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RE: SOLUTION to 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/10/2008 7:58:59 PM

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ORIGINAL: SirBitterSweet
I have no clue what you are talking about.

I can tell!

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RE: SOLUTION to 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/10/2008 8:03:36 PM

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Fr. God.

First they whine that a guy is too broke, then they whine that he has too much.

Nothing ever satisfies you women.

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RE: SOLUTION to 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/10/2008 8:05:37 PM

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Fr. God.

First they whine that a guy is too broke, then they whine that he has too much.

Nothing ever satisfies you women.

Maybe she would go for say....

A twelve inch dick, a Dozen Roses and a Pickup Truck... Hubba hubba hey....

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RE: SOLUTION to 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/10/2008 8:05:47 PM

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like duh

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RE: The 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/11/2008 2:49:34 AM

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i dont understand why you expect any Dominants to consider handing over or sharing ANY of their financial assets with you ? Why should they? Look after you financially if they want you to be living together and dont want you to be in employment yes. perhaps provide you with the money for an air fare to go back home should things go wrong would be a really responsible thing to do. you do hear sometimes of Doms putting financial security for their slave in place should they die IF they can afford it, but at the end of day its their choice if they do or not and i guess if so, this would only happen after time and a very serious commitment.

Maybe i am wrong, but i would have thought some Doms may think Your motives for wanting this type of relationship is more about your long term financial security, and less about your willingness to submit to them. No Dom would like to suspect i feel that you are attracted to them just because of how many dollars or pounds etc they have in the bank

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RE: SOLUTION to 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/11/2008 9:47:46 AM

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ORIGINAL: SirBitterSweet

CalifChick

It's too late to back paddle.

If you have to pull rank when trying to help someone, the advice credibility is drowned by the writer's personal arrogance. It should not matter where I stand next to you when you offer a suggestion, the suggestion should be naked and without a claim to rank or assumption of who or what I am. THIS IS OBVIOUS COMMON SENSE.

Second, if you want to pull rank, cite your pysch degree credentials, then I will be more impressed, but it doesn't change the fact your delivery was poor ettiquette.

Finally, if you go back and read the very original post, there is NO clear question from the author, just an example of dialgue. The only request is for 'comments.' I simply commented on an alternative response to a dialogue she posted. Think of it as an art gallery. She hung a poem on the wall and said, any comments? Hence, all comments are welcome. I call that a smart post, as that she welcomed ANY kind of response.

I really don't want to debate this any more, I'm tired of people who stand by their denial of the obvious.

Wow. Back paddle? (pedal?) Pull rank? Seriously? All I said was she didn't want help. I never said your post was not a good one. Sensitive much?

Perhaps if you had read the OP's followup posts, you would see where she said she doesn't want help for herself.

It's too bad your good ideas are enveloped in such vitriol.

Cali

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RE: SOLUTION to 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/11/2008 9:57:14 AM

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ORIGINAL: SirBitterSweet

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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

You're new around these parts, so it's understandable that you might think that. But the reality is no, that's not what was being asked.

Cali

Glad to know that someone on this site has psychic abilities and can read the mind of member just from a post that did NOT ask any specific questions and mind you, closed with a request for assistance (she asked, 'Any comments?')

First of all, it does not matter if I am new or not, as that I am not new to life ::laughs:: and last I checked, this is not a club that assigns rank or file. Does it matter I have been a member of this site for 4 years? Probably not.

Two, I prefaced my reply with 'it seems' --- which last I checked with my English professor in college, implies that my response is predicated on my interpretation of her own subtle inferences -- which she left open to reader in her very first post.

Third, because she did not ask a specific question, I offered a response that differed from others I read. Yes, I am guilty of NOT reading every last reply in the thread.. but nonetheless, she seemed to have dropped out of the thread. Now why is that??

Until she comes back and says anything to the contraty, well it's all guesswork .. and sorry if my response hurt your ego, that was not my intention.

**cant believe this thread is still going on** No offense, but since the particular poster in question has had approximately 10 prior nicknames, and all have the same posting quality, yes it is possible for some of us that have been around a while to know what is under the seemingly placid surface. She dropped out of the thread, (just so you know) because she likes to start a shitstorm and vanish onto starting another thread........that is why she dropped out, not because big bad Cali had something to say; because LOTS of others besides Cali had something to say.

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RE: SOLUTION to 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/11/2008 9:59:01 AM

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(thinks Cali should add "Big Bad Cali" to her sig...)

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RE: SOLUTION to 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/11/2008 10:06:36 AM

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Greedy, who me????

