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RE: Putting an OL collar on a slave - 7/8/2008 1:18:03 PM

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Online collars mean NOTHING! People can change their identidy in half a second online and simply disappear-and throw the collar in the dumpster as they walk out the door!
Same thing with 'collars of consideration' What does that mean? I'm considering collaring you, so here's an 'interim' collar? HUH???

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RE: Putting an OL collar on a slave - 7/8/2008 1:39:39 PM

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Good morning.

I as a rule extend to everyone at least that much respect. The respect of common courtesy. They all recieve that until they show me that they no longer deserve it . By their actions or their words or their behavior. Calling someone on their mistakes and failures is fine. When it crosses the line into disdain and belittlement is when I have issues with it. Rather then being caught up in that type of behavior, I just stay away from them and spend my time on more positive pursuits. I wish a few other posters on this board would extend some of the newcomers the same courtesy. It would make this forum a much less hostile place to visit in :-)

As always, your milage may vary.

Good day to everyone.

CD

Afternoon,

I agree with you. I sound like a broken record sometimes with the ole "common courtesy and respect for your fellow poster can go a long way". Then again I am a bit cynical, and am sort of used to the "hostile place". This is especially true when folks learn for the first time I identify myself as a Gorean man. I also seem to forget that the rules in the other forums don't include the same wording as the Gorean Lifestyles forum... namely

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This is not the place to discuss online or real life Gorean roleplaying.

So you can see how I forget that the other sections do allow the discussion of online roleplaying. Not to open a can of worms, but shouldn't those that have a "kink for online bling" be allowed to do so there? Just something to ponder.

As to why I approached this particular original poster with the sarcasm, I will simply let his own words speak for themselves.
http://www.collarchat.com/m_1942494/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#1942494
http://www.collarchat.com/m_1942453/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#1942453
http://www.collarchat.com/m_1888511/mpage_6/key_/tm.htm#1942487
http://www.collarchat.com/m_1942453/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#1943468

Just to share a few of the insights.... So I still think my advice about online branding was in line with being courteous (even if it was a bit tongue in cheek).

Have a great afternoon,
Thadius

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RE: Putting an OL collar on a slave - 7/8/2008 4:02:37 PM

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This person has shown the willingness to learn. At least grant him that. Do you remember when you were new?

I remember being an acolyte to the intricacies of the BDSM world. The protocols and the amazing amount of information was extremely daunting in its entirety.

Bottom line. Don't discourage the new people who are seeking out information from the more learned members here on the boards. Rather use that energy to chastise the hng's and the trolls and the "never will have a clue's" who need to be run off. Just be selective on who those people actually are.

Have a nice evening.

CD

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RE: Putting an OL collar on a slave - 7/8/2008 4:28:54 PM

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ORIGINAL: CruelDesires

This person has shown the willingness to learn. At least grant him that. Do you remember when you were new?

I remember being an acolyte to the intricacies of the BDSM world. The protocols and the amazing amount of information was extremely daunting in its entirety.

Bottom line. Don't discourage the new people who are seeking out information from the more learned members here on the boards. Rather use that energy to chastise the hng's and the trolls and the "never will have a clue's" who need to be run off. Just be selective on who those people actually are.

Have a nice evening.

CD

Hiya CD,

I just reread all of my posts in this thread, I am having a hard time finding where I was discouraging to the original poster, I don't even think I replied to him.

Yes I remember how it was when I was "new" my mother commented on me being a cruel, brutal, egocentric, male chauvanist. Ah I love that woman, and hell she even knew how to fit a good stereotype in to Christmas dinner discussions. I was only 6 at the time, but who could have guessed that she would be so close to the mark.

Although for the sake of adding to this thread, I will add my advice, even if it isn't "PC". If I was to advise the man attempting to seek knowledge, and more accurately answer his question about collaring the one or 2 subs/slaves he has discussed online. I would say, find a slave that was not owned by another person, and preferably one that didn't also have a spouse. Any collar, at least in my opinion, is a sign of a commitment that should not be taken lightly. In my experience many folks here (on these boards) and in your local community take such commitments seriously, and sometimes take offense to the topic being treated like which pair of underwear you will wear on a given day. If you are seriously considering taking part in collaring anybody, you should look at actual compatibility (online and off), and I would advise you to not collar a sub/slave until you have at least met face to face. Also, take into consideration (by talking with the perspective lucky woman) what that symbol means to both you and her, and what value the both of you place in such a symbol. In other words, would you marry somebody online?

Just being me,
Thadius

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RE: Putting an OL collar on a slave - 7/8/2008 4:38:16 PM

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I apologize. The "Bottom line" was directed at the masses and not at you Thadius. My mistake for not being clear.

CD

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RE: Putting an OL collar on a slave - 7/8/2008 5:47:49 PM

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i find less danger RedMagic in an online breakup than i do with the loss of an appendage.

Aw, come here girl, and have a bite of my kinky Twinkie.

Yum! Did i hear the dessert bell? Yes, i think i did!

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RE: Putting an OL collar on a slave - 7/8/2008 10:48:37 PM

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Online collars carry about as much weight as me running around commanding that you all refer to me as the grand lord high master-poobah of the world. And if im being nice I let you abreviate it GLHMPOTW /scarcasm

Having a relationship that is based online is a sure recipie for failure. You want a bdsm relationship, have a bdsm relationship. Either A you do or B you dont.

Online collars are as serious as fantasy's and about as enforcable as a ban on drugs or alcahol. Cause you know how well that works right?

