farglebargle
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I said that he violated 18 USC 371 and 18 USC 1001 when he *presented* information to Congress and the general public through deceit, craft, trickery, dishonest means, and fraudulent representations, including lies, half-truths, material omissions, and statements made with reckless indifference to their truth or falsity, while knowing and intending that such fraudulent representations would influence Congress' decisions regarding authorization to use military force and funding for military action.
And congress voted to give him the authority to go to war. Where's your bile and hatred and call for prosecution for them?
If you can't even get the particulars of the AUMF-Iraq right, then why bother trying to participate in the discussion?
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As for your beloved "18 USC 371 and 18 USC 1001"........we are talking about the US government, right? They've all been violating those codes for decades.
NO. We are talking about THE CITIZEN, GEORGE W. BUSH. And THE CITIZEN RICHARD CHENEY... And the CITIZEN Condalezza Rice, and their CHOICE TO BECOME FELONS.
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Furthermore, Saddam, in a final interview said he intentionally allowed the world to think he had those weapons. He enjoyed "fooling" everyone because he didn't think we'd invade.
Bullshit. Hussein CERTIFIED TO THE UN that Iraq was clean just before Bush invaded and occupied Iraq.
Conversely, Bush LIED about the following:
"The U.N. and U.S. intelligence sources have known for some time that Saddam Hussein has materials to produce chemical and biological weapons, but he has not accounted for them:
* 6,000 liters of anthrax—enough to kill several million people
* 38,000 liters of botulinum toxin
* 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agents
(and) Almost 30,000 munitions capable of delivering chemical agents"
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If someone tells you to shoot someone else dead, and you CHOOSE TO OBEY THEM and commit murder, who is responsible for YOUR ACTIONS?
I guess it's good for all of them that you aren't the authority on what constitutes murder. I don't consider death that occurs in battle to be murder. Murder is what the islamist radicals do.
What about an Unlawful War? That's not murder? If it's not murder, than the 9/11 victims weren't murdered, were they?
YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.
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Again I say to this, prove he lied.
The 500 TONS of vx and sarin not enough? Here you go.
Bush CLAIMED a recent IAEA report said something, and the report DID NOT EXIST.
On September 7, 2002, appearing publicly with Blair, BUSH claimed a recent IAEA report stated that Iraq was "six months away from developing a [nuclear] weapon" and "I don't know what more evidence we need," which statements were made without basis and with reckless indifference to the truth in that: (1) the IAEA had not even been present in Iraq since 1998; and (2) the report the IAEA did write in 1998 had concluded there was no indication that Iraq had the physical capacity to produce weapons-usable nuclear material or that it had attempted to obtain such material.
What more proof do you want?
< Message edited by farglebargle -- 4/3/2008 4:31:17 PM >
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As though politicians don't lie daily for their own benefit) is utterly ridiculous, especially in the way you did it. "Oh we don't prosecute x, y, z, so why go after illegals." Well, I'll tell you why. Because this is a nation of laws. Yes, it's been widely known for decades that politicians can skirt a law or two. Does that give you or I carte blanche to break any law we wish without consequence? If your answer is yes, then grab some bags, let's go to the bank, I could use a lil spending money. What the hell, according to you, if we can't go after Bush for a lie, they can't get us for bank robbery, right? 
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