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Femdom "Bachelorrette" - big femdom slumber p... - 11/30/2008 2:15:36 PM   
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I've had a chance to see some creative business models related to events, seminars, parties, etc. and have pondered the feasibility of an all-expense paid femdom get together where submissive men cater (literally) and ultimately connect, if there's chemistry, with a single dominant woman.  If you take 5 single dominant women and assume a budget to fly them all to one location for an all expense paid "retreat", slumber party, gathering, and then have 100 men apply and the ladies select their top 10, the costs could be covered if the men pay $100 each, or $500 each, depending on how high-end you want the weekend to be.  The "fee" for consideration would be a gamble for the men, of course - they would be paying this with no guarantee they'd make the cut (the women would review applications, vote, and select the top ten men), but it would virtually eliminate those men that aren't really serious about it.  The ladies could also provide 1 or 2 "scholarships" for submissive men who have no income but are exceptional.

The question is whether $10,000, for example, could cover the cost to fly 5 women to a nice hotel for a weekend party and all other costs. Perhaps it includes airfare only for the men that make the cut.  I haven't gotten the calculator out, but it seems a viable business model if done properly.  Ultimately, advertising and sponsorship could reduce the fee requirement from the men to enter the mix.

I'm not single so I'm not interested in doing this, but perhaps some entrepeneurial ladies are. Or subs, for that matter.

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RE: Femdom "Bachelorrette" - big femdom slumb... - 11/30/2008 4:33:41 PM   
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To get men to pay $100 for an application is hard. A lot of men would simply not apply because they know the woman are selecting by their own personal choices.  For example, what if the 5 woman are each telling a specific man that they would pick him?   You would need extremely attractive woman and would get a combination of rich men, attractive and stupid men - NOT easy to find.

I would suggest a more reasonable pricing structure along the following:

1.  Start in a major city with enough sub men.  New York would be appropriate.
2.   Application fee: $20.  Random selection of five men plus each woman can select from people that have applied. 
3.  All men that get accepted pay an additional $500 for a weekend trip

Assuming you get say 200 applications, then you get 200*20 + 500*10 = $9,000. 

The bus will cost about $1,000 per day.  That leaves $7,000 to rent a fairly nice set of rooms.  You can probably get 5 rooms for say $1,000 a night. Assuming you use up 4 night, that leaves $3,000 for food for 15 people for 4 days, or $50 per person per day, which should be doable.



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RE: Femdom "Bachelorrette" - big femdom slumb... - 11/30/2008 4:58:22 PM   
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What would the men who don't get picked, get for their money?

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RE: Femdom "Bachelorrette" - big femdom slumb... - 11/30/2008 5:22:50 PM   
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What would the men who don't get picked, get for their money?


They would all strive to be picked.  Or else - NADA!



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RE: Femdom "Bachelorrette" - big femdom slumb... - 11/30/2008 5:31:10 PM   
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Well, it sounds great, at least for the ladies. But my guess is, your going to have a hard time finding enough guys to donate to the cause.

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RE: Femdom "Bachelorrette" - big femdom slumb... - 11/30/2008 7:29:15 PM   
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From strictly a business model I think the math could work out to pay for the trip. From a personal point of view I do not see the incentive for submissive men to take the chance. If I am going to have a weekend getaway with Domme, I would want to be with someone I knew and had similar interests with.

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RE: Femdom "Bachelorrette" - big femdom slumb... - 11/30/2008 7:32:03 PM   
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Yanno allllll those clients that you couldn't stand, that never got appointments with you?  Those would be the ones who applied.  IMO. 

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RE: Femdom "Bachelorrette" - big femdom slumb... - 11/30/2008 8:19:34 PM   
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Well, it sounds great, at least for the ladies. But my guess is, your going to have a hard time finding enough guys to donate to the cause.


How about if all 100 men could go the first night, there's a cocktail party, the women then have to give him 3 of 5 of their votes to stay the next day. Then everyone has a fair chance.  Immediately eliminated would be men who showed up with poor hygeine or grabbed femdom asses, or asked outright to be forced to plug their ass or some such, despite reading the rules ahead of time. Can you blame those guys for being punted, even if they paid their $100? Seriously?

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RE: Femdom "Bachelorrette" - big femdom slumb... - 11/30/2008 8:21:56 PM   
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On the one hand, this sounds like mad fun.  On the other hand, I remember screening clients.  I remember attending large fetish events.  I remember so many very icky things... 

I am also wondering about the legals...  if there is money and bdsm, the police start sniffing around. 

Can I screen the guys?  I have a nightstick! 

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RE: Femdom "Bachelorrette" - big femdom slumb... - 11/30/2008 8:32:38 PM   
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Immediately eliminated would be men who showed up with poor hygeine or grabbed femdom asses, or asked outright to be forced to plug their ass or some such, despite reading the rules ahead of time. Can you blame those guys for being punted?

Factor in $50 per hour per security guard, then . . . .

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RE: Femdom "Bachelorrette" - big femdom slumb... - 11/30/2008 8:35:12 PM   
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OOOH Security guards!!  We can wear UNIFORMS!!

