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RE: Are slaves allowed opinions - 11/13/2005 9:15:12 AM   
mnottertail


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fyrered,

I often post with the one-liner seemingly dis-connected sentence and lotsa
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I think I know what that means... I feel the same...

Ron
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RE: Are slaves allowed opinions - 11/13/2005 9:16:53 AM   
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thank you Ron...i'm glad someone understood the point i was attempting to make before i had enough caffeine.


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fyrered,

I often post with the one-liner seemingly dis-connected sentence and lotsa
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..............
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I think I know what that means... I feel the same...

Ron
(this is not a rip-off, more at admiration for keeping it together at all)

SMILES!



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RE: Are slaves allowed opinions - 11/13/2005 9:21:03 AM   
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is it just me or is the post i made this morning gone now.....???????????
it was on page 4 ??????????
goes back for more java
and tries to find it on computer history to repost if its possible.

the post was removed. i had a message from the mod. i had overstepped my bounds. i will NOT be reposting it. sorry for the confusion people...i was just trying to get back on track

< Message edited by fyreredsub -- 11/13/2005 9:37:49 AM >


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RE: Are slaves allowed opinions - 11/13/2005 9:22:46 AM   
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That's gotta be frustrating for the OP.


Ok, lets say it is frustrating - although I dont think that online thread on message board can truly cause such deep frustrations - but tell me honestly, did you ever manage to solve really frustrating situations by screaming and loosing your temper in public? If you did, congratulations. I, on the other hand, find that only strict control over myself and calming down can help me solve frustrating situations that involve other people.
I have plenty of that on my work and trust me, if I started to scream around on my collegues I would just make things worse.

I know that great scene in Cabaret when Lisa Minelli screams out her frustrations, but it just doesnt work that way every time one is frustrated.

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RE: Are slaves allowed opinions - 11/13/2005 9:23:00 AM   
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I'm allowed opinions. Then again, I handle much of Master's business for him. This is one of the ways I serve him.
I couldn't do that if I weren't allowed opinions. Master wouldn't own someone who couldn't handle their own lives, much less help with his.

There are someone who wish their slave not to have opinions, that's ok. Just a different style, and one isn't better or worse than the other. Just different.

Tempest's pet
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RE: Are slaves allowed opinions - 11/13/2005 9:40:17 AM   
Guest
Let's try to follow the great example set by jennifer and continue to focus on the thread.Lets leave personal attacks and thoughts on individuals off forum and in private so the discussion on 'Are Slaves Allowed Opinions' can continue.

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RE: Are slaves allowed opinions - 11/13/2005 10:00:21 AM   
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it would seem this girl is extremely opinionated but it as of yet hasn't caused trouble w/ Sir.

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RE: Are slaves allowed opinions - 11/13/2005 10:06:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: fyreredsub

it would seem this girl is extremely opinionated but it as of yet hasn't caused trouble w/ Sir.


~Roars with laughter~ Good on you lass that had me spluttering with my 4am caffine fix....

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RE: Are slaves allowed opinions - 11/13/2005 10:13:59 AM   
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thank you IronBear, my mouth does sometimes tend to overload my ass,,,getting a post removed is a PEFECT example of my being too opinionated sometimes.....but i do amuse Sir and evidently you as well. glad i brought some laughter into your morning, i needed that as i am still pouting. however there is a bright side-i'm not on moderated status


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quote:

ORIGINAL: fyreredsub

it would seem this girl is extremely opinionated but it as of yet hasn't caused trouble w/ Sir.


~Roars with laughter~ Good on you lass that had me spluttering with my 4am caffine fix....



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RE: Are slaves allowed opinions - 11/13/2005 10:20:30 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: fyreredsub

it would seem this girl is extremely opinionated but it as of yet hasn't caused trouble w/ Sir.

you and i both, and sometimes i feel that i could express them a little less vehemently, but i'm working on that. doesn't help being irish and southern, but with perseverance, i'll hopefully get there without being too much worse for it.

we all have opinions, but again, it is how, where, and in what manner that we choose to express them that shows the reflection of not only who we are, but of any Domianants/Masters/Mistresses whom we also reflect. i wish you all well.

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RE: Are slaves allowed opinions - 11/13/2005 10:21:56 AM   
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Greetings,

Here is the point where many think a slave/kajria is a doormat because she hasnt any limits or is only allowed them by thier Owner. I see a struggle from within many submissives about slaves being less than they are and many stand up and shout that a slave's opinoin should be her Masters opinions.......WRONG.......I values what my slaves have to say and how they feel but let this also be understood I WONT let their opinoin judge how I will control them at any given time. If I and the slave feel that a boundry is about to be crossed or pushed this is where I communicate with them but on a logical level without letting emotions guide the experience. I think that this almost falls under my thread about emotional limits. I see many many persons that let their emotions rule thier Masters/Mistresses/Dom/Sir's. Logic can overcome any emotion and the guidence and compassion of a Godd Master can overcome these issues.

