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Oral Servitude - 10/23/2008 11:25:19 PM   
khem


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Oral servitude ... I start laughing every time I hear this.  I get emails from men saying they are into this.  When did a very common vanilla sex act become a matter of slave training?  Are you kidding me? 

This just reeeeeks of "I really want to get laid and get into your pink parts, but I'm gonna dress it up as some sort of slave thing"

Last I checked, very few men had to be "forced" to go down on a woman.  Since when did this become a mark of submission?

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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/23/2008 11:29:34 PM   
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I think it's a "men are from mars" thing.  To a great many of them, that is the highest service they can provide, when it would simply be "read my profile very carefully, and say hello, because I am just a woman" venutian thing.   Anyway, if you're not new to online, this can't be the first such offer you've gotten.   M

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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/23/2008 11:36:39 PM   
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I just hate the terms "oral servitude" and "pussy worship" because it comes off like something they wouldn't normally do, ya know?

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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/23/2008 11:46:51 PM   
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Shhhhh....Dern, I thought this was a secret among friends in how to please a woman.....I hope this thread doesn't let the pus.. I mean the cat out of the bag!

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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/23/2008 11:48:34 PM   
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"If I call what I really want to do service, then a domme (any domme) will actually let me do it."

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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/24/2008 12:00:14 AM   
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Actually, there are a lot of men who don't "go down".  Yeah, it's become more popular in the past decade or so, but it's still not what I would call ubiquitous.  There's a lot of material on this very board about forced deep-throating, femsubs choking on cock, blah blah blah.  There is nothing more or less submissive about forced pussy eating.  However, many subs who list "oral servitude" often include piss drinking and analingus in that.  As with many things, it is not the simple act itself that defines submission - it is how the parties engage in it that counts.  For those men that enjoy being Queened, it is very much a taboo act that makes them feel incredibly submissive.  That some men who aren't submissive also enjoy eating pussy is simply more proof that its all in how you spin it.

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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/24/2008 3:32:07 AM   
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Yeah!  What She said!

Hello All,

Putting your mouth on the genitals of another person is an act of submission to that person.  Why do you think that there is such a lively debate about straight men sucking... [BLEHCK].  Do vanilla men really enjoy giving head?  Or, are they simply "heating the skillet?"  I won't pretend to speak for all men; but, I'll bet most of us see oral sex as something to get through for the "main event."

As for myself...  No... That something to save for in front of the fire place... with a good wine...  Or, perhaps for a session in your dungeon.

As Racquelle says,  "It is how the parties engage in it that counts."  On the other hand, spinning just makes me dizzy.

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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/24/2008 3:50:05 AM   
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No man ever got gagged by licking a clit.  I can see the correlation... but there's a big difference between an action that is basically 'kissing the other lips' and having an O-Ring chipping your teeth and a cock crammed down your throat.  Yes, I know, some people like that also.  I'm talking about the potential pain and damage aspect is not equal between male & female 'oral servitude.'  Yes, an unwashed 'pink shrine' can get pretty funky.  So can an unwashed 'rooster'.  And I've had male partners who licked until their tongue was sore and their jaws ached.  Well to bad.  Get over it.

Oral sex is a REWARD... not a service.


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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/24/2008 4:23:11 AM   
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Yeah!  What She said too!

Dear Ms Starlett,

I never thought of it that way; but, you're right!  It is a reward.

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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/24/2008 4:35:05 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: khem

Oral servitude ... I start laughing every time I hear this.  I get emails from men saying they are into this.  When did a very common vanilla sex act become a matter of slave training?  Are you kidding me? 

This just reeeeeks of "I really want to get laid and get into your pink parts, but I'm gonna dress it up as some sort of slave thing"

Last I checked, very few men had to be "forced" to go down on a woman.  Since when did this become a mark of submission?

/rant



I'm not kidding you -- I really like giving a woman the full oral servitude she deserves. I'm not sure why you think doing that is not submissive -- it's the woman that tells me to eat her pussy, not the other way. She also dictates where we will be, posisitions, and who will do what by how much.

In no case here does the woman submit. She is in control at all time.

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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/24/2008 4:40:16 AM   
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Actually, I was just talking to my Westie on the IM's about this thread.  I was teasing him that I guess Oral is a servitude in some cases.  Such as during our last 'session'.  I did get all hot and bothered - and ah!  That favorite sub fantasy when Dommes become so over come with lustful desires that they force their boy's head to their 'Temple of Delight'...  but don't let him have his release.

Reward for a job well done?  Or just added torture to be so close and yet denied access?


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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/24/2008 4:43:11 AM   
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I'll bet most of us see oral sex as something to get through for the "main event."
 
Nooooo - it really can be the main event for some of us!  As Racquelle points out, the spin on it (in the man's mind, mainly) is what counts here.  It can be about 'warming her up' for the main event that's enjoyable to one degree or another; or it can be "at last being allowed to serve at the altar" [insert own purple prose].  Though the spin on it in a man's mind might be utterly irrelevant to the woman receiving it, of course.



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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/24/2008 4:46:53 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: khem

Oral servitude ... I start laughing every time I hear this.  I get emails from men saying they are into this.  When did a very common vanilla sex act become a matter of slave training?  Are you kidding me? 



greetings to all,

OP, I see this as an act of goddess worship, not as something to do with slave training. 

By giving the woman oral sex, the man is worshipping the femininity of the woman, women in general, and all that is feminine.

Just my 2 cents worth, have a wonderful day!

well wishes,

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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/24/2008 4:58:05 AM   
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Since men over beer and farts decided this was a new way to get their way.

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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/24/2008 5:02:13 AM   
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By giving the woman oral sex, the man is worshipping the femininity of the woman, women in general, and all that is feminine.
 
Yes.



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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/24/2008 5:19:55 AM   
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Ditto.

Very nicely stated, Xian.  Wish more men thought of it that way.


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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/24/2008 5:32:38 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: XaviersXian

quote:

ORIGINAL: khem

Oral servitude ... I start laughing every time I hear this.  I get emails from men saying they are into this.  When did a very common vanilla sex act become a matter of slave training?  Are you kidding me? 



greetings to all,

OP, I see this as an act of goddess worship, not as something to do with slave training. 

By giving the woman oral sex, the man is worshipping the femininity of the woman, women in general, and all that is feminine.

Just my 2 cents worth, have a wonderful day!

well wishes,


That is a nice spin on it.

Oral service.... I honestly think that oral sex is not inherently submissive.  Oral can be dominant/aggressive or submissive depending on the circumstances and technique.
A dominant man / woman can use it in tease and denial play while the submissive might be told that he or she cannot stop until the dominant reaches orgasm...
it is all in the way the game is played.


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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/24/2008 5:50:29 AM   
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quote:

When did a very common vanilla sex act become a matter of slave training? Are you kidding me?


If it seems like a common vanilla sex act he must be doing something wrong . . .


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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/24/2008 6:38:41 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MsStarlett
Oral sex is a REWARD... not a service.



When you put it that way, it sounds as though the receiver is indifferent to it. Sad.

I think the whole "service" thing is just a result of the difference between male and female views on sex. For an M/f couple, it *can* be a service- Master is horny, sub brings him with her mouth, she receives no direct sexual stimulation or relief herself. Service. Malesubs just like to fantasize that it works the other way 'round as well.


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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/24/2008 6:48:02 AM   
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Pussy worship?  I worship my cat daily.  Nothing wrong with that.

Seriously, I don't care what guys call it, so long as I get it.

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