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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/20/2008 1:20:16 PM   
CelticPrince


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Well, I guess it's a sign of our friendship, and that we are friends. Nothing particularly fancy about it.

In terms of what he calls me, I'm "his sub" as opposed to "his girlfriend" or "his wife". But, we're friends, who have a purely platonic relationship, I just need a label, apparently :)

As a point of clarification, he didn't give the necklace (which is what it is) to me as a collar per se, it just sort of turned into one over time, and we're both comfy with that.

I've never spent a long time analysing it before.

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ivy,

Ok I am confused, It is considered a collar, he calls you his sub, but it is strictly platonic??????????

You have indeed set a new standard.

CP

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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/20/2008 3:15:09 PM   
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what i think of when i think of a collar is that Sir cares about me, he choses me to be his..  It signifies that i please, delight, and serve only him.

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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/21/2008 5:02:04 PM   
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what i think of when i think of a collar is that Sir cares about me, he choses me to be his.. It signifies that i please, delight, and serve only him.


lilone,

Then I would say thsat your Sir is indeed fortunate!

CP

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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/22/2008 9:02:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: coupleowl

A collar no matter which form it may take; be that ring, bracelet, or...Collar. Is worn by the submissive to express the master's statement of "This one belongs to me, Body, mind and sould". While at the same time it allows the Submissive to state "I live to serve and obey".

And in another way it says "If you can't see the wedding ring, this also means i'm off limits"


I came here to say exactly what you did. Shame on you for stealing my words!

When I wear my collar I feel empowered. I feel safe and secure. When people give me funny looks, I just prance and snuggle against my Master. It's a personal sign to me that I am loved, and a sign to others that they better back off and stop looking at me so hungrily if they want to keep their testicles.

And collars are very personal. There's nothing wrong with asking about them, or complimenting them, but it's look and not touch. Once, a friend of mine who flirts incessantly with me AND my Dom, reached out and hooked his finger through the ring to pull me to him, and I became very upset. It's just not done. I still feel icky when thinking about it.

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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/22/2008 10:57:50 AM   
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Sticks and stones
May break my bones
But whips and chains excite me
So tie me up
Or hold me down
And bite me baby, bite me!


Ellie,

Thanks for my first laugh of the day!

CP

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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/22/2008 11:49:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

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In terms of what he calls me, I'm "his sub" as opposed to "his girlfriend" or "his wife". But, we're friends, who have a purely platonic relationship


ivy,
Ok I am confused, It is considered a collar, he calls you his sub, but it is strictly platonic??????????
You have indeed set a new standard.
CP


How is this a new standard?  Many BDSM-relationships are neither sexual nor romatic in nature.

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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/22/2008 12:07:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

quote:

Well, I guess it's a sign of our friendship, and that we are friends. Nothing particularly fancy about it.

In terms of what he calls me, I'm "his sub" as opposed to "his girlfriend" or "his wife". But, we're friends, who have a purely platonic relationship, I just need a label, apparently :)

As a point of clarification, he didn't give the necklace (which is what it is) to me as a collar per se, it just sort of turned into one over time, and we're both comfy with that.

I've never spent a long time analysing it before.

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ivy,

Ok I am confused, It is considered a collar, he calls you his sub, but it is strictly platonic??????????

You have indeed set a new standard.

CP
I don't mean to be confusing.  He calls me his "sub" because he has a wife, and he has a girlfriend, and I'm not *just* a friend (on the basis that we sort of crossed that line a while ago), and he has to call me something.  We worked out kinda early on that he says "do this" and I do it, reflexivly, and there was a very strange conversation about my driving him and his wife to York (it was a *very* strange conversation), so in some ways, there's a dominant/submissive sort of element to how we interact, and so, combining that with the fact that I identify as a "sub", I get to be called "his sub".

We now have a completely platonic relationship, or as complete as a relationship where it's perfectly natural for him to study/grope my boobs as a greeting can be platonic.  We used to be much less platonic, but, the relationship (as far as platonic ness goes) is set by him and what he wants (seeing that he's the dominant party vibe again?) and so now, we are.

Roll on August when I get to see him (and his new ickle one) again :)

n.b. the ickly one will be "his daughter", she gets a label too.

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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/22/2008 12:10:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TwoNYCDommes

quote:

ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

quote:


In terms of what he calls me, I'm "his sub" as opposed to "his girlfriend" or "his wife". But, we're friends, who have a purely platonic relationship


ivy,
Ok I am confused, It is considered a collar, he calls you his sub, but it is strictly platonic??????????
You have indeed set a new standard.
CP


How is this a new standard?  Many BDSM-relationships are neither sexual nor romatic in nature.
Exactly, thanks.

Aside from me and "him", that of the pro domme and paying sub is another example.  Or the casual play in a club with someone who shares your kink.

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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/22/2008 4:05:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TwoNYCDommes

quote:

ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

quote:


In terms of what he calls me, I'm "his sub" as opposed to "his girlfriend" or "his wife". But, we're friends, who have a purely platonic relationship


ivy,
Ok I am confused, It is considered a collar, he calls you his sub, but it is strictly platonic??????????
You have indeed set a new standard.
CP


How is this a new standard?  Many BDSM-relationships are neither sexual nor romatic in nature.


What they said. I'd probably say it's a minority type of relationship (but hey, I could be wrong) but it's hardly a new standard.

