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RE: what is it with girls having masters double their age? - 12/9/2005 10:37:48 PM

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*grins* And I'm sure LA will back me up when I say I am NOT a buff, cut, stud muffin with 6-pack abs. I'm definitely a "bear" built for comfort, not speed!

LOL true, perhaps with an updated style of glasses you'd be a GQ man in 20 seconds...but your voice and glare speak for themselves, and that's something no amount of Armani could give.

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RE: what is it with girls having masters double their age? - 12/9/2005 10:39:48 PM

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So younger doms can start threads on boards asking about why young subs want a guy who is old wrinkly and needs a little blue pill to satisfy their needs and even then needs to take a breaks every now and then.

I personally ADORE those little pills.

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RE: what is it with girls having masters double their age? - 12/9/2005 10:47:41 PM

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To the original OP

you aren't even old enough to go to any clubs, at least you wouldn't be in Sacramento. Or drink or gamble or anything you have to be over 21 to do. I'm only 23 myself but I wouldn't want a dom who wasn't old enough to take me to bdsm clubs, Or treat me to a trip to a casino. Or even come to a bar with me to listen to local talent night./

And you come across very rude and imature with your comment about beer belly doms who can't even walk up a flight of stairs. If I had ever had any interest in a guy your age that rudeness would have crossed you off any interest I had. Rudeness and nasty comments like that are not traits I want in any man.

I am not bear bellied or old and I can't walk up stairs to well because I broke both my ankles falling when I was a teen and as a young girl, There's a lot of stuff I can't do properly and I'm not old or beer bellied.

And most of the older men don't have that cock sure holier than tho I look good cause I am young and you're an old fart attitude. Looks fade bodies get flabbier as we age but good manners are timeless.

I'm not saying all older people have better manners but their a lot less rude than young people sometimes.

For instance I have never heard someone 30 say to someone 20 ew you're older than dirt you sicko, and I have heard young people in their early 20's disparage older people as being sicko's and dirty old men or woman for being older.

I also want someone older than me because they're more experinced usualy and are at a place in their life* usualy not always* to provide the time and care a submisive needs. Also with in limits I am attracted to older men. Most but certaintly not all respect women have their shit together know what they're doing and the age diffrence can facilitate into fantasy play of older man takes younger girl under their wing

What do you bring to the table. Do you have the resources to learn to use dangerous toys properly. Do you know that bdsm can be life threatening done wrongly. Do you know that a bull whip breaks the sound barrier and can break skin and bones.

Have you bothered to learn anything about toys and how to do them safely.

are you finacially stable enough to outfit a dungion, to get the equipment that specialty needs require to do. Are you secure enough in your own person to be humble and not think you're better than someone else just cause they're old.

Do you have the time to dedicate to a sub or slave. Are you experinced enough to know not to hit a person in their kidnies with a whip.

Do you know your anatomy, do you know you can break a tail bone so not to hit the bones.

Have you taken the time to learn CPR or basic first aid in case something you were doing has gone wrong.

Would you know what to do if you tied a sub up and she fainted? Or fell and sprained something, or knocked their head and went lights out.

Are you in charge of your life enough to insist on saftey measures, like safe sex and not playing alone with a partner you don't know. Subs can claim you raped them when you didn't it's happend before. Do you respect yourself enough to demand to know that partners Are drug and disease free. Do you have any credibility that you're safe sane and consentual and a good person in good standing with a local lifestyle comunity.

Can you afford to be seen at lifestyle events or do you have to hide from every one. Are you gainfully employed or have some other legal source of income

Ect ect ecyt

Maybe they aren't really rejecting young doms like you.
Maybe they're rejecting you.

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RE: what is it with girls having masters double their age? - 12/9/2005 10:50:23 PM

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I personally ADORE those little pills.

LOL

I never tried them....never had a need lmao

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RE: what is it with girls having masters double their age? - 12/9/2005 11:01:11 PM

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A) why judge people on something they had absolutely no influence over

B) just because it is not your kink does not make it FORBIDDEN

C) there is people that do not fit in little square boxes with their round shapes - spikey demeanors and open ended minds

keep that in mind when you cry - WHY IS THER NO ICE CREAM FOR ME!!!!

(PSST..........you havn't earned the ice cream yet)
be patient my impatient friend

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RE: what is it with girls having masters double their age? - 12/9/2005 11:35:49 PM

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greetings mercm jm
it's really simple....
nobody wants to teach anybody
you can relax
and you know an older woman doesnt have to read a book first to know what type of sex you're really ,into....besides that theres something about the end skin thing,too,but i .......guess you just gotta be there kinda thing to know what im taking about.....

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RE: what is it with girls having masters double their age? - 12/9/2005 11:47:32 PM

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i personally have found that at least for me, i can seem to relate to them better. The older generations have so much that they can offer us. But then i have always been attacked to older men.

LOL... attacked to older men huh?... looked like I typed that.

But I agree with you here. I mean though Bratt Pitt might be pretty to look at, I'll take Sean Connery any day of the week.

But all the men in my life have always been 5-20 years older than me. I admit now a days I do look closer to my age. But still prefer older than me.

I think it has something to do with looking at the sexy 36 year old standing there and thinking.. Damn he's the same age as my brother!

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RE: what is it with girls having masters double their age? - 12/9/2005 11:56:18 PM

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Females by nature generally seek out experienced males. From a Darwinian point of view, an older, healthy and successful male has proven his genetic fitness and often has much more to offer a female than younger, less experienced males. You could look at it as a hardwired breeding strategy, or simply a more all-encompassing tendency in human nature to seek knowledge from the upper tiers of greatness and wisdom, which often are made brick by golden brick of age and true experience.

