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RE: feminization - 2/1/2009 7:53:12 AM   
Nikitaa


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I like the way you think, Nikitaa. You seem to have a very good handle on a lot of issues. And you're making me think about how often I can make the trip between Boston and NY.


Depends on issue. I have much experience with some kinks. These are the kinks my current submissive and my last boyfriend enjoy. I have read about other kinks and I want to try them but I have little experience. I do have kinky girlfriend and we try some different kinks and toys (real toys for kink, not man toys). I do not have a wide range of kink experience. I am very good with those kinks I use.

My favorite is grabbing a man's hair and punching and beating him and knocking him down and walking on him. Then I tie him and.............stuff.

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RE: feminization - 2/1/2009 8:20:11 AM   
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What if the sub is split ... in the sense that while he secretly desires the silkiness of womens clothes he is also extremely humiliated by this desire and he is looking for punishment to try and balance his desires? Or to repent for previous transgressions(panty raids :)?  Maybe some dommes don't like this aspect because they themselfs don't enjoy wearing the clothing that their subs secretly desire ...  but instead prefer leather and latex so they use that as a tool as opposed to silk?

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RE: feminization - 2/1/2009 9:00:53 AM   
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i gues theni will never type any thign here again ?

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RE: feminization - 2/1/2009 10:46:38 AM   
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Isn't this issue just a bit like abortion?

You are either for or against it, and no amount of conversation or argument will change your mind about it.



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RE: feminization - 2/1/2009 11:23:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: energeticservant

Isn't this issue just a bit like abortion?

You are either for or against it, and no amount of conversation or argument will change your mind about it.





Abortion bad example. I changed mind on abortion.

Even fetishes can change. People grow and mature and feelings change. People have experiences which change their emotional responses. Some of my fetishes I did not dream of when I was younger. I have liked walking on men since I beat up that boy when I was 15 but past then I would not have have fetish with him wearing panties and bra. This fetish become new turn-on for me after seeing how men lose power when dressed in my bra and panties.



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RE: feminization - 2/1/2009 12:37:03 PM   
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This fetish become new turn-on for me after seeing how men lose power when dressed in my bra and panties.


This is what I was talking about when I said that I like the way you think. I'm not focused on any particular fetish, but I'm impressed by your focus on "disempowering" men, regardless of the specific fetish involved.

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RE: feminization - 2/1/2009 2:34:39 PM   
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This fetish become new turn-on for me after seeing how men lose power when dressed in my bra and panties.


This is what I was talking about when I said that I like the way you think. I'm not focused on any particular fetish, but I'm impressed by your focus on "disempowering" men, regardless of the specific fetish involved.



Power control Is my kink.

Before kink I used power all women have. If boyfriend annoy me no sex for him. After arriving in America I discover class of men who I could control without having sex. I have never engaged in sexual intercourse with my current submissive but I have him in complete control. I do with him as I please. He wants sex but I refuse and I tell him never.

I like the power I have to bring submissive men pleasure without using sex. Instead I allow them their favorite kink play with me.
Is true I much more like power to make men do as I say and punish when they do wrong.

The bra and pantie and woman's clothes embarrassment started with ex-boyfriend. One day while we play kink I talk him into wearing my blue bra and panties just for curiosity. Then I slap him and pull his hair (I had reason). He tried to act tough and say stop. I say "you look foolish trying toughness when you are dressed in blue bra and panties." I laughed too much. He was much embarrassed. That is point in past I decided best way to remove power is force men to dress in clothes or position (sitting in bathtub sucking thumb) where they can not pretend they have control of situation.

Bondage works for removing power but is too easy. I prefer a man having freedom to escape but he can not.

Now look ^^^^. I write too much about not much. I am too wordy. I need to learn conciseness.

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RE: feminization - 2/1/2009 2:37:46 PM   
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Oh, you can never write too much for me. Your kink seems to be my main kink, so I love what you write.

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RE: feminization - 2/1/2009 5:16:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Nikitaa


quote:

ORIGINAL: hardbodysub

quote:

This fetish become new turn-on for me after seeing how men lose power when dressed in my bra and panties.