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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/22/2008 5:48:18 PM   
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How is this a new standard? Many BDSM-relationships are neither sexual nor romatic in nature.


NY "D"s,

maybe it is a NY thing!

CP

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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/22/2008 5:55:01 PM   
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I don't mean to be confusing. He calls me his "sub" because he has a wife, and he has a girlfriend, and I'm not *just* a friend (on the basis that we sort of crossed that line a while ago), and he has to call me something. We worked out kinda early on that he says "do this" and I do it, reflexivly, and there was a very strange conversation about my driving him and his wife to York (it was a *very* strange conversation), so in some ways, there's a dominant/submissive sort of element to how we interact, and so, combining that with the fact that I identify as a "sub", I get to be called "his sub".

We now have a completely platonic relationship, or as complete as a relationship where it's perfectly natural for him to study/grope my boobs as a greeting can be platonic. We used to be much less platonic, but, the relationship (as far as platonic ness goes) is set by him and what he wants (seeing that he's the dominant party vibe again?) and so now, we are.

Roll on August when I get to see him (and his new ickle one) again :)

n.b. the ickly one will be "his daughter", she gets a label too.



Ivy, phew!

I like your style.

CP

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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/24/2008 5:24:57 PM   
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A collar is what the people involved in the relationship  have decided it  to mean....it can mean everything to some.. nothing to others..it can be some thing you can reach up and touch .. or just feeling in your heart ...to me it is just like every  other aspect of this  lifestyle...each relationship is unique and designed by the people involed... there is no right or wrong.. there is no black and white ... to each their own .

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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/26/2008 10:24:42 PM   
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Good Evening,

I have a collar...an eternity style.   My Lord and I bought it together...after we had a written contract for us.

I will admit that I think it got purchased originally becuase "we" thought it was a requirement or we needed one.   It was (and still is) used as an attachement point, or a hold to pull me closer.   Now it's become a symbol of who I am.   I am a woman who enjoys her submissive nature and is not afraid of it.  (I used to be.)  For me the collar means I am his.   It does give me a sense of security.   I will play with it when I'm nervous or just for the fun of it.   I would say that the meaning evolves with the growth of the relationship. 

I agree that it's very hard to explain sometimes.   My mom hates it, she'd love it if it came off.   I'm not sure if it's because she has some inkling of what it could mean or what.  Most times I explain it as a choker.   I've actually gotten compliments from the 'nillas about it and wondered where they could get one. 

Just my $0.02...

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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/28/2008 8:20:07 AM   
CelticPrince


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A collar is what the people involved in the relationship have decided it to mean....it can mean everything to some.. nothing to others..it can be some thing you can reach up and touch .. or just feeling in your heart ...to me it is just like every other aspect of this lifestyle...each relationship is unique and designed by the people involed... there is no right or wrong.. there is no black and white ... to each their own .


drkness2,

Your points are accepted of course, but can you grant that it appears to have a universal meaning to the path walkers as a whole.

CP

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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/28/2008 7:44:22 PM   
CelticPrince


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Good Evening,

I have a collar...an eternity style. My Lord and I bought it together...after we had a written contract for us.

I will admit that I think it got purchased originally becuase "we" thought it was a requirement or we needed one. It was (and still is) used as an attachement point, or a hold to pull me closer. Now it's become a symbol of who I am. I am a woman who enjoys her submissive nature and is not afraid of it. (I used to be.) For me the collar means I am his. It does give me a sense of security. I will play with it when I'm nervous or just for the fun of it. I would say that the meaning evolves with the growth of the relationship.

I agree that it's very hard to explain sometimes. My mom hates it, she'd love it if it came off. I'm not sure if it's because she has some inkling of what it could mean or what. Most times I explain it as a choker. I've actually gotten compliments from the 'nillas about it and wondered where they could get one.

Just my $0.02...


Phedre,

Smiles. sounds like the two of you just sortta found your way on the path. Good on you both and good fortune.

CP

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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/28/2008 9:04:46 PM   
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pssssssttt... only one answer is acceptable.


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ORIGINAL: masterofdrkness2

A collar is what the people involved in the relationship  have decided it  to mean....it can mean everything to some.. nothing to others..it can be some thing you can reach up and touch .. or just feeling in your heart ...to me it is just like every  other aspect of this  lifestyle...each relationship is unique and designed by the people involed... there is no right or wrong.. there is no black and white ... to each their own .

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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/29/2008 12:16:10 AM   
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My submissive's collar is something I made myself, so it has the significance of being something into which I have put thought and creativity. I know it means a lot to him that his collar has been 'personalized' for him.

For him and myself, it also means that he is my lover - but also my submissive. That he is only mine and cannot/ wishes not to be anyone else's submissive/ lover.

It's a device which I use to tug on his neck playfully or gently, but also with a great amount of forcefulness.

It's a daily ritual: I tie the collar around his neck myself.

For me, it's also something I love to have on him when he's naked in our place together. In public, I love having it peek out from under his shirt collar, or having it disguised entirely. I like that it's subtle enough to be only our secret, or revealed enough to make people slightly curious.

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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/29/2008 1:28:19 PM   
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t's a device which I use to tug on his neck playfully or gently, but also with a great amount of forcefulness.


khantengri

I like that sort of quiet reminder, classy.

CP

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