Hee hee hee. Look down.

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RE: SOLUTION to 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/11/2008 10:13:00 AM

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then they whine that he has too much.

I will never whine about a guy having too much money. Unless he's an ass. No amount of money can clean up that sort of stink.

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RE: SOLUTION to 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/11/2008 10:42:00 AM

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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

Greedy, who me????

Hee hee hee. Look down.

Cali

YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: SOLUTION to 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/12/2008 3:32:21 PM

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Sweet Jesus, Cali

Go back and LOOK at how you opened your first post to me. It starts out with a real uncessary statement. I am not answering your posts any more. You are a non person to me.

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RE: SOLUTION to 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/12/2008 4:55:58 PM

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Ok folks, settle down please.

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RE: The 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/12/2008 7:21:51 PM

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ORIGINAL: candystripper

I guess an example might best illustrate this.

Him: I make a 7 figure income and have significant assets, so you can feel safe emigrating out the country with me.

Me: Will you be signing over assets and income to me? No? (Shocked look.) Well then how will I be any different off than I am now -- a woman on a limited income?

Him: When you accept a collar, the Dom takes total control over your life. This includes financial support. You'd never have to worry about money with me.

Me: On the contrary, you are asking me to place myself in a position where my income is not sufficient to meet even my most basic needs. What if I chose to return to America and you disagree?

Him: You are a fake and know nothing about the lifestyle.

Me: Good bye.

This has come up in differet contexts. I've had Doms refuse to discuss their characters or personal lives 'because I'm rich, that's all you need to know'.

I'm not opposed to finding a wealthy Dom. I just think when incomes are disparate there are issues presented which for me need a full airing.

I'm not willing to rely on a promise made in the honeymoon stage to 'always take care of you' as a substitute for being able to take care of myself. Certainly he can sign over assets and income and change my situation, but I've never known a self-proclained wealthy Dom who showed any interest in doing so. Nor one that wanted to lower his standard of living. For that matter, I have yet to meet one who was even willing to fund a 'safety net' for me, in case I needed to become financially self-sufficient again.

I don't care to be yet another woman with a horror story of being lured from her home and moved across the country -- or out of the country -- only to be 'released' suddenly, alone and broke in a strange place.

Any comments?

candystripper

I would be very...concerned when a woman on the internet started insisting signing over assets. I would, however, assign a safety net if she felt it necessary that would be given under certain circumstances...

if she felt it wise to work and save money for herself in case of any hardships, I would have no problems with this...even though I would be paying for everything in her life.

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RE: The 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/15/2008 9:35:02 AM

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When a post gets this long I take a risk at repeating what others have said. My apologies if that occurs.

I believe it is essential to maintain your ability to sustain yourself in the event of anything that may have you displaced from a situation with your Dominant/Master. A car accident, a heart attack, a bad break-up or God knows what else could place a submissive in a horrible position.

I feel it's important to maintain some identity of your own, even if you are a "no limits" slave. You should maintain a career and the ability to walk away if the situation fails you. IF the situation CHANGES to where you know, like you know your own mother's voice, to a viable quit working outside the home situation then you could make that decision, possibly. But remember divorce happens to many people that walked in thinking "this is forever for me" and they were happy for a very long time. Something changed.

Also, a Dominant must protect themselves from being taken by someone. Don't make promises in the financial world that you will be unwilling to keep. Do not allow the legal system to be used to dislodge you from your hard earned assets. Protect yourself. Everyone protect yourself. I do, because I have experienced losses in huge ways. I made mistakes that I will not make again. Save yourself from the hard lesson and do the right thing the first time around.

Anyone that feels this is not the case is walking around with a dangerous mind, IMO.

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RE: The 'Problem' of the Wealthy Dom - 7/16/2008 12:28:39 PM

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I agree with DomDolf, which is why as I stated in an earlier post, I would be looking at a work contract guaranteeing the slave a set time of employment as a domestic in my home with the possibility of rising to the status of House keeper. As such, this is a legal contract under Australian State Employment Laws with the necessary penalties should I treminate her employment early but with the guarantee of an extension to be renegotiated if so desired. There could be written in the agreement to provide return airfares to her original home (or similar) for anual holidays or for reasons of serious ilnesses of her parents etc. Funnily enough such agreements use the terms as Master and servant which also apply to my lifestyle as well.. All of this can be done under the legal system with wages being paid into her bank as well as superannuation which is compulsary in any case as well as work place cover for her health insurance. . For me this is a no brainer and it doesn't place any additional stress on my personal or business assets including cash.

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