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RE: Straight Woman Blues - 12/24/2005 6:19:49 PM

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^laughs^. One of life's mysteries is why men would find two women together exciting, but women do not want to see two men together (as a rule).

I must be the odd one out, but I find two men together to be very hot

I have to agree here..I was a DM for 2 scenes that were only men. My Gawd...they were sooooo hot..lol...

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RE: Straight Woman Blues - 12/24/2005 7:13:17 PM

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I know, I know...I am a day late and a dollar short on this thread! Just bear with me...I am not bi either..I tried this for someone, more than once, I am not against it but it's not for me. At my age, I prefer to settle for what makes me happy with one person. I have witnessed several poly relationships and have had family involved. I have never seen any work more than a year, if that long. I am sure there are some that have lasted over time, just none I have witnessed..

Dern this is a long thread and yes, I read every post..I will take a good look next time before I read 9 pages again. Just too much..it all jumbled in my head...lol!

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RE: Straight Woman Blues - 12/24/2005 10:20:40 PM

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Hot fudge and Bombay Sapphire?

Now that would work

/nods

IrishMist

Now ladies that combo is just gross. How about White Russians?

candystripper

Well, to clarify, candy: The Bombay Sapphire is for before and after. The hot fudge is for during. So. They dont really ever have to be combined, per se.

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RE: Straight Woman Blues - 12/24/2005 10:34:04 PM

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Well, to clarify, candy: The Bombay Sapphire is for before and after. The hot fudge is for during. So. They dont really ever have to be combined, per se.

justheather

GRRRR...this little bitty bit of bulls**t really pisses me off. Was i vague about being straight? O the hell with it.

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RE: Straight Woman Blues - 12/24/2005 10:51:46 PM

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Well, to clarify, candy: The Bombay Sapphire is for before and after. The hot fudge is for during. So. They dont really ever have to be combined, per se.

justheather

GRRRR...this little bitty bit of bulls**t really pisses me off. Was i vague about being straight? O the hell with it.

candystripper

This was in response to caitlyn's original post about flavored oil and vodka.
It is not a bitty bit of bull anything.
It's called humor.
There is room for humor on the boards whether you get it or not.
And that post, to which you replied about white russians, was directed at IrishMist.
Take a deep breath, have a white russian and flippin chill.

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RE: Straight Woman Blues - 12/24/2005 11:34:47 PM

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.... Perhaps you are looking for something/someone that's not appropriate to BDSM. In other words, maybe you are searching for your prince in the wrong neighborhood.

...

My advise to you is consider where you are looking for a mate. This is a free website for people interested in alternative relationships with a bend toward BDSM. Perhaps you don't fully understand what that means, because you are clearly antagonistic about almost everything that those of us who are experienced take for granted.

Honey, maybe you are just looking for a vanilla man who's got leadership qualities. There's nothing wrong with that. If I were you, I'd take some time and explore that.

Lily

i cannot imagine what on earth would make another person say "you live differently! you threaten my harmony! you must go!"

i am truely sorry that Xmas Eve finds you in such distress. i hope the rest of your holidays are bettter.

candystripper

Candy this really goes beyond your usual level of both condescension and, well refusal to read what lies on the screen before you.

Where, in the name of all that's holy--in that post full of "maybe" and "perhaps" and "consider" and "If I were you I'd take some time to explore" could any healthy person find: "you live differently! you threaten my harmony! you must go!" ?

It just wasn't there, doll. And nothing vaguely resembling it was there.

I posted at length, indicating clearly and explicitly over and over again that I accept your choices but I don't understand all of them and I asked for help in understanding. You did finally address the question by alluding to some dark secrets. You're entitled to those and to decline my request for help in understanding. But then you climbed back up on your cross with this:

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i am asking You to respect the value i assign to sexual orientation and monogamy; knowing i am not claiming i am better or that anyone should mimic me.

i am asking You to respect me, as a member, even though we disagree. To borrow Lily's terminology, we are pledged to respect all kinks; that includes heterosexual monogamy.

... as if there was anything in my posts that evidenced anything but respect for the value you place on your gender orientation or on monogamy.

I'm trained in rhetoric too. As well I'm trained and practiced in other modes of serious discourse which are not targetted to winning disputes but instead are targetted at approaching truth and mutual understanding. I find the latter very much preferable to the former

You refuse even still to accept the dozens of affirmations offered to you in this thread, several from me alone; affirmations of your personal choices and your right to them. You come off as the founding father of The Society for the Prevention of Something That Was Never Happening In The First Place. i.e. marginalizing of heterosexual women.

Are you being picked on for having two legs as well?

It has become just terribly tiresome, Candy. I respect your lifestyle choices but your communication behavior in this community, including refusal to engage ingenuously with sincere people and your habitual condescension are not worthy of respect.

