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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 11:49:12 AM   
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I agree, a wide age difference between legal consenting adults is not really an indication of anything, but I don't think that's the case here.  Regardless he sure isn't making her a priority and to me, his decision to approach a 15 year old and the fact that he deals with minors is scary.

Because younger people should definitely avoid older people who are smart, mature and experienced to help them along?

My prom date at 18 was a 15 yo friend, we had sex, it was great.

I'm not denying there's a lot of opportunity for abuse in this situation, I'm not denying that there are problems to be worked on.  I'm simply saying that the age difference, ages of those involved and particular context in which they began to be involved with eachother are NOT necessarily horrible bad wrong things.

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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 11:51:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Preying on and wanting to be with are two differant things, I am not saying there arent nasty preditory Doms out there looking purely for inexperianced subs (i should know ive talken to a fair few myself, lucily i was able to see them for what they are) I just think making any generalisations or rules is a risky thing to do, I also think that many men generally like younger girls as many girls like older men its not simply in a D/s context. I do think that this case shows either a huge amount of immaturity on the OP's part and also a fair amount of poor judgement/ poor morals on the Dominants part, either that or the OP is a bit of a wind up merchant. But I guess it depends on what you are talking about in age differance Sir is 33 and I am 21, he has often been with girls a fair bit younger than him, and he is the last person i would call preditory. 

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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 11:52:10 AM   
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The fact that he's a teacher that works with minors and approached her at 15 is not an indication to you of his ability to make healthy decisions?

I agree, a wide age difference between legal consenting adults is not really an indication of anything, but I don't think that's the case here.  Regardless he sure isn't making her a priority and to me, his decision to approach a 15 year old and the fact that he deals with minors is scary.


I will again state, that shes inconsistant.  If he is a teacher, why did she say he would be home in a few minutes, when school wasn't even out?
 
Regardless of that, being a teacher would have nothing to do with the fact that women are sending their own porn, even his boss - which would then mean that his 'boss' would be the head.
Doesn't add up and tastes like bait.
 
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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 11:58:50 AM   
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"What do you think these men see in you? What do you bring to the relationship? You have no life experience, you can't possibly relate to his life experience, what do you talk about?, you have no education beyond high school so I doubt he's interested in intelligent discourse, you still have no idea who you are and what you want, you are still a child in many respects. What do you have to offer him other than your body?"

Wow, that sounds really degrading.

For me it's much more that my cohorts have very little in common with ME and cannot often relate to MY life experience.

Intelligent discourse is allowed only through public education? 

Do most people over 40 really know who they are and what they want?  I've found most people over 40 are JUST beginning to realize what they thought they wanted and who they were really aren't it at all.

No, it's not meant to be degrading. The truth is sometimes hard to hear, and when it comes to communication between loved ones, it is often harder to tell. The reality is, the picture I painted above is an accurate description of 90% of 18 yr olds. That was certainly me at 18. If you were the exception, not the rule, then I applaud you. As for your question on intelligent discourse, no, public education is not the only avenue, but since most 18 yr olds have little of it anyway, and most spend more time watching MTV and the WB than reading books, I stand by my original statement.

Your portrayal of most 40 yr olds is dead on though. It certainly is true for me.

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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 11:59:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't think I said they were horrible bad things.  Like any thread we have limited information.  It sure makes me wonder about him though.  Her repeated reference to not knowing how to address his texts/emails/pictures because he is her "Master" and his inability to make her a priority are certainly enough without the age thing to make me believe that she is not making healthy decisions and setting healthy boundaries and believes the lifestyle means she cannot do so, which obviously isn't true.  Also, 15 and 18 is quite a bit different than 15 and 30 in my opinion.

dark, maybe it was a half day?  I don't know, but other than the obvious wankfests we see here, I don't really ponder whether threads are legitimate or not and consider the discussion for the benefit of anyone else in that possible situation, not just the OP.  I understand your concerns about the inconsistencies, and clearly the other issues with the relationship I agree with as stated above. 

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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 12:01:37 PM   
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At 18 how on earth did she qualify to emigrate to New Zealand from the UK? That part really doesn't add up. As I understand it you have to score pretty high on the 'skills' and education levels. Unless she's over there just 'visiting' because of family vouching for her?

The more I look at this, the less it adds up.

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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 12:02:52 PM   
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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 12:04:02 PM   
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dark, maybe it was a half day?  I don't know, but other than the obvious wankfests we see here, I don't really ponder whether threads are legitimate or not and consider the discussion for the benefit of anyone else in that possible situation, not just the OP.  I understand your concerns about the inconsistencies, and clearly the other issues with the relationship I agree with as stated above. 


