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RE: The 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/2/2008 11:22:37 AM

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Any comments?

Umm yea. There is this really off beat method that the more "uneducated' group tend to use...it's called "Taking time to get to know someone before becoming involved with them"

This means that we

actually go on a couple dates...ohhhhhhhhhhh how demeaning....and that we actually

talk about things that are important...like...where we work, what we do in our spare time, things we like, things we dislike...

You know...that "getting to know each other' routine that seems to be nowhere in existance anymore because people seem to think that the internet takes care of all that.

Those are my comments.

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RE: The 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/2/2008 11:37:12 AM

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trouble is, there are heaps of people who would. there was a thread not long ago about exactly this, but it wasnt hypothesis, it was actually being seriously considered and im pretty sure everyone said 'dont do it'

of the Ds ive had a relationship with. one came from a seriously wealthy family, but had no actual cash of his own, was incapable of work and lived on the kudos of a rich family. i was sucked in badly by loads of lies and BS, but i was only 21 and totally unworldly.

the other two: are entrepeneurs, wealthy in their own right and never ever lost sight of my career and the importance of my ability to remain financially stable.

so, from my limited experience its the la la land fantasists that boom like empty barrels promising the world. the real deal guys already know the value of employment, financial independence and are the ones that would support and encourage financial stability, or should.

frankly, anyone who told me to give up my work, pack up my things and go live under their protection would remind me so much of the moron i met when i was 21 that i would press 'block' before i even bothered to say goodbye.

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RE: The 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/2/2008 12:03:33 PM

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Any comments?

Umm yea. There is this really off beat method that the more "uneducated' group tend to use...it's called "Taking time to get to know someone before becoming involved with them"

This means that we actually go on a couple dates...ohhhhhhhhhhh how demeaning....and that we actually talk about things that are important...like...where we work, what we do in our spare time, things we like, things we dislike...

You know...that "getting to know each other' routine that seems to be nowhere in existance anymore because people seem to think that the internet takes care of all that.

Those are my comments.

Irish, don't you mean that we "allegedly" actually do those things???

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RE: The 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/2/2008 12:15:12 PM

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Irish, don't you mean that we "allegedly" actually do those things???

Shhhh...it might ruin the prevailing perception that D/sM/s relationships are special and need special care

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RE: The 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/2/2008 3:52:24 PM

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Since my divorce...i've dated several well-off and a few wealthy guys both nilla and Dom. (Both foreign, and domestic LOL.) Thing is...most guys with money don't advertise...and they can smell a gold-digger coming. i like the fact that i am able to be with someone based on their merits and not their finances. Finances, though important, shouldn't be the focus in power exchange. i make sure i am solvent and not strapped for cash, so that my relationships aren't like transactions. i don't mind a man "owning" me...but buying me...well that's another matter entirely.

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RE: The 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/2/2008 3:57:09 PM

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The Op is not about me. <snip>...

While it seems pretty obvious, I went to an American law school. Possibly Europeans have more familiarity with immgration issues. I doubt any statement about the resident's duty to the immigrant is true the world over.

Crickey; in some replies, I am told I know nothing. In others, I am told I should know everything.

It's amazing what people will do to miss a point.

funny how the story changes from 'me' to someone else when you don't like the answers...

oh, and i'm not a european and not a lawyer, nor did i study law, and i knew the obvious answer to the immigration laws; it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out ya know.

as for missing the point, honey, i got the point just fine, you just didn't like my answer and became an emotionally reactive, story changing, panties in a wad, defensive little...

i'll leave the rest out so i don't get moderator spanked, but you get my drift!

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RE: The 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/2/2008 6:36:42 PM

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Don't talk to people who live out of the country. Do talk to people who live near enough that you can see them most weekends. Don't discuss moving until you've been together a minimum of a year.

At that point, should he want you to move and lose your moderately priced housing you can ask for a savings account in your name that he would add to in lieu of you working and putting your own savings aside, as well as start up costs for you moving. Down payment or first and last month's security plus buying furniture and housewares.

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RE: The 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/2/2008 6:44:27 PM

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they are all reading exactly what you communicated....and responding appropriately.

That seems to be a recurring problem.

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RE: The 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/2/2008 7:25:46 PM

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Interestingly enough, when a Dom tells me how wealthy he is (that is if he is speaking financially), I will, on a more probable than not basis, figure he's not being completely honest and run the other way.

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RE: The 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/2/2008 11:18:45 PM

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Me: On the contrary, you are asking me to place myself in a position where my income is not sufficient to meet even my most basic needs. What if I chose to return to America and you disagree?

Assuming that you are interested in this person and there is a history or whatever that has made you decide to move in with this person... and ignoring the fact that he says your fake... so assuming that this is something you decided to do but the only issue was the "money problem"...

What about the option of having $xxx dollars supplied and deposited into an account only in your name in the event things turn sour and you need return to America? Enough to get a one way ticket back for you and any belongings that remain?

Wealth is only a road block if you do not prepare for the future unknowns.

