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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/8/2008 8:07:50 AM   
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A ownership.
Property.
Symbolic.
Same as wedding ring.
Transient.
Restrictions.
Sense of belonging.
Fashion Statement.
Neck Attire.
Any bodily Attire.
 
Depending on your choice, all or some or none of the above.
 
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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/8/2008 8:34:30 AM   
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The collar is the stereotypical symbol for expressing some degree of commitment or attachment in a D/S or M/S relationship.

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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/8/2008 8:36:32 AM   
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my collar signifies that i am someone's property, that i am not a free person. unfortunately, this is not something understood universally, and most who see me in my collar would assume i'm just into some punk/goth scene or at best into "kinky" sex. but i believe that the manner in which i carry myself in addition to my collar makes it more clear that i am a slave, not someone making a fashion statement.


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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/8/2008 8:54:20 AM   
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I think a collar is like a wedding ring in-that it show that the submissive is in a commited relationship, the sigificance of that collar goes much deeper for the submissive or slave wearing it of course, it's much more about being owned, mind, body and soul by the Mistress or Master.

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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/8/2008 8:56:48 AM   
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to this slave, the gist of it is ownership and a representation of this slave's commitment to serve the one who put it on this slave's neck, or whoever HE directs her to serve.
 
it remains until Master, or the coroner, takes it off.

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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/8/2008 9:53:10 AM   
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There may be many different levels of collars.  My Master uses 4, I talked to one Dom that uses 10, and in such cases you progressively move up through them.  I've seen "public" collars.

There are times when I wear mine when I am alone just to feel that my Master is with me.  I typically take it on business trips with me and sleep in it.  On my last trip I was told to leave it behind so that I would miss it, and was amazed at how much more alone I felt. 


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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/8/2008 10:25:43 AM   
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A collar no matter which form it may take; be that ring, bracelet, or...Collar. Is worn by the submissive to express the master's statement of "This one belongs to me, Body, mind and sould". While at the same time it allows the Submissive to state "I live to serve and obey".

And in another way it says "If you can't see the wedding ring, this also means i'm off limits"



couple.

Well for certain the off limits cannot be a source of counterpoint. Thanks for your input.

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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/8/2008 10:25:45 AM   
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I think that I agree a bit with you.  Sometimes I find too much emphasis put on "a collar" ... I feel like the emphasis should be on the relationship.  Certainly the collar may be a symbol but as many have said that varies.

No one wears my collar all the time right now.  I am however in a fully committed relationship.  We don't need the collar to make that clear to anyone, including us. 

I have another relationship that I'm committed to.  Sometimes, when we play, I put a collar on him -- its just another toy.  Unfortunately, its a collar and so it carries a lot of meaning for some, but for us, its a play collar -- all the better to grab him if I need to -- his hair is too short to get much of.


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ORIGINAL: greenearth21

sometimes i feel like i'm the only one who doesnt think so much of a collar. (no offense to anyone or their beliefs)...but then again I will be honest in saying that its something I havent fully experienced either (at least not to the degree of it being worth talking about).  Although I have spoken to enough people, read enough post and even fantasized about it and itjust...doesnt really seem like the IT of the relationship. 
I believe i can be fully devoted to a dominant man, serve him well and as long as I am satisfied, content and happy in the dynamic of the relationship....a piece of metal or leather wouldnt make the relationship any more real or kinky.  I have had conversations with a few men who consider and some who are dominant, where the main thing is "when i collar...this" when I put my collar...that" and its like...sheesh...could we just focus on the "here and now" than "there".
I realize that to some or a sub a collar is the ultimate gift of feeling owned...cant you be owned without one?  I can really relate to the dominant side of placing a collar on a lady but...maybe someone can help with that.
I am not negative regarding the topicof collars whatsoever...and I strongly believe that if/when i receive one...i'll be happy if not more than that.  But if i never get it...it wont make a difference as long as the things that truly matter within the relationship are there.

again: this wasn't / isn't intended to offend anyone.  If you have a flame or an attack...pass on.  Questions are certainly of interest to me...perhaps i'll realize/learn something new.


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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/8/2008 10:28:02 AM   
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It started off as a sign of ownership for me.  It still is.

It has also evolved into an engagement ring, quite literally.  My engagement ring is now a part of my collar.

Is it symbolic?  I suppose you could say it's symbolic of unity I have in the "sides" of my life.  I can be her fiance, someday her husband, and her slave at the same time.  I don't have to live a double life.  The collar is symbolic of that.

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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/8/2008 10:28:47 AM   
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I'd say the gist is that it means a sub it taken.


lost,

Well taken is a fairly simplistic view, I hope there is more to it than that.