Hi laurell
Interim days in the UK are usually on mondays or fridays and half days don't usually exist.  The only other thought is that it may be half term for some schools this week.  But given the rest - I just find it baiting a discussion on illegal activities with children - maybe a way to get around the TOS... dunno.  But it's just a thought.
 
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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 12:05:03 PM   
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Just one thing here.

At 18 how on earth did she qualify to emigrate to New Zealand from the UK? That part really doesn't add up. As I understand it you have to score pretty high on the 'skills' and education levels. Unless she's over there just 'visiting' because of family vouching for her?

The more I look at this, the less it adds up.

Here(U.S.) one can leave the country at age 18...permanetly if they want.


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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 12:06:04 PM   
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Just one thing here.

At 18 how on earth did she qualify to emigrate to New Zealand from the UK? That part really doesn't add up. As I understand it you have to score pretty high on the 'skills' and education levels. Unless she's over there just 'visiting' because of family vouching for her?

The more I look at this, the less it adds up.


I asked her that, however she was too busy elsewhere answering posts and never came back to answer.  Maybe she is here on a tourist visa, either that or she is a student.  But neither would be perm.
 
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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 12:07:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: laurell3
dark, maybe it was a half day?  I don't know, but other than the obvious wankfests we see here, I don't really ponder whether threads are legitimate or not and consider the discussion for the benefit of anyone else in that possible situation, not just the OP.  I understand your concerns about the inconsistencies, and clearly the other issues with the relationship I agree with as stated above. 


Hi laurell
Interim days in the UK are usually on mondays or fridays and half days don't usually exist.  The only other thought is that it may be half term for some schools this week.  But given the rest - I just find it baiting a discussion on illegal activities with children - maybe a way to get around the TOS... dunno.  But it's just a thought.
 
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We regularly had half days in our school but tt days were as you said mondays, and its half term for most schools again as you said


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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 12:07:54 PM   
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I didn't see anything inconsistant, just a kid involved with a man who is taking advantage of her inexperience. 
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I will again state, that shes inconsistant.  If he is a teacher, why did she say he would be home in a few minutes, when school wasn't even out?



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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 12:08:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		New Zealand, and my information might be out of date, has some pretty strict rules on people emigrating there. So it's not the leaving the country of birth that's the issue, it's the rules for the country the OP claims she moved to.

At 18 it's unlikely the OP would meet the requirements to move to NZ (again based on information that may now be out of date)

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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 12:09:57 PM   
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New Zealand, and my information might be out of date, has some pretty strict rules on people emigrating there. So it's not the leaving the country of birth that's the issue, it's the rules for the country the OP claims she moved to.

At 18 it's unlikely the OP would meet the requirements to move to NZ (again based on information that may now be out of date)



She said she has moved from NZ to the uk


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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 12:12:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks dark,

it's really not adding up here at all. Student she'd have to be in school or lose the visa (from old information)

Tourist, think the longest tourist only visa you can get is about 4 months, plus she'd have to have her return ticket already in place (again going on old information).

Not as if those flights are cheap either.

Drama or bait is my guess on this.

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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 12:12:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		FR...ok so i didn't read the whole thread, but i read quite a bit of it...and one thing stuck out to me...

to the OP...he effectively cheated on other girls to talk to you....what makes you think he's going to stop cheating now that he's with you?

the age difference doesn't matter...your age (the OP) does...sorry, but it does, i hated to hear it when i was 18 and i wanted my relationships with the older guys i was with to last...but i was constantly changing who i was, i couldn't decide on a college major for a semester, how could i decide on who i wanted to be with for a signifigant amount of time, much less the rest of my life...and the older guys are still there...and if the guys were worth it, they would have waited till i settled down...fact is, i didn't know how to pick quality guys then...i am now with a guy who is 17 years older than me...he is everything i ever wanted, and a lot of things i don't...because, suprisingly, he's human...but with time, i am now able to participate in life and my relationships rather than anticipate...and shit happens...but i take the bad with the good, because the good far outweighs the bad...oh and i see skanky ho's (but not his ex's) flirt with him and get in a tizzy, and then ask him why he doesn't make them stop, and he's like "stop what?"...because he doesn't even see it...it's all in my head...it's my insecurity, not him cheating on me, or potentially cheating on me...

just my $1.50
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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 12:13:39 PM   
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He works with juniors, so 9-12 year olds.



OK... I call total bullshit - It just clicked with me.  In the UK Junior schools are 7 to 11.
 
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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 12:13:40 PM   
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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 12:15:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Half term is the mid term holiday between major holidays.  My children just had one last week - between the christmas and easter hols.
 
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RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! - 2/21/2008 12:15:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		half term is a weeks holiday mid each school term, there are three school terms, autum, spring and summer, a bit like semesters in the us. hope that helps :D

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