Master Six

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RE: Are slaves allowed opinions - 11/13/2005 10:27:48 AM   
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common ground we have in our background..just throw in some sicilian...wonder if thats my problem. guess i will work on it some,lol.
i had expressed myself rather eloquantly,,,well maybe more brutal honesty .lol....like i said it hasn't brought me punishment from sir........

shrugs shoulders.........


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ORIGINAL: girl4you2

quote:

ORIGINAL: fyreredsub

it would seem this girl is extremely opinionated but it as of yet hasn't caused trouble w/ Sir.

you and i both, and sometimes i feel that i could express them a little less vehemently, but i'm working on that. doesn't help being irish and southern, but with perseverance, i'll hopefully get there without being too much worse for it.

we all have opinions, but again, it is how, where, and in what manner that we choose to express them that shows the reflection of not only who we are, but of any Domianants/Masters/Mistresses whom we also reflect. i wish you all well.



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RE: Are slaves allowed opinions - 11/13/2005 10:48:21 AM   
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If i had not opinions, what would be fun aboute me for my Master then? sex? sex can be fun but make up only a tiny part of the whole of a relationship, even if one rules and the other obeys do not mean that one is a mindless robot. While it might be pepole that want a living blow up Barbara, most want a living, thinking breathing person.

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RE: Are slaves allowed opinions - 11/13/2005 12:01:02 PM   
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Since starting this Thread many people keep commenting on the Master in which i serve...but with this topic its not very important.Moderator 10 got to the point...lets stick to the topic of "THIS" thread and not others.Yes, i am a slave and my opinions are very simular to the Master i serve but Master has always allowed me to voice my thoughts...like one of the other posters said if they wanted someone without thoughts they would collar a blow up doll. There are a few ,no names given, that do not like Master or i...which is their choice but some need to relize that this is just a topic...not war...if you want to see war go somewhere else.

The topic was: Are slaves allowed opinions.....
a good answer might of been ,no...because, or yes...because.....

Not "your topic is just like your Master's other topic"

Please stick to the OP and not some off the wall crap

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RE: Are slaves allowed opinions - 11/13/2005 12:04:42 PM   
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quote:

but some need to relize that this is just a topic...not war...if you want to see war go somewhere else.


Bravo, bravo, some seam to think that it is so inportant to be right, to win a discussion, but there is no winners or loosers in a discussion, only the discussion itself and what one can learn along the way. This is not the place to fight the wars of ego.

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RE: Are slaves allowed opinions - 11/13/2005 12:04:44 PM   
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i'd guess its a good thing i do not belong to you Ma'am..Master likes me showing how i feel.....i'm not a mute and thats the way Master likes it

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RE: Are slaves allowed opinions - 11/13/2005 12:06:19 PM   
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Thank you nephandi.....i wasnt wanting a "Oh yes all slaves can have opinions" the whole time. i've always liked diffrent opinions as long as they come across is a very constructive way.....

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RE: Are slaves allowed opinions - 11/13/2005 12:17:21 PM   
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Logic can overcome any emotion


That's comforting to *believe*, but not necessarily true.

Logic and emotion are completely unrelated. Sometimes, by understanding the logic of a situation, you can change the emotion involved, or simply over-rule it.

But sometimes, it just doesn't work.

Logic and emotion do not speak the same language.

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RE: Are slaves allowed opinions - 11/13/2005 12:38:45 PM   
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i agree, for example, i love discussing whit pepole whit totaly different opinions than me, as long as the discussion is polite and constructive. Some pepole however can not stand if somone have another opinion of themself, they are right and everybody else is wrong, i know i somtimes get angry and bite back, but i try to not, for that definitly dont make things more constructive.

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RE: Are slaves allowed opinions - 11/13/2005 12:40:39 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ImpGrrl


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ORIGINAL: SirSix72
Logic can overcome any emotion


That's comforting to *believe*, but not necessarily true.

Logic and emotion are completely unrelated. Sometimes, by understanding the logic of a situation, you can change the emotion involved, or simply over-rule it.

But sometimes, it just doesn't work.

Logic and emotion do not speak the same language.


I completely agree with this -

This is akin to the (absolutist approach) "A dominant must conrol their emotions".

Never gonna happen, as long as people remain human.

~J

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