This is what I was talking about when I said that I like the way you think. I'm not focused on any particular fetish, but I'm impressed by your focus on "disempowering" men, regardless of the specific fetish involved.



Power control Is my kink.

Before kink I used power all women have. If boyfriend annoy me no sex for him. After arriving in America I discover class of men who I could control without having sex. I have never engaged in sexual intercourse with my current submissive but I have him in complete control. I do with him as I please. He wants sex but I refuse and I tell him never.

I like the power I have to bring submissive men pleasure without using sex. Instead I allow them their favorite kink play with me.
Is true I much more like power to make men do as I say and punish when they do wrong.


The bra and pantie and woman's clothes embarrassment started with ex-boyfriend. One day while we play kink I talk him into wearing my blue bra and panties just for curiosity. Then I slap him and pull his hair (I had reason). He tried to act tough and say stop. I say "you look foolish trying toughness when you are dressed in blue bra and panties." I laughed too much. He was much embarrassed. That is point in past I decided best way to remove power is force men to dress in clothes or position (sitting in bathtub sucking thumb) where they can not pretend they have control of situation.

Bondage works for removing power but is too easy. I prefer a man having freedom to escape but he can not.

Now look ^^^^. I write too much about not much. I am too wordy. I need to learn conciseness.


It was an eye opening experience realizing that about myself.  For me, the orgasm comes from submission.  Amazing how it can be more powerful than sex, for both the Domme and sub.

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RE: feminization - 2/1/2009 10:09:41 PM   
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Just a note of caution here.   A man dressed en'femme in public can engender mild to extreme reactions from those around - especially male persons.  Realize that if you are responsible for a submissive male being in a public place dressed...you are also at least partially responsible for his safety where ever you choose to take him.  A car wash in New York late at night is not anywhere I would want to be dressed female.


How's this one...

One Saturday nite out in Manhattan i came out of the bars at 3 a.m. wearing a knee length A-line black dress and 3" heels.  All by myself.  To find my car missking.  I had a sports car at the time, and figured it was stolen.

i spotted a NYC patrol car and approached the officers, who pointed out the tow truck working the street.  Funny thing was the street was lined with cars.  Everyone was being towed - and as soon as they would tow one, someone would park in that spot.

The officers gave me the number of the pound on the West Side.  i needed $150 cash or a credit card.  i had neither.  Just $40 in my pocket.  And i was 90 minutes from home.  Couldn't call my boyfriend in Trenton to come rescue me.  That wouldn't be fair.

So i went back to the Silver Swan in NYC where i'd been hanging out.  When i sang my song of woe to the bartender, an Irishman named Nick, he whipped out his wallet and threw $50's on the bar.  "Go get your car," he said.  "Just pay me back when you can."

I'd known Nick for a while, but still was stunned by his absolute generosity.  Talk about a loveable Irishman.  i gave him a hug, kiss, and took his address so i could mail him a thank you card with the money - which i did.  His act of kindness is something i've never forgotten.

I was about to call a cab, when an older gentleman in the bar, who happens to work as a cameraman for one of the big sports networks - offered to drive me to the pound.  Where he waited with me in line - till i got my car (at which time it was 4 a.m.).

Did all that in a black dress and heels.  With no muss, no fuss.  No humiliation.  It's a night i'll never forget, because it could have been a disaster, especially for someone like me.  But i found the opposite to be true.  Everyone was wonderful.  The only pain in the a$$ was paying the $150  parking ticket.

I mention this story, only to say that not all crossdressers or transgendered people's lives are tales of humiliation and woe.  Most live a rather ordinary existence.  Some even have a blast.

There are not many Females out there that appreciate someone like me.  We're an acquired taste.  You could never humiliate me by putting me into panties or a bra.  When my Domme has bought me women's things its because she enjoys seeing me wear it.  i suppose it takes a unique woman to get turned on by a feminine male, but these rare gems do exist and i thank the stars for them.

