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ORIGINAL: subtee  So... because you weren't living in the vacinity others' expressions and feelings are disingenuous? Wow. 

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ORIGINAL: cuddlemesoft1

Bottom line I think the televised memorials and those that profit from them are wrong. Yes it should never be forgotten and our children's children should learn from the experience as we have hopefully learned from our fore father's past experiences. But to play on-going news reels at this point is a little offensive to those who want to remember "or forget" as they so choose. Just my opinion.

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ORIGINAL: subtee

You don't want to see this post. This is sad. And, I think, completely inappropriate to post on this day.

I'm sorry your Mom was harsh to you, but damn. Our country was attacked. It means nothing? You're annoyed with peoples' feelings about it?
Sad.

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ORIGINAL: subtee

Jesus...I honestly can't believe this. And I'm feeling rather like an alien for feeling like there should be some fucking respect for our country being attacked and 3000 people dying. You're thinking about the bother of traffic?

I fucking remember much of the world standing with us and crying with us, taking a moment of silence. This is shameful.

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ORIGINAL: aravain

:\ I don't understand why it's so important to you that some random bunch of text on the internet feels that same way as you do.

Honestly? It's very childish.

I understand that some people will never be the same, whether they were connected to the attacks or not (my own mother is one of those people) but at the same time, that shouldn't be cause for me to be as deeply affected as another person.

AAAAAAAAAND I qualified my post with the fact that I put strange values on human life...

namely that there isn't any.

But that's another story entirely.

All-in-all, I think it's bad taste to be taking a moral high-ground with someone (in this case me) who you don't know, whose ideologies you don't know, and who you can't even begin to imagine.

Mourning doesn't make *sense* to me. To me it seems like an insult to those who are gone. To me, mourning someone, especially a person that you've never known, is one of the biggest displays of DISrespect that you can show someone who's passed. :\ And honey, by trying to insist that everyone should mourn for other people in order to be 'human' you're making a pretty big leap as to what constitutes the word.

It's a species. We're an animal. Nothing more, nothing less. Don't try to put some sort of standard or degree of 'humanness' on people based on your own moral/ethical/whatever dictations. We're all different... different thoughts, different feelings, and, most of all, different beliefs.

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ORIGINAL: K7779

I don't really believe the world has changed after 9/11 in any substantial way whatsoever. In a hundred years or so, if not already, the whole event will seem like a shadow among shadows in the wake of World War II. To up the ante, I might add that possibly very little progress has really occurred at all in the last 50 years, or ever. It's like... the industrialized West goes about murdering, pillaging, corrupting, feigning some control over the universe, the weak stealing from the weaker for what ultimate gain... penicillin, Rocky Mountains? For some lucky but ultimately un-unique few whose unimportant lives are extended a few unimportant years. Bravo. Don't worry -- they would have dropped an atom bomb instead, they just didn't have the money, and hijacking a plan is a lot cheaper.

The change that I haven't witnessed is acknowledgment that this struggle in which human beings and all animals participate is born out of weakness, not strength. Competition is weakness; the winner in any competition is not the stronger, but the less weak. Progress, change, would be to become beings that universally are above competition, above struggle for things as simple as clean water and, yes, penicillin, capable of sustaining themselves and anyone that seeks sustenance, for as long as they desire.