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ORIGINAL: Amaros

All technically true, but you are really only replacing one "law" with another, and you are failing to consider that group level selection vehichles are involved - law itself is a product of the group vehicle.

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

Well, despite my vast intellectual inferiority, let's just assume I'm somewhere near your highly evolved intelligence.  Can we do that, I mean just for shits and giggles?

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My point is the desire to do that level of harm to oneself or another is not what you try to portray euphemistically as a cultural difference.

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Rational people do not choose to harm themselves or others to the point of removing body parts, much less making a casserole with them.

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ORIGINAL: Amaros

People often turn to magical thinking during times of social stress and upheaval, racism is a form of magical thinking for example, a "goat" - i.e., if you can manage to eradicate the "source" of whatever evil you imagine yourself to be suffering from (usually mere bad managment, political-economic miscreance, but also natural disaster, etc., but usually blamed on gays, Jews, witches, liberals and other assorted heretics, etc.), you can appease the gods and restore the balance.

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ORIGINAL: SirDominic

I do not know I can answer that question.

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ORIGINAL: masterforRT

I think that BDSM (or anything) becomes unhealhy and/or destructive if (when) you become obsessed with it. Problem is that your FIRST life needs attention too! I can easily see people doing the same with BDSM. 

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ORIGINAL: IrishMist

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Rational people do not choose to harm themselves or others

I deliberatly did not include the part about taking off body parts because the 'action' really has nothing to do with what I am going to say.

You state that 'rational people do not choose to harm themselves or others"...

First off; what is YOUR definition of rational. Not a dictionary definition...but YOURS.
Secondly, I would like to point out that rational people harm and hurt others every day; sometimes intentionally, sometimes unintentionally. Of course, I am using my own definition of rational...most probably differs from yours; but hey, that's ok.

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ORIGINAL: SylvereApLeanan

This entire thread =
 
How hard is it to figure out that, if you are cutting off body parts so someone else can eat them (or any other reason besides emergency lifesaving procedures) and think it's a perfectly acceptable life choice, You. Are. Broken.
 
You are not spiritual or deep.  You're bugfuck nuts.  Do not pass go.  Go directly to the psych ward.  Better yet, remove yourself from the gene pool before you spawn.
 
Until then, here's your sign.

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

You know, this is just getting to the point of being ridiculous.  Are you saying there are no absolutes?  Ever?  That we can all just make up our own version of right and wrong.

So, if I decide to take a baseball bat to my neighbor's head because his dog barks too much I should be given an understanding pat on the back by the police, because after all it was pretty annoying and I should be able to use my definition of what is rational and right. 

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So, if I decide to take a baseball bat to my neighbor's head because his dog barks too much I should be given an understanding pat on the back by the police, because after all it was pretty annoying and I should be able to use my definition of what is rational and right. 

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ORIGINAL: Drakcon

i don't know, taking a baseball bat to my neighbors head sounds good for them having a loud dog, not the dogs fault it's there, the neighbor took it home, why should i beat the dog for the neighbors error in not correcting the issue in the first place?    LOL.....  so yeah the authority's should be understanding, you went right to the source of the problem and took care of it........

I know........ GROOOWNNNNNN    sue me  :P

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

You know, this is just getting to the point of being ridiculous.  Are you saying there are no absolutes?  Ever?  That we can all just make up our own version of right and wrong.

So, if I decide to take a baseball bat to my neighbor's head because his dog barks too much I should be given an understanding pat on the back by the police, because after all it was pretty annoying and I should be able to use my definition of what is rational and right. 

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ORIGINAL: IrishMist

LMFAO

I like your reasoning

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ORIGINAL: CallaFirestormBW

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

You know, this is just getting to the point of being ridiculous.  Are you saying there are no absolutes?  Ever?  That we can all just make up our own version of right and wrong.

So, if I decide to take a baseball bat to my neighbor's head because his dog barks too much I should be given an understanding pat on the back by the police, because after all it was pretty annoying and I should be able to use my definition of what is rational and right. 

For me, there is one absolute -- I require that any activity be consentual, and that full disclosure precedes obtaining consent. By this criteria, your decision to take a baseball bat to your neighbor's head because his dog barks too much would be a criminal act (assuming that you did not get consent from your neighbor to bash his head in over his dog.)

Once an act becomes one of consentual participation, where all parties are of legal age to give consent, know what is happening and have consented, it is nobody else's business to decide how they behave with one another, or to ameliorate any danger caused by their activities. Decisions about who is and is not capable of giving consent, for me, are limited to individuals who are of legal age, and who have not been deemed incapable of comprehending adult concepts by a medical doctor (ie, mentally challenged to the point where xhe is mentally a child, even though xhe's physically entered adultuhood), and who is currently not under the influence of any mind-altering drug that could impair understanding of hir participation or which could remove inhibitions (alcohol, prescription/non-prescription drugs).

Firestorm

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even if you are only spanking someone, with the full consent of the person being spanked, if someone were to call the police you theoretically could be charged with assault, without any need of the spankee filing a complaint. 

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ORIGINAL: IrishMist

Rule, fortunately, the law is not always so black and white; a condition that 99% of the people in the world are more than aware of. We can sit here till the end of the world and bicker about semantics but it will not change the fact that there are situations in which a person DOES HAVE THE RIGHT to inflict bodily harm; WITHOUT THE CONSENT of the other person; and I am not just referring to self-defense.
Yes, I am taking this to the extreme edge, but even you are not so ignorant as to not realize this.

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even if you are only spanking someone, with the full consent of the person being spanked, if someone were to call the police you theoretically could be charged with assault, without any need of the spankee filing a complaint. 

Are you a police officer? A lawyer who specializes in cases such as this?
I know for a fact…yes for a fact…that if the police were called because someone were spanking me; that the person arrested would not be charged with assault without my express cooperation; and even then, the chances of attaining a conviction of assault are almost nil.