< Message edited by steffie -- 2/1/2009 10:12:21 PM >


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RE: feminization - 2/2/2009 8:35:13 PM   
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I find it to be a deal breaker, a total turn off, and I dunno...  Because I am a trans woman, I get so many guys who expect me to be OK with it.  Cross dressing and transsexualism are two completely different things. I understand it but do not like it.


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RE: feminization - 2/3/2009 9:17:41 AM   
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Thank you for that wonderful recount Steffie.  Inspiring to know that people out there can be civil and even helpful to someone in trouble...even when it is a guy in a dress.  

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RE: feminization - 2/3/2009 9:47:57 AM   
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I have absolutely no interest in seeing men in dresses either. I very much need a man to be a man and treat me like a quintessential lady, But I will cross dress men, put them in wigs and dresses  if they contribute well.  I do enjoy  doing hair and make up but seeing a man with a dick and balls in a  dress, does nothing for me.

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RE: feminization - 2/3/2009 9:51:43 AM   
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I don't enjoy it at all, nor do I have any desire for it.  If I want a women, I prefer a woman.  When I want a man, I want him to be a man in every way, including the clothing he wears.  The last thing I would want to do is make him into anything resembling a woman.  

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RE: feminization - 2/3/2009 12:00:19 PM   
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Thank you for that wonderful recount Steffie.  Inspiring to know that people out there can be civil and even helpful to someone in trouble...even when it is a guy in a dress.  


Otter, I have this theory, that many men (perhaps not all) won't hit or beat on a young, very feminine, and beautiful transsexual (can't say that for your regular cross dresser with shoulders and biceps like a farmer). I can't say that for certain but it's a theory of mine. If a person looks like a very pretty girl, especially one very feminine in behavior and expressions, I wonder how many guys could beat her up? I'm sure there are those that could. Strikes me odd though. On the other hand, a woman that looks like a male linebacker, would seem more reasonable to hit (if hitting had to happen that is).

MidnightKat might find this real life story of a former Muay Thai boxing champ interesting, given her signature quote (which I like). I've seen the movie at it's pretty good. http://www.beautifulboxer-themovie.com/

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RE: feminization - 2/3/2009 5:49:15 PM   
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Interesting that you find the feminized male something to  beat......

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RE: feminization - 2/3/2009 8:15:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Nikitaa


I do not dress men this way because I want to make them cute (or ugly) woman. I do because I can control men easier when they feel powerless and embarrassed. If the man likes wearing these clothes too much then I push his limits by taking him to car wash late in night and he can wash my car while he dressed as cheerleader. <-------I have not done this but I will soon to someone. :-)


This girl loves the humiliation of putting her guys in her underwear. She lives for it. I've seen her eyes light up when she speaks of it.


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RE: feminization - 2/3/2009 8:39:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KinkyJody


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ORIGINAL: Nikitaa


I do not dress men this way because I want to make them cute (or ugly) woman. I do because I can control men easier when they feel powerless and embarrassed. If the man likes wearing these clothes too much then I push his limits by taking him to car wash late in night and he can wash my car while he dressed as cheerleader. <-------I have not done this but I will soon to someone. :-)


This girl loves the humiliation of putting her guys in her underwear. She lives for it. I've seen her eyes light up when she speaks of it.




As if you do not like same thing. I know what you like and I maybe tell them all. :-)

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RE: feminization - 2/4/2009 5:35:25 PM   
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... I have this theory, that many men (perhaps not all) won't hit or beat on a young, very feminine, and beautiful transsexual (can't say that for your regular cross dresser with shoulders and biceps like a farmer). I can't say that for certain but it's a theory of mine. If a person looks like a very pretty girl, especially one very feminine in behavior and expressions, I wonder how many guys could beat her up? I'm sure there are those that could. Strikes me odd though. On the other hand, a woman that looks like a male linebacker, would seem more reasonable to hit (if hitting had to happen that is).


Ever seen The Crying Game?

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RE: feminization - 2/5/2009 11:02:25 AM   
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Yeah, I saw that movie. Good movie too. The guy that played the post-op transsexual is supposedly - or one would assume so from public photos - an effeminate homosexual in real life.

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