This is sounding more and more like fun.  It is also sounding kind of OWK, but that's okay, because my uniform will have really nice shiny boots.

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RE: Femdom "Bachelorrette" - big femdom slumb... - 11/30/2008 8:37:02 PM   
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Security guards, or an on-site paramedic team for all the "subs" who get their asses kicked for being jerks? 

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RE: Femdom "Bachelorrette" - big femdom slumb... - 11/30/2008 8:38:24 PM   
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I have friends who are paramedics!  On these very boards!  See, we are totally prepared. 

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RE: Femdom "Bachelorrette" - big femdom slumb... - 11/30/2008 8:42:51 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

On the one hand, this sounds like mad fun.  On the other hand, I remember screening clients.  I remember attending large fetish events.  I remember so many very icky things... 

I am also wondering about the legals...  if there is money and bdsm, the police start sniffing around. 

Can I screen the guys?  I have a nightstick! 


Sadly yeah, the legal side of it makes it yucky..but if there is NO bdsm play (or, that is done OFF site, like a field trip to a local dungeon on the final night)....who is to say what is what - everyone is dressed conservatively, polite.  It's a cocktail party, a mixer. For all they know it could be a church group.

The thing that interests me the most is to make it so single femdoms could meet in one location, all expenses paid, and truly eligible subs could also join them, and the thing is financed for a fraction of what many guys pay for in porn, ie, $100.  And they all get a shot.  Maybe if they get punted, they receive anonymous feedback regarding what they could do better.  Sponsors could include toy companies, so 'gift bags' and nice gifts could be given.  Like I said before, you do it a couple times and prove the audience is good, you can have sponsors start paying the hard costs. 

Ahh, it's fun to think of such things. 

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RE: Femdom "Bachelorrette" - big femdom slumb... - 11/30/2008 8:50:00 PM   
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Sponsors could include toy companies . . . 

Am I missing something here, A?  Are you thinking of approaching, for instance, the Disney corporation with this idea?  I've seen them taking a less conservative line in their output since Walt died . . .  but a BDSM event? 

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RE: Femdom "Bachelorrette" - big femdom slumb... - 11/30/2008 8:51:33 PM   
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Ah.  Not that kind of "toy". 

As you were.

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RE: Femdom "Bachelorrette" - big femdom slumb... - 11/30/2008 8:56:20 PM   
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Ah.  Not that kind of "toy". 

As you were.


Adult video companies, adult toy companies, companies that host "sex parties" geared toward couples and single men.  Lots of money out there, lots of companies wanting to be front of mind.  Local dungeons could also sponsor aspects of it, hoping to collect on horny leftovers - the shirt-stained guys and ass-grabbers that got put on the first bus out of there :)

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RE: Femdom "Bachelorrette" - big femdom slumb... - 11/30/2008 10:04:59 PM   
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Your approach to this is more sound than the one the OP proposes.  There is however a problem with the economics of the exchange.  In a large city, as you mention, there is a wide range of diversity in the potential pool of the subs.  For the most attractive ones, male or female, they ultimately have the power at the end of selecting the best partner in that they are the ones who are being most sought.  This fact counteracts even the seeming advantage of a dominant in there being a low dominant to submissive ratio.  On the surface, it would seem that a dominant has a larger pool at his or her disposal.  The reality is that there will always be those shinny, symmetric, pretty diamonds, glimmering among the lumps of coal and lesser caliber diamonds in the rough that still await polishing.  And these are the most sought and priciest in what the dominant can afford in terms of capital of how attractive, intelligent, or overall interesting that dominant is.  At the end, an attractive male (or female) sub does not need to pay for the privledge of being "chosen" by a dominant when they have the ultimate free lunch in whom they decide will "take" them.  And while the ratio of dominant to submissive is low, for anyone with any real experience at major cities and fetish clubs, the ratio of attractive subs to attractive doms is typically higher,and this skewing cuts across gender as well.  Attactive subs have the best deal, even more so than attractive dominants.  Attractive submissive women have known this for a long time, and now as men in general have gotten more vain, attractive male subs have gotten wise to this fact as well.  At the end then, the only real applicants willing to pay the price proposed will be those that have to pay in essence and for women who have to have such a formal process to attract that less diversified pool of submissives.

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RE: Femdom "Bachelorrette" - big femdom slumb... - 11/30/2008 10:18:46 PM   
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Why would a guy want to pay from $100 to $500 on a "maybe" (and an unlikely "maybe" at that, number wise) when they can take the same money to a local pro domme and have a "sure thing"?

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RE: Femdom "Bachelorrette" - big femdom slumb... - 11/30/2008 10:41:53 PM   
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lol  Bingo.  Yeah, she really didn't think her premise through too well now did she?  The ones that need to pay will go for the sure thing you point out; and the ones that don't have to pay, won't be there.  Even the "pretty boi" type, often belittled unjustifiably as being stupid, are wise to this and realize their worth that they simply wouldn't settle and pay--because they need not pay.

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