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RE: Putting an OL collar on a slave - 7/8/2008 10:58:21 PM

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while I dont put any weight into the online collaring thing, FOR MYSELF, whatever works for whoever. Personally, I think its a joke (and Imean that in a funny/sarcastic way..)..who am I to diss someone that it works for?

however.. given previous posts by the OP...

it just kinda makes me shake my head, in this case

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RE: Putting an OL collar on a slave - 7/8/2008 11:12:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

while I dont put any weight into the online collaring thing, FOR MYSELF....

Oh bugger.

I was just trying to gather enough courage to try to collar you online. Well, not a twue online collar just yet - under consideration.

<sighs> It's a cruel world.

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RE: Putting an OL collar on a slave - 7/9/2008 12:02:25 AM

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for you, SD..I'd make an exception ;)

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RE: Putting an OL collar on a slave - 7/9/2008 12:36:14 AM

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The collar is a symbol isn't it? It is nothing more than that.. and a place to connect the leash, etc.. but in any case, in truth, it is not really any more 'enforceable' than an online collar. Both are symbols.. What matters is the pearson wearing it. Some online slaves are nothing... that is true.

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RE: Putting an OL collar on a slave - 7/10/2008 5:39:26 PM

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ORIGINAL: HeavansKeeper

Take My Pet and I, for example. We play World of Warcraft together. (always ever so slightly embarrassed to admit that). In the game there is a VERY common, worthless item called the "Small Leather Collar." (you kill young cats to get them... Don't ask) My Pet is allowed to carry one. No more, no less. Nothing in the game matters to her like that collar. It can be replaced easier any other item she owns in that world, and has zero bearing in the real world.

But if I took that collar, in the video game, and destroyed it, she would cry.

Aloha,

The Man and I play WoW, too, and I have one of those very same small leather collars from the NE starting zone! It's a fun place to play and we usually play a couple of hours two or three times a week. Good times. :)

Aloha,

pio

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RE: Putting an OL collar on a slave - 7/10/2008 5:52:58 PM

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unless the people in the online relationship NEVER plan on meeting and trying to take their relationship to the next level, (in which case it is just roleplay)what really is the difference between them and long distance relationships that use technology to stay connected while apart?

has there never been any couples that met here on CM, started online, met, then committed to a long distance relationship where online became an intergral part to keep the connection going between visits? and if that is plausible, why is this so different? because the met in a chat room instead of on a kink site?

I think feelings online can be as real as they can anywhere, i know i have friends i have met online that i truly value, value their opinion, thier support, and their company, because they are not sitting across the table from me having a coffee does not mean they are any less unreal than my neighbor.

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RE: Putting an OL collar on a slave - 7/10/2008 6:08:13 PM

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*whistles* I can't believe this thread is still alive! *brings brownies for everyone*

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RE: Putting an OL collar on a slave - 7/10/2008 7:49:05 PM

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Online collars:

ANY QUESTIONS?

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RE: Putting an OL collar on a slave - 7/10/2008 7:50:35 PM

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you know that pix get taken down, right? and your big orange question is gonna be met with confusion... might want to put out a link to the pic... just saying.

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RE: Putting an OL collar on a slave - 7/10/2008 7:52:21 PM

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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

you know that pix get taken down, right? and your big orange question is gonna be met with confusion... might want to put out a link to the pic... just saying.

Really, thats gay.

Heres a link if it happens. http://carolynbaker.net/site/images/train%20wreck.jpg

Now that I think about it though, then it would be just like the 10 coolest thing's about New Jersy by the Blood Hound Gang, and if you know what im talking about you can be my friend.

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RE: Putting an OL collar on a slave - 7/10/2008 8:47:01 PM

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Fast Reply: So, then, what is it that makes a R/T collar mean more than an OL collar? Does wearing a R/T collar magically make the person wearing it a better submissive? I think the problem is that you expect online and R/T BDSM to work the same way and that kind of thinking is simply too rigid to work in a virtual community. If you cannot adapt, though, do not make the foolish assumtion that it can't be done. I know more than a few people who have been involved in online M/s and in the same relationship for years. They are devoted and loving and the distance between them does not keep them apart. They spend several hours together each day maintain a dominant/submissive dynamic. If you tried to tell them that their relationship was not real, they would simply mute you, move on, laugh about the silly person who thought their rules were the only ones that mattered and live hapily ever after..

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RE: Putting an OL collar on a slave - 7/10/2008 8:53:38 PM

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ORIGINAL: Maxwell67

Fast Reply: So, then, what is it that makes a R/T collar mean more than an OL collar? Does wearing a R/T collar magically make the person wearing it a better submissive? I think the problem is that you expect online and R/T BDSM to work the same way and that kind of thinking is simply too rigid to work in a virtual community. If you cannot adapt, though, do not make the foolish assumtion that it can't be done. I know more than a few people who have been involved in online M/s and in the same relationship for years. They are devoted and loving and the distance between them does not keep them apart. They spend several hours together each day maintain a dominant/submissive dynamic. If you tried to tell them that their relationship was not real, they would simply mute you, move on, laugh about the silly person who thought their rules were the only ones that mattered and live hapily ever after..

But at the same time you might find that what they are really doing is living in a fantasy world online that distracts them from how much things in thier real world existance really suck, so in all actuality they are avoiding actually doing anything to really improve thier situation and have somthing that is.... well REAL!

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RE: Putting an OL collar on a slave - 7/10/2008 9:04:32 PM

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But at the same time you might find that what they are really doing is living in a fantasy world online that distracts them from how much things in thier real world existance really suck, so in all actuality they are avoiding actually doing anything to really improve thier situation and have somthing that is.... well REAL!

Ahh, ant the lives of people in R/T relationships never ever suck do they? I had not thought about it that way before. What is that rule again, about judging someone elses kink? Oh yes...If it takes place between informed and consenting adults then it is none of your damned business.

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