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ORIGINAL: Joenextdoor

You have only said I am factually incorrect, but as of yet not offered anything in the way of "correct" facts.  You keep saying I want to argue about something you have not said, but I asked a simple question.  If you can't answer it, then fine, maybe someone else would like a try.  You say things I post are idiotic or childish, but offer nothing to refute.  I come to this thread with the proper intentions, and not to just throw rocks at the folks here, then I get that. 

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ORIGINAL: HunterS

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okay, you just proved you're a dick and nothing more

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okay, you just proved you're a dick and nothing more

Name calling is against the TOS.
Your family being here since the 1600's is germain for what reason?
Having a family member fight for the Confederacy adds relevance to your point in what manner?
The things you posted are true on the whole but not the whole truth.  If you choose to take part of a truth and quote it out of context of the whole truth you must be prepared for someone who is aware of the whole truth to point it out to you.
If you are happy with your rationalizations and jingoistic flag waving please continue...but be aware that the foolishness of that behavior will be pointed out to you over and over.  Educate yourself about the things you rant about.  Take each of the things you have posted and just take a moment to google them and dig a bit deeper then perhaps your post will not embarrass you.
 
H.

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ORIGINAL: HunterS

The things you posted are true on the whole but not the whole truth.  If you choose to take part of a truth and quote it out of context of the whole truth you must be prepared for someone who is aware of the whole truth to point it out to you.

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Was it too much caffeine today or are you normally this testy? 
I am always this sweet and mild.


Either way, I think you're better off staying away from the guns tonight.
I have not killed anyone in over 40 years and I do not plan on breaking my streak.


Perhaps you should read and try and understand what I was trying to say before you fly off the handle.
I did and I did and I did not fly off the handle.



There is not a complete ban on guns in either country although they are severely restricted.
My statement,had you chosen to read it said "virtual" ban...I have lived in Japan and know what the gun laws are there.  The word sever is not even in the same zip code with what it takes to have a gun there. 


And yes they still have gun crime, but a also at a severely limited rate as opposed to the U.S., Switzerland, or even Israel.

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ORIGINAL: HunterS

The things you posted are true on the whole but not the whole truth.  If you choose to take part of a truth and quote it out of context of the whole truth you must be prepared for someone who is aware of the whole truth to point it out to you.

I bet you can't say that ten times really quick.

By the way, do you know how much wood a woodchuck would chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood? 

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ORIGINAL: Joenextdoor

So please tell me why anyone expects that you should comprimise on a right? If it were a priviledge, I can see it, but it is a right, and as such, I cannot comprimise.  Secondly, the gun did not put Jim Brady in that chair.  A sick man did.   The gun has no brain and cannot act without the input of a human being.  I am hit by a drunk driver, I do not blame the car, the bar, or the alcohol company.  I blame the guy behind the wheel soley.
I refer to them as the Brady Bunch because their group is not just Jim and Sarah, but quite a few people who share an agenda to disarm the country. 
People here can argue until you are blue in the face about those "evil" guns, but guns are here to stay, and you will never take them away.  It is a right in our Constitution and no matter how badly you hate them, you will just have to live with it.  I made a valid point about why groups on both sides do what they do, and I stand by that. 

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Would you care to hazard a guess as to why their crime rate is so low compared to the U.S.?

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: HunterS

Would you care to hazard a guess as to why their crime rate is so low compared to the U.S.?

I'm not talking about crime rates.  I'm talking about deaths by firearm and including homicides, suicides, and accidental deaths.

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ORIGINAL: Joenextdoor

I read back over the last few pages here, and you haven't answered me or Outlaw85.  All you can do is say someone is factually incorrect, but never offer anything to refute.  It really doesn't matter though, because you will never change my mind about anything, and I am sure I won't be changing yours.

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ORIGINAL: Joenextdoor

I thought that was debunked about 10 pages ago, and if they are, and Republicans did, who cares? 

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: HunterS

Would you care to hazard a guess as to why their crime rate is so low compared to the U.S.?

I'm not talking about crime rates.  I'm talking about deaths by firearm and including homicides, suicides, and accidental deaths.

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...I bet more people die by car accident every year, but you don't see them rushing to ban cars.  it's just the stigma of, it was a gun.    

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ORIGINAL: Joenextdoor

Now I finally get my answer....NONE.  Now how hard was that?
Since it was the third time I answered your question you tell me how hard it was for you to finally read it.



People with armed robbery convictions don't go into gun stores to buy guns.
If it is not against the law for them to do so what is stopping them?
 
Thats laughable, unless of course they are just high at the time.
Funny you should bring that up...is that why I had to post my answer three times before you finally understood it?


Now if you can just "enlighten" Outlaw85 and I on our history...lol
I previously mentioned that I charge for teaching school...just keystroke it over to google and do your own research...were you not paying attention again?

Thinking any one person can make a whole group look stupid is casting generalizations isn't it Hunter?
No it was just an observation on your asinine post.

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ORIGINAL: Joenextdoor

So please tell me why anyone expects that you should comprimise on a right? If it were a priviledge, I can see it, but it is a right, and as such, I cannot comprimise.  Secondly, the gun did not put Jim Brady in that chair.  A sick man did.   The gun has no brain and cannot act without the input of a human being.  I am hit by a drunk driver, I do not blame the car, the bar, or the alcohol company.  I blame the guy behind the wheel soley.
I refer to them as the Brady Bunch because their group is not just Jim and Sarah, but quite a few people who share an agenda to disarm the country. 
People here can argue until you are blue in the face about those "evil" guns, but guns are here to stay, and you will never take them away.  It is a right in our Constitution and no matter how badly you hate them, you will just have to live with it.  I made a valid point about why groups on both sides do what they do, and I stand by that. 

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if the shoe fits, then let them ban me for it.  I call a spade a spade
I usually call it a fucking shovel. 

I'm well aware that there was a ton more involved in the revolution and the parliment acts and the civil war etc, it'd be a forum unto it's own if we were to go into every detail,
No...you just put in the details that you thought would support your position and no one would notice the bullshit factor.

you're just being a prick about it, nothing more, and for no reason either.
Name calling is the refuge of the illiterate.


Having my family fight for the south, and it being part of my family heritage, we take the history of the events in that time of american history extra seriously.
Do you seriously think you are the only one with family in that war...I had family on both sides.


Especially since my family lost everything in that damn war, it's only been 4 or 5 generations, and it's still a bit of a sensitve topic, and something i've been educated on since I was in 5th grade. It's not just a novelty to me, it's not just an interesting fact in a history book, I exist because of that war, and the way my family is, is the result of that war.    My family went from being essentially aristocracy from the year 1066 to 1865 to paupers using sears catilogues as toilet paper after that,
Payback is a bitch

and it's only in my mom's and my generation that things are starting to recover from that.
800 years of privilege and only 150 years of no priviledge....just goes to show there ain't no god.

 

Kinda an interesting off topic thought to consider, if that's the case 150 years after the civil war here, imagine how events in iraq are going to shape familys there 150 years from now.
In my previous line of work the phrase was "same mud different day"