Maybe you're just shitfaced drunk. That would explain why you typed "Noah" as "Neal". Or did someone tell you that Neal was my name and so you took it upon yourself to share this personal information without my permission? You certainly never saw that name in my profile or posts nor in any private communication from me to you. I won't confirm or deny rumors about my name but I'm glad to highlight behavior that runs directly contrary to the spirit of this community. I'd advise anyone who remains in contact with a person like this to guard carefully what information they share with her, assuming that it will be made public at her whim.

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But Neal, they are deeply personal, not fodder for the boards. If You can give me respect without having to analyse my motives, we're in business.

If you're trying to out people while drunk, that's just deeply irresponsible. If you're outing people while sober then your behavior is reprehensible for other reasons.

as for:

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This is where i will find my One. i did not make the decision lightly nor without a fully informed information store.

Where does a person get a "fully informed information store" (whatever that is) about what will happen in the future? You don't know who he is but you know you will find him here? I'm wondering how a statement like this can be anything short of delusional but I don't care any more. I'm convinced that you don't value community--certainly not this one. The evidence is your refusal to accept affirmations offerred generously from numerous members, compounded by your propensity to put words in people's mouths which are quite contrary to the message the person was trying to share. Please se the top of this post for one of a persistent pattern of examples.

I'm also convinced that you don't value truth. Your willingness to speak disingenuously for others counts here too, as does your unwillingness to face the truth that no one, absolutely no one has attacked your gender identification. Whatever comfort you take in your fanciful notion of being one of an imaginary class of oppressed women trumps your ability or willingness to see what confronts you plainly.

I just don't know how to understand or communicate with someone in a stance that prefers illusion to truth and rejects earnest communication from anyone who tries to help you see a thing more clearly.

I've never used the block feature here before but I think I can figure it out. I'm not a person who can see the future but I'm guessing that you will be pleased to find yourself in that quite exclusive position.

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RE: Straight Woman Blues - 12/25/2005 12:11:47 AM

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Sometimes i see a profile and it's very appealing; then i get to the part where He discusses what He wants; and so often He wants a bisexual or "bicurious" woman; and i feel sad.

often I see a profile and it's very appealing, then I get to the part where she discusses what she wants. So often she wants something other than what I am. I feel so sad.

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Are straight women just not exciting? Is monogamy just never enough? i have a clear vision of a life or peace and joy with my One; but apparently few men are interested in that vision.

are people not just like me just not exciting? Is polygamy just not enough? I have a clear vision but so few women are interested in that version! (actually I am not a prolific-polygamist but for the sake of the thread)

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Don't misunderstand; i get mail; but often when i actually IM with Him -- He asks "would you?' and the answer is "no f**king way"; and we come to an end. *Sigh*.

Am i suffering alone?

Join the club. the difference between a woman and a male in this lifestyle (online, or not, from my experience) is that women have a multitude of choices whereas dominant men (in general) do not. I can't say I feel real sorry for ya' ;-) Submissive men as well are pooched - the number of dominant women to sub men is 1:360 (from what I've read). Can you guess why pro dommes are far more prevalent than pro doms? Hmm never met a pro dom (although I'd like to).

It's like a risk free relationship of _any_ kind. Doesn't exist. Hey feel free to prove me wrong and send me the formula, I can make billions if you do.

Stick with it.

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RE: Straight Woman Blues - 12/25/2005 12:28:46 AM

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It has become just terribly tiresome, Candy. I respect your lifestyle choices but your communication behavior in this community, including refusal to engage ingenuously with sincere people and your habitual condescension are not worthy of respect.

You refuse even still to accept the dozens of affirmations offered to you in this thread, several from me alone; affirmations of your personal choices and your right to them. You come off as the founding father of The Society for the Prevention of Something That Was Never Happening In The First Place. i.e. marginalizing of heterosexual women.

Maybe you're just shitfaced drunk. That would explain why you typed "Noah" as "Neal". Or did someone tell you that Neal was my name and so you took it upon yourself to share this personal information without my permission? You certainly never saw that name in my profile or posts nor in any private communication from me to you. I won't confirm or deny rumors about my name but I'm glad to highlight behavior that runs directly contrary to the spirit of this community. I'd advise anyone who remains in contact with a person like this to guard carefully what information they share with her, assuming that it will be made public at her whim.

I just don't know how to understand or communicate with someone in a stance that prefers illusion to truth and rejects earnest communication from anyone who tries to help you see a thing more clearly.

I've never used the block feature here before but I think I can figure it out. I'm not a person who can see the future but I'm guessing that you will be pleased to find yourself in that quite exclusive position.

