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ORIGINAL: simpleplan2

Could you explain that please?  No "rational reason for being that way"

I mean despite what people will tell you..there is no good reason for responding in a bristly manner. You may think you have to or that it's needed but the truth is you want to. There are plenty of ways to deal with others that doesn't include attitude. Believe me I'm fully aware that people loose their patience from time to time. Still doesn't make it okay.

Maybe I read into the words a little, still though.

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ORIGINAL: masterforRT

I think way too many people here are WAY too uppety and need to lower the rhetoric down a few notches....on in the case of some subs here, be put over their Doms' knees and receive a good spanking!

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

What's wrong with that?

It doesn't have that ring of "uberness" some so desperately need.  Me, if I was born anything, it was a domineering asshole.  I had to LEARN to be a loving nurturing dominant and it was, and is, a long slow process, one that I certainly hope I will never be done with.

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ORIGINAL: Icarys
I mean despite what people will tell you..there is no good reason for responding in a bristly manner. You may think you have to or that it's needed but the truth is you want to. There are plenty of ways to deal with others that doesn't include attitude. Believe me I'm fully aware that people loose their patience from time to time. Still doesn't make it okay.

Maybe I read into the words a little, still though.

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

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ORIGINAL: Icarys

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ORIGINAL: simpleplan2

Could you explain that please?  No "rational reason for being that way"

I mean despite what people will tell you..there is no good reason for responding in a bristly manner. You may think you have to or that it's needed but the truth is you want to. There are plenty of ways to deal with others that doesn't include attitude. Believe me I'm fully aware that people loose their patience from time to time. Still doesn't make it okay.

Maybe I read into the words a little, still though.

I believe that there is substance to what you say though.  I believe (and I could be wrong, has been known) that the 'bristling' stems from the whole 'earn respect' mantra.  I can't remember if it was on this thread - but someone mentioned about reactions to the 'on your knees bitch' emails too.
 
Whilst I completely understand the reactions to these (I have been on the recieving end and have had to bite my tongue) - I personally tend to find it counter productive and its one of those things hey - two 'wrongs' do not make a 'right'.  I still fuck up.  I still bristle at times.  But on the whole I try.  But sometimes people get to a point where they are so tired that trying gets very hard and exhausting.
 
the.dark.

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ORIGINAL: simpleplan2

I think maybe it is more of a case of losing patience.  As I posted above, I tried to be polite and tell the man I wasn't looking.  Apparently, that wasn't the answer he wanted.  I simply dropped it (well, I came here and bitched) but I didn't send back the answer I wanted.  More and more, it's simply not worth it.

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Putting that aside there are going to be jaded people on here who have lost sight of what it is they initally got involved for and maybe are less than submissive but I stick my my earlier point in that event dont get mad just find someone else

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ORIGINAL: umakemewanna

Just because you are slave, doesn't mean you aren't human ....you are so you still should be treated with respect and dignity.
Being a slave is a way of life, that HUMANS live.If you were truly to treat someone like a doormat pretty sure they would die at an early stage in life, frankly a human body can't put up with being treated like a doormat.

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ORIGINAL: Aslanemperor

You have to be submissive to be a submissive. 

I disagree.  This is the first relationship I've ever been in where I don't actively run the show, out of an agreement from the start.  I'm not submissive by nature.  My nature is to take the reins, kick the person out of the driver's seat, and show them how to drive.  The past 5 years have been a decision to hand that over to Him, trusting that He will not do harm to me.

I'm not a submissive, but rather His submissive.  Our dynamics are our own, and He is securely in the Top spot. 

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ORIGINAL: umakemewanna

Just because you are slave, doesn't mean you aren't human ....you are so you still should be treated with respect and dignity.
Being a slave is a way of life, that HUMANS live.If you were truly to treat someone like a doormat pretty sure they would die at an early stage in life, frankly a human body can't put up with being treated like a doormat.

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ORIGINAL: umakemewanna

Just because you are slave, doesn't mean you aren't human ....you are so you still should be treated with respect and dignity.
Being a slave is a way of life, that HUMANS live.If you were truly to treat someone like a doormat pretty sure they would die at an early stage in life, frankly a human body can't put up with being treated like a doormat.

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ORIGINAL: SlayerZ

I just think it's sad that subs/slaves feel like they have to underline and punch the fact that being a submissive doesn't equate to being a doormat. I think the very fact that subs/slaves feel like they have to make that very point says more about the standard, the expectation and the sheer manner of Doms that it does about them.

