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ORIGINAL: charmdpetKeira

Use your powers wisely; and the force will be with you. ;)
 

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ORIGINAL: Loveisallyouneed

O you just had to make this complicated, didn't you?

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ORIGINAL: DaggerDom

I have a somewhat different take on it.  I think spirituality is a load of hogswallow, just another form of self justification for those who need it and a new way to feel superior to everyone else.

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ORIGINAL: DelilahDeb

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin
I see kink as an important component in my spirituality, yes, pagan. An important component in that it can put us into situations where normal life would not, and there enable learning about oneself. I desire to know myself and go some way to learning or even achieving self mastery, and that is self mastery in all things, so that I may be the best that I can be in my service to society.

This, to me is a path to take, an option would be to blindly bumble along, being blown like a leaf in the wind, with no fixed purpose, as I have been doing in the past part of my life,something which has caused dissatisfaction with myself and my surroundings.The problem with my surroundings, is not the fault of the surroundings, but my perception of them, I wish to change that through better understanding.Understanding only comes by learning and that is what I am seeking to do. I am prepared to in my quest, seek and break through the barrier of male stereotypes and allow my wholeness to shine through, if that makes any sense to others?

Now, I have pagan thought, a spirituality which works for me, but I am very interested on how others view the acts of BDSM, and what it means to them. Particularly if they feel a search for the spirit in what it is that they do. ?

My belief system (a particular tradition of Wicca) teaches a choice of practices that include consentual bondage and consentual flogging among them. The collection of practices and teaching as a whole do indeed lead to altered states which are related to the spiritual satisfaction and meaning I find in this belief system. Having come to BDSM with that belief system already in place, I find a potential for especially meaningful interaction with a partner who shares the belief system.

I do not, however, expect that anyone who chooses to submit to me or otherwise engage in play will move into the spiritual headspace which I may encounter as a part of our play.

In reply to the OP, I don't need to "search for the spirit" because I already have spiritual satisfaction in my life. I do feel a calling (from my Wiccan deities) to enable BDSM practitioners who may seek them to learn more about this path if they so choose. Gods forfend that I push any spiritual agenda on any kinkster, however. WIITWD is what we do, and what we all believe is entirely up to the individual.

Delilah Deb

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ORIGINAL: Loveisallyouneed

O you just had to make this complicated, didn't you?

Yes, Bob, I am afraid I have recently swallowed the “red pill”; it is now my job.
 
It is true what they say, you can’t give it back; they forget to remind you, the truth will set you free.
 
k

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ORIGINAL: Loveisallyouneed

Just because you can lead a horse to water, but cannot make him drink, doesn't mean he won't anyway.

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All I can do is scatter the seeds, and hope they grow.

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ORIGINAL: charmdpetKeira

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ORIGINAL: Loveisallyouneed

Just because you can lead a horse to water, but cannot make him drink, doesn't mean he won't anyway.

Yes, but you seem to be forgetting it is their choice.
 

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However, if trying to drag a mule, is your kink…. Just seems self-defeating to me.

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All I can do is scatter the seeds, and hope they grow.

True.
 
What kind of planet grows, under the conditions, that once the seed has been spread, the planter goes and stomps on them after?
 

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ORIGINAL: charmdpetKeira

Strange, all those summers I spent in the garden, the grass was considered weeds.
 
Grass is good for walking on but, perhaps you have underestimated the potential of your seed?
 

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ORIGINAL: Loveisallyouneed

What they do and how they do it is up to them. For me, it is enough to share my thoughts, my self.

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Of course, there are those who deny spirituality who act as if they are superior to those who have faith in spiritual beliefs

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ORIGINAL: charmdpetKeira

How does your garden look so far?

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ORIGINAL: charmdpetKeira

The seeds you are handing out are duds. It is this way, because you contradict your message with your actions.
 
However, that is your choice.
 
I just thought you should know.
 
My best,
 
k