming these advances from the other girls, which he is if he is not actively trying to stop them, there must be a reason.  Is he so insecure that he needs them all to feel the macho he-man type?  Is he using these as a measure of control on you...ie, jealousy, threats?  No, in my point of view, it is not just a "guy" thing at all.  If he had any of the feelings toward you that you say he does, he wouldn't be showing off all his previous conquests.  And he definitely wouldn't be encouraging further contact.  Even in an open relationship this type of behaviour is uncalled for, it's rude and unfeeling.  In a monogamous one like yours, it's downright not acceptable.  My opinion is that it's somewhat of the insecurity/control thing because he made you cut contact with male friends.  But he's keeping contact with other female friends?  Doesn't sound right to me.  I would talk to him about it, that it bothers you, that you really don't care what/who came before you and don't really care to hear/see it.  Trust and communication.

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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 9:22:24 AM   
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This man smacks of being not only a control freak, but also of bordering dangerously on the creepy, paedophilic side of things in my opinion.

This may sound harsh, but it seems that he wants his obedient little fuck toy (that being you), and also the fawning attentions of other girls/women in order to feed his chronic insecurities. I can understand how a sixteen year old could be dazzled by the age and experience of a man twenty years her senior, but from an outsiders point of view (that being mine), any man in his mid-thirties who pusues a fifteen year old, let's face it, child, is sailing dangerously close to the wind in the paedophile stakes.

If you were my daughter and a man my age was pursuing you sexually then I would be seriously considering his motives and fear for you*, not to mention the fact that he is happy to have god knows how many other potentially groomed girls continue to send him explicit messages and photographs.

You seem intelligent enough from your posts here, but really you have to decide whether you're happy being the latest piece of meat for this man (who I'm guessing told all of his previous conquests that they'd 'connected' in a way he never had before if you were to ask them), and content to have him revel in his 'fan mail', or whether you'd rather be with a Master who shows you some respect.

Your call.



*of course, I'd also have a quiet word suggesting that if he wanted to reach forty then he might want to take his nubile cravings elsewhere, but that's just me.

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