Noah

i was speaking to someone named "Neal" in IM and was not careful enough when i responded to Your post. My apologies. Rest assured i honor the confidences shared with me.

i do find Your posts a bit long and covering many topics; it isn't easy for me to fully respond to You. The statements "you live differntly! you threaten my harmony! you must go!" were not aimed at you...they were responses to brightspot and MercnBeth, etc. Sorry about the confusion -- evidentially You thought they were aimed at You.

i will miss You if You block me, for despite everything, Your posts are fun for me to try and parse out. However, if You feel i have disrespected You and You block, life will go on. Apologies have been tendered overa nd over to the "community" but so far, few have accepted them. What You speak of confuses me; the "afformation" of my choice that You perceive; assigning me not only dissembling but outright lying in this thread; etc. i really don't know where to begin to answer You.

Perhaps that was Your real point; i have no idea. i have tried hard to communicate with others on the subject of the Op, but it seems only other straight, monogamous women admit to understanding me. You say You have acknowledged my position in prior posts, but i'm sorry, i just do not see it.

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RE: Straight Woman Blues - 12/25/2005 12:45:41 AM

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Join the club. the difference between a woman and a male in this lifestyle (online, or not, from my experience) is that women have a multitude of choices whereas dominant men (in general) do not. I can't say I feel real sorry for ya' ;-) Submissive men as well are pooched - the number of dominant women to sub men is 1:360 (from what I've read). Can you guess why pro dommes are far more prevalent than pro doms? Hmm never met a pro dom (although I'd like to).

Wolfie648

i never meant to denigrate anyone else's searching pains. i only spoke about a phenom that had been occuring frequently lately and how i felt about it. i apologise if the Op offended You in any way.

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RE: Straight Woman Blues - 12/25/2005 6:17:24 AM

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Hmm never met a pro dom (although I'd like to).

Like most people in professions, they vary, but the good ones are delightful people. I've worked with them and been friends with them and I've learned a lot from them.

Most BDSM groups of reasonable size have a few prodommes as members but often they keep their professional lives and social lives separate, often to prevent the accusation that they are trolling for clients. However, if you ask around a few may well show up.

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RE: Straight Woman Blues - 12/25/2005 6:26:49 AM

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woooshhhhhhhhh.............shakes head in amazement------

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ORIGINAL: candystripper

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Well, to clarify, candy: The Bombay Sapphire is for before and after. The hot fudge is for during. So. They dont really ever have to be combined, per se.

justheather

GRRRR...this little bitty bit of bulls**t really pisses me off. Was i vague about being straight? O the hell with it.

candystripper

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RE: Straight Woman Blues - 12/25/2005 6:32:36 AM

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i'm a straight monogamous woman ( of course in your book according to your own words yesterday, I'm not,lol)
and i DONT UNDERSTAND you at all,
nor do i want to,
and i dont think my opinion need be placed on here....
after all i have seen and read this past 24 hrs.
i see why br....spot has the ATTITUDE she does...

YOU CAN FOOL SOME OF THE PEOPLE SOME OF THE TIME.........
(sorry for caps)

but it all comes out in the wash in the end

i'm sorry ...*shrugs* and walks away in ____________(fillin the blank) grabs boots n shovel

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ORIGINAL: candystripper

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It has become just terribly tiresome, Candy. I respect your lifestyle choices but your communication behavior in this community, including refusal to engage ingenuously with sincere people and your habitual condescension are not worthy of respect.

You refuse even still to accept the dozens of affirmations offered to you in this thread, several from me alone; affirmations of your personal choices and your right to them. You come off as the founding father of The Society for the Prevention of Something That Was Never Happening In The First Place. i.e. marginalizing of heterosexual women.

Maybe you're just shitfaced drunk. That would explain why you typed "Noah" as "Neal". Or did someone tell you that Neal was my name and so you took it upon yourself to share this personal information without my permission? You certainly never saw that name in my profile or posts nor in any private communication from me to you. I won't confirm or deny rumors about my name but I'm glad to highlight behavior that runs directly contrary to the spirit of this community. I'd advise anyone who remains in contact with a person like this to guard carefully what information they share with her, assuming that it will be made public at her whim.

I just don't know how to understand or communicate with someone in a stance that prefers illusion to truth and rejects earnest communication from anyone who tries to help you see a thing more clearly.

I've never used the block feature here before but I think I can figure it out. I'm not a person who can see the future but I'm guessing that you will be pleased to find yourself in that quite exclusive position.

Noah

i was speaking to someone named "Neal" in IM and was not careful enough when i responded to Your post. My apologies. Rest assured i honor the confidences shared with me.

i do find Your posts a bit long and covering many topics; it isn't easy for me to fully respond to You. The statements "you live differntly! you threaten my harmony! you must go!" were not aimed at you...they were responses to brightspot and MercnBeth, etc. Sorry about the confusion -- evidentially You thought they were aimed at You.

i will miss You if You block me, for despite everything, Your posts are fun for me to try and parse out. However, if You feel i have disrespected You and You block, life will go on. Apologies have been tendered overa nd over to the "community" but so far, few have accepted them. What You speak of confuses me; the "afformation" of my choice that You perceive; assigning me not only dissembling but outright lying in this thread; etc. i really don't know where to begin to answer You.