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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/8/2008 10:31:40 AM   
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For us it was symbolic of a long term commitment. I was owned for 6 months or so before I was collared. I received his collar when he felt I had reached a level of commitment to him, to my slavery, and to learning all that he wanted me to learn. It was when we both came to fully understand I was ready to walk the talk. In turn, it also signified that he was committed to staying the course with me, through my setbacks and hiccoughs along the way (I had a long way to go at the time), based on his overall pleasure with owning me and on his pleasure with my commitment to him.

It wasn't a promise of forever. It is not on par with a wedding ring. It signified we had reached a level with each other that we were both committed to evolving. It was a huge deal to me to receive that level of commitment from him, and for my own intentions to be so trusted.


girlie,

you bring up an interesting point when you state I was owned for 6 months prior to a collar. How did that status become known to the path walkers?

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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/8/2008 10:34:01 AM   
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Hence why the search function exists.


LA,

Of course the threads are searchable, but they do not allow folks to voice their current view, now do they?

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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/8/2008 10:44:42 AM   
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All I know is I want one,and she can tell me exactly what it means to Her as She clasp's it around my neck(or anywhere else she might like to plce one)

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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/8/2008 2:22:01 PM   
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quote:

again: this wasn't / isn't intended to offend anyone. If you have a flame or an attack...pass on. Questions are certainly of interest to me...perhaps i'll realize/learn something new.

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greenearth,

relax, you have offended no one with candid comments. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/8/2008 2:26:29 PM   
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For me, a collar is more precious to me than a ring or any other form of jewelry.


Angel, good on ya girl!

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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/8/2008 2:45:52 PM   
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The first time I wore a collar in public someone that had no idea of bdsm (that I know of) asked me why I wore it, she said to me that she trained dogs and that a collar meant 1 of 2 things.  
Either you where mean (indictive of aggressive dogs and ofcourse the more punk fasion statement)
or you belonged to someone or wanted to be owned like a pet. 
this ofcourse is from someone that is not familer with the bdsm aspect of it. 
my responce of course was.. "I'm not mean" ;)
then she said she wanted to put a leash on me and train me :P  though she was joking.. I think. 

I never wear a collar anymore unless it's put on me by someone else or I'm told to put it on.   What it means to me now is a little different then what it meant to me 10-15 years ago.   It use to be a feeling of submission and release of my inner self and inner desires.   now it is more a symbol of security a feeling of being loved and wanted for who I am.   A feeling of acceptance and a reminder that i am owned.   Though right now my collar sits in a box as I am not owned right now, so am often insecure and feel somewhat lost.   I don't really need to wear it physically though all the time when I am in a relationship, but it's nice to have that reminder from time to time espcialy when it's attached to a leash. :)  


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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/8/2008 6:26:59 PM   
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quote:

It's an outward appearance of one's intent.


smilezz,

"intent" ??

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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/8/2008 6:29:19 PM   
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for me it symbolizes my commitment to my M'Lady and to my poly family. i am married and collared to different persons. my M'Lady and i are both married and have children not by each other. i am faithful to my wife and submissive to my M'Lady and respectfully to my M'Ladys husband. each of them has a say in what i am allowed to do and communication is open to each. my collar both my formal leather one and my vanilla one, are very important to me and value them most highly. this is how i view my collar and not how anyone else may do so.

proudly collared by LadyPact


littleclip,

sounds complicated, especially with a vanilla collar.

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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/8/2008 6:31:20 PM   
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I dont feel any different about DominusDolor now than I did before He collared me. There was already a level of commitment to Him that I have never experienced before. But I find myself reaching up frequently to touch it. Its a visible, tangible reminder that someone loves me, looks out for my best interests and claims me as His own. Being separated by distance, it helps keep me centered on what I am. Since I dont see Him as often as we both would like, I need that reminder in my daily life.

< Message edited by bookworm966 -- 7/7/2008 8:27:07 PM >


bookworm,

very nicely put; thanks for your input.

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RE: The actual gist of a Collar? - 7/8/2008 6:34:10 PM   
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To me My collar states that my Master found the true me inside, where others only looked at the surface. He saw the good girl, the Bad girl and a devilish women , who never before felt free to talk about her dark dreams or let them out. I feel that he states he wants and takes all of me, good and bad. For me this is acceptance of unconditional love for the first time. To belong to someone who loves all of me and will use it all, the good and THE BAD <http://www.collarchat.com/image/s2.gif>


opensoul,

Indeed it appears that you were found by a fine experienced Master.

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