I've read stories about subs here receiving personal messages from complete strangers (Doms) who are so abrupt and so rude and so very presumptuous, to the point where that I feel deeply embarrassed for them. It doesn't take a lot of energy to be nice and to be friendly and to attempt a foundation of something more substantial than "You are mine. Got it? Good. Now lick the dirt off my shoes, for I don't want to waste my brand new doormat" and for a Dom to initiate contact with a sub with the heading "Bow down and kiss my feet, for I am your master and you are my slave - You are nothing and I am everything. Your values, your worth as well as your very existence are in my hands" is really out of order, as well as clueless.

Sure, I was paraphrasing, but you get the gist.

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ORIGINAL: SlayerZ

I just think it's sad that subs/slaves feel like they have to underline and punch the fact that being a submissive doesn't equate to being a doormat. I think the very fact that subs/slaves feel like they have to make that very point says more about the standard, the expectation and the sheer manner of Doms that it does about them.

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ORIGINAL: beargonewild

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ORIGINAL: umakemewanna

Just because you are slave, doesn't mean you aren't human ....you are so you still should be treated with respect and dignity.
Being a slave is a way of life, that HUMANS live.If you were truly to treat someone like a doormat pretty sure they would die at an early stage in life, frankly a human body can't put up with being treated like a doormat.

I don't believe any poster on this thread stated that a slave was less than human. As it was pointed out to myself earlier on, being a doormat does not necessary mean it's a negative thing. As a couple posters had enlightened me on how it can be a positive situation. (my thanks for the .dark and a couple other posters for this enlightenment!)
   Just take notice that each of us has a different perspective to what we define a "doormat" is and it's neither right or wrong, just how we perceive the term based upon our individual experiences.

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ORIGINAL: SlayerZ

I just think it's sad that subs/slaves feel like they have to underline and punch the fact that being a submissive doesn't equate to being a doormat. I think the very fact that subs/slaves feel like they have to make that very point says more about the standard, the expectation and the sheer manner of Doms that it does about them.

I've read stories about subs here receiving personal messages from complete strangers (Doms) who are so abrupt and so rude and so very presumptuous, to the point where that I feel deeply embarrassed for them. It doesn't take a lot of energy to be nice and to be friendly and to attempt a foundation of something more substantial than "You are mine. Got it? Good. Now lick the dirt off my shoes, for I don't want to waste my brand new doormat" and for a Dom to initiate contact with a sub with the heading "Bow down and kiss my feet, for I am your master and you are my slave - You are nothing and I am everything. Your values, your worth as well as your very existence are in my hands" is really out of order, as well as clueless.

Sure, I was paraphrasing, but you get the gist.

In my view, I see that as plain rudeness and isn't exclusive to the world of D/s.

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ORIGINAL: HornyToadsMI

It is sad.....it is a lack of respect for ones self as well as for others.  But it is a fact of life, no matter where you go, there will be that one "guy" who comes up, pinches your ass, and thinks that he is "Superman" and every woman will sleep with him.  He is where you work, at your church, at the grocery store...

(Not meant to be a slam on guys in general....just an example). 

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ORIGINAL: SlayerZ

I just think it's sad that subs/slaves feel like they have to underline and punch the fact that being a submissive doesn't equate to being a doormat. I think the very fact that subs/slaves feel like they have to make that very point says more about the standard, the expectation and the sheer manner of Doms that it does about them.

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ORIGINAL: SlayerZ

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ORIGINAL: beargonewild

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ORIGINAL: SlayerZ

I just think it's sad that subs/slaves feel like they have to underline and punch the fact that being a submissive doesn't equate to being a doormat. I think the very fact that subs/slaves feel like they have to make that very point says more about the standard, the expectation and the sheer manner of Doms that it does about them.

I've read stories about subs here receiving personal messages from complete strangers (Doms) who are so abrupt and so rude and so very presumptuous, to the point where that I feel deeply embarrassed for them. It doesn't take a lot of energy to be nice and to be friendly and to attempt a foundation of something more substantial than "You are mine. Got it? Good. Now lick the dirt off my shoes, for I don't want to waste my brand new doormat" and for a Dom to initiate contact with a sub with the heading "Bow down and kiss my feet, for I am your master and you are my slave - You are nothing and I am everything. Your values, your worth as well as your very existence are in my hands" is really out of order, as well as clueless.

Sure, I was paraphrasing, but you get the gist.

In my view, I see that as plain rudeness and isn't exclusive to the world of D/s.

I wouldn't be particularly inclined to argue with that.

It does happen here a lot, though. I would even suggest that it happens on here more than any other D/s / BDSM site. From a personal point of view I've messaged a few subs on here and I've never received a reply. I can only interupt that as them saying "Oh god, not another self-important douchebag who wants me to be his sub after 2 messages" - Hell, I've even read a few profiles where subs actually say that.