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RE: The 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/2/2008 11:21:04 PM

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but the OP isnt about HER, SP... *snicker*

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RE: The 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/2/2008 11:59:15 PM

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but the OP isnt about HER, SP... *snicker*

Understood... was offering a suggestion on how a "problem" may not be one...

Yes, I understand there was more to the post, but do I REALLY have to respond to the redundant portions for you? I felt the majority of the post did not need clarification as its a common situation... Would you like me to go back and type a long response about how stupid men are? how stupid doms are? How stupid some subs are for getting into that situation? How stupid rich people are? How stupid poor people trying to play rich are? I am sure I can find a couple different classes of people to belittle in response to the OP... Would that make you feel better and show that I was just as in the know as you are? Screw that, I have better things to do then address that which does not need to be addressed thank you.

Perhaps I have just had my fill of being an asshole for the night and felt like being nice for a while... see what happens when I try and be nice and place my dry sarcasm and searing tongue on standby for a bit?

> *snicker*
Agreed.

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RE: The 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/3/2008 12:02:04 AM

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*ouch*

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RE: The 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/3/2008 12:07:35 AM

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but the OP isnt about HER, SP... *snicker*

Understood... was offering a suggestion on how a "problem" may not be one...

Yes, I understand there was more to the post, but do I REALLY have to respond to the redundant portions for you? I felt the majority of the post did not need clarification as its a common situation... Would you like me to go back and type a long response about how stupid men are? how stupid doms are? How stupid some subs are for getting into that situation? How stupid rich people are? How stupid poor people trying to play rich are? I am sure I can find a couple different classes of people to belittle in response to the OP... Would that make you feel better and show that I was just as in the know as you are? Screw that, I have better things to do then address that which does not need to be addressed thank you.

Perhaps I have just had my fill of being an asshole for the night and felt like being nice for a while... see what happens when I try and be nice and place my dry sarcasm and searing tongue on standby for a bit?

> *snicker*
Agreed.

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RE: The 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/3/2008 12:12:04 AM

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Someone who wants to control that much of your life, that quickly, is probably in need of some therapy that their wealth should be able to afford them. In a total power exchange, I can see how that arrangement might be made EVENTUALLY. Anyone trying to convince you how wonderful this is, before you really know them (even lestat wakes up with morning breath my love.....), can't be all that good for you. And if they are, then they will wait. I do hope you find what you seek.

Women get sex whenever they want it. What do men get in return? We let you.

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RE: The 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/3/2008 12:34:55 AM

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SP .. I think I love you!!!!!!!!!

You confuse me.

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RE: The 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/3/2008 12:37:45 AM

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I'm good at that .............. ;)

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RE: The 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/3/2008 1:29:30 AM

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I guess an example might best illustrate this.

Him: I make a 7 figure income and have significant assets, so you can feel safe emigrating out the country with me.

Me: Will you be signing over assets and income to me? No? (Shocked look.) Well then how will I be any different off than I am now -- a woman on a limited income?

Him: When you accept a collar, the Dom takes total control over your life. This includes financial support. You'd never have to worry about money with me.

Me: On the contrary, you are asking me to place myself in a position where my income is not sufficient to meet even my most basic needs. What if I chose to return to America and you disagree?

Him: You are a fake and know nothing about the lifestyle.

Me: Good bye.

This has come up in differet contexts. I've had Doms refuse to discuss their characters or personal lives 'because I'm rich, that's all you need to know'.

I'm not opposed to finding a wealthy Dom. I just think when incomes are disparate there are issues presented which for me need a full airing.

I'm not willing to rely on a promise made in the honeymoon stage to 'always take care of you' as a substitute for being able to take care of myself. Certainly he can sign over assets and income and change my situation, but I've never known a self-proclained wealthy Dom who showed any interest in doing so. Nor one that wanted to lower his standard of living. For that matter, I have yet to meet one who was even willing to fund a 'safety net' for me, in case I needed to become financially self-sufficient again.

I don't care to be yet another woman with a horror story of being lured from her home and moved across the country -- or out of the country -- only to be 'released' suddenly, alone and broke in a strange place.

Any comments?

candystripper

It's more appropriate for an imported slave like softness to get a monthly stipend which is deposited in her name in an account for her use in case she is suddenly released. However, insisting on having your own money available at any moment is simply a refusal to actually submit.

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RE: The 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/3/2008 2:08:53 AM

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anyone can say they are 'rich' and the fact that they have to mention it is vulgar, anyone used to having wealth would not feel the need to refer to it or use it as bait. Maybe they use it as bait because it's all they have to offer, and they recognise that a certain type of woman will fall for $$$$ rather than the man himself.

edited because it seems I can't spell ...

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RE: The 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/3/2008 5:38:38 AM

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I am assuming the money issue came up after getting questioned about the distance as a way of explaining "Not to worry ..I can afford to support you in a very comfortable manner ..this is what I have ..... "....but it did blow me away that the OP especially being a lawyer would ask for income and assets in exchange for her sexual service

And have to agree with him... it would not make her a submissive/slave but a prostitute for having asked for money in exchange..so definitely a lack of understanding of the lifestyle

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