There is knowing, and there is knowing. Usually only the older even understand what that means. But don't worry, friend; we'll all get there soon enough. Don't rush it. ;)

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RE: what is it with girls having masters double their age? - 12/10/2005 12:21:19 AM

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Here's the deal from my point of view as a 23 year old woman.

My first Master was 31 when I was 18. He was experienced and mature and trained me to be the best I could be and the best that he wanted. We had a great relationship and I learned much from him.

My current Master is 24, almost exactly a year older than me. When we met, he was a total novice Dom and I was doing all of the training, myself. However, the passion and excitement of learning new things together makes our relationship so strong and sturdy. I wouldn't change a thing.

It's all about the passion and attraction you have to each other. I love my Master, and still have much affection left for my former Master. Their ages don't factor into that at all.

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RE: what is it with girls having masters double their age? - 12/10/2005 2:31:54 AM

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I don't think it always has anything to do with age. I believe IrishMist said it correctly: ATTITUDE...along with much more. Thorns is 33 and i am 46....it never crossed my mind tha it would be a problem.

It obvioudly boils down to preferance too.

Happy Saturday y'all!!

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RE: what is it with girls having masters double their age? - 12/10/2005 6:12:22 AM

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what is it with girls having masters double their age? it really sucks for young doms like me trying to find a sub/slave when all of them want a dom who is practically old enough to be their father or grandfather. can someone answer me that

Well a large part of it was that when I was single there were rarely dominants in my age range (I'm currently 28) who were mature, actually had life AND bdsm experience, and had a solid head on their shoulders. So I ended up with a dominant that is about 20 years older than me. There are some pros to it, which many people have mentioned in their posts. But frankly there are con's. I know he'll die way before me, and if we get to that point in time I'll have to take care of him and possibly send him to a home or some sort of thing (if he had some sort of debilitating disease). And you end up being at different points in your life on issues like children (though frankly I have zero desire for them so that works out well for us).

But anyways, its not that women in your age group don't want someone in their own age range, its that they can't find the maturity along with experience. Not to mention there are plenty of young doms that only want older women.

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RE: what is it with girls having masters double their age? - 12/10/2005 6:17:42 AM

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A lot of what we find attractive is what we've experienced (successfully) in the past. We tend to place those values on people globally. I find older men attractive, but for the silliest of reasons. I tend to think: secure, mature, stable, knowledgeable about life, a good guide. I understand that these values have little to do with age, more with life experiences. I had a good friend who was many years older, and he was instilled with those values and I seek such.

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RE: what is it with girls having masters double their age? - 12/10/2005 6:44:16 AM

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I never tried them....never had a need lmao

Most people don't need sybians and dildos and floggers either, but boy are they fun.

I think of drugs like these as just another type of sex toy.

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RE: what is it with girls having masters double their age? - 12/10/2005 7:05:05 AM

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I had a friend who used viagra on evening.
It drove his wife nuts. He literally chased her around the house with his hardon.
He said it was awesome.

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RE: what is it with girls having masters double their age? - 12/10/2005 7:11:32 AM

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I had a friend who used viagra on evening.
It drove his wife nuts. He literally chased her around the house with his hardon.
He said it was awesome.

smiles-- but what did she say?

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RE: what is it with girls having masters double their age? - 12/10/2005 7:35:03 AM

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I would think she was too breathless to speak.

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RE: what is it with girls having masters double their age? - 12/10/2005 7:51:41 AM

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Love that feeling.

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RE: what is it with girls having masters double their age? - 12/10/2005 8:55:37 AM

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what is it with girls having masters double their age?

Well, not all of us like having a Master quite that "Old"..especially since i'm not anna nicole smith..lol...

Seriously, however, a man's mind set, his intelligence, his sense of self, are usually much more important than age. A general guideline for myself is 10 years either way -- i like being able to talk about some things without having to explain who was who way back..lol. It's all a matter of preference really.

i do agree with the beer belly reference..it's sounds bitter and arrogant..but then that's just me...

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RE: what is it with girls having masters double their age? - 12/10/2005 9:23:49 AM

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I agree with what lovingmaster45 said to you

I'll take it one step further though, the point remains that generally many make an assumption that youth holds lack of experience and honestly it does. Where as I may personally be acting upon desires I've had all my cognitive life, and over 10 years experience fully immersed into the life I in no way would claim to know more than those who have spent 20, 30, 40 years into their own lifes as well as into the practices and techniques of this one.

In the same vein though, there are many in the life who assume that because of their age even despite their lack of experience they should gain precedence. However with this I disagree.

Each should be judged in accordance with what they have done and what they have to offer, regardless of age.

But this is the real world, and should does not exist within it. So what this means to you is that you need to work extra hard in proving yourself and in being determined and vigilant in your own training as well as your image and mental state.

Honestly, coming onto a message board whining that you can't find someone or berating people without reason in a blanketed statement does not even show maturity, let alone Dominance.

If you have not yet been properly mentored, I would seriously look into that, it worked very well for me and I think you would be hard pressed to find someone who had a true mentoring experience that would say otherwise.

The simple fact is that many of these submissives who are choosing to perhaps sway more towards the more experienced and refined, is not a classification of age though but of understanding. There is a presence and a dignity that as of yet from your profile and from your posting I do not see you have obtained. Being Dominant isn't just exerting your will into others but having the will to exert in the first place and if you have not yet gained control of yourself how could you ever hope to gain a place in control of another.

I also second that you should look into a local TNG chapter, the local one I run here in Orlando is specifically geared towards helping people just like you and I am certain most are run under the same premise.

Life is not just for immediate and easy pleasures, but hard earned ones as well.

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RE: what is it with girls having masters double their age? - 12/10/2005 10:36:18 AM

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Yep, I'm the programming chair for the Phoenix TNG chapter, and we very much support the newbies and finding your feet in the D/s lifestyle.

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