Perhaps that was Your real point; i have no idea. i have tried hard to communicate with others on the subject of the Op, but it seems only other straight, monogamous women admit to understanding me. You say You have acknowledged my position in prior posts, but i'm sorry, i just do not see it.

candystripper

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RE: Straight Woman Blues - 12/25/2005 7:06:35 AM

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^laughs^. One of life's mysteries is why men would find two women together exciting, but women do not want to see two men together (as a rule).

I must be the odd one out, but I find two men together to be very hot

I have to agree here..I was a DM for 2 scenes that were only men. My Gawd...they were sooooo hot..lol...

Respectfully,
sultry

I love watching two men together -- gay porn movies can be so hot and some of the best BDSM fiction I have ever read is gay. Gay fiction is just very intense and sometimes I really really want the intensity.

Plus, I like men a lot, I like their bodies, two men equals twice as much lovely bodies to look at for me.

Even better is directing two men together while I watch. Yes, I have done it but not nearly as often as I'd like.....

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RE: Straight Woman Blues - 12/25/2005 7:25:30 AM

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ORIGINAL: sultryvoice

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ORIGINAL: siamsa24

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^laughs^. One of life's mysteries is why men would find two women together exciting, but women do not want to see two men together (as a rule).

I must be the odd one out, but I find two men together to be very hot

I have to agree here..I was a DM for 2 scenes that were only men. My Gawd...they were sooooo hot..lol...

Respectfully,
sultry

I love watching two men together -- gay porn movies can be so hot and some of the best BDSM fiction I have ever read is gay. Gay fiction is just very intense and sometimes I really really want the intensity.

Plus, I like men a lot, I like their bodies, two men equals twice as much lovely bodies to look at for me.

Even better is directing two men together while I watch. Yes, I have done it but not nearly as often as I'd like.....

i've have not experienced that yet, but it's a major turn on for me to think about two men, ( i mean, to be able to scene with them & watch) especially if one is dominant and the other slave. yummy!

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RE: Straight Woman Blues - 12/25/2005 8:38:07 AM

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GRRRR...this little bitty bit of bulls**t really pisses me off. Was i vague about being straight? O the hell with it.

candystripper

My advice: get a sense of humor transplant and take two chill pills. Even my straightest most vanilla friends joke about hooking up with someone of the same gender. You remind me of what I enjoy the most about my kinky friends and aquaintances: they are open minded and I can say almost anything without getting freaked out reactions. To me stretching boundaries is what my life is all about. Try it sometime - it's quite liberating.

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RE: Straight Woman Blues - 12/25/2005 9:22:31 AM

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Well, to clarify, candy: The Bombay Sapphire is for before and after. The hot fudge is for during. So. They dont really ever have to be combined, per se.

justheather

GRRRR...this little bitty bit of bulls**t really pisses me off. Was i vague about being straight? O the hell with it.

candystripper

This was in response to caitlyn's original post about flavored oil and vodka.
It is not a bitty bit of bull anything.
It's called humor.
There is room for humor on the boards whether you get it or not.
And that post, to which you replied about white russians, was directed at IrishMist.
Take a deep breath, have a white russian and flippin chill.

/nods head

Yes Candy...it was an attempt at humor to lighten things up a bit. I am sorry if you took our teasing in the wrong way :(

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RE: Straight Woman Blues - 12/25/2005 11:39:47 AM

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oh the hell with it candy, just eat some pussy and get it over with!

Merry Christmas!

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RE: Straight Woman Blues - 12/25/2005 1:49:25 PM

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oh the hell with it candy, just eat some pussy and get it over with!

Merry Christmas!

lol...well you are welcome anytime sweetwhisper; but I think I will pass on candystriper...now caitlyn...here kitty kitty.

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RE: Straight Woman Blues - 12/25/2005 1:55:02 PM

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oh the hell with it candy, just eat some pussy and get it over with!

Merry Christmas!

sweetwhisper

you're a treat. i'm not allowed cats or dogs by the housing ass'n but i have two parakeets i just adore.

i couldn't eat pussy if my life depended on it; so let's go get s**tfaced. LOL.

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RE: Straight Woman Blues - 12/25/2005 1:58:16 PM

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/nods head

Yes Candy...it was an attempt at humor to lighten things up a bit. I am sorry if you took our teasing in the wrong way :(

IrishMist

Sorry i got aggravated. It's been a mean thread.

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