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RE: rehabilitating the term "princess" .. - 12/27/2008 3:57:10 PM   
MisterMonster


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I just picture a dude who can't really do that much work, like cutting wood or something. You'd bag on him by going, "Ohh, is it too hard, Princess?" Then he'd be like, "Fuck you, Dale, my fingers are cold...piece of shit gloves..."

So, yeah.

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RE: rehabilitating the term "princess" .. - 12/27/2008 7:27:41 PM   
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My first reaction is that it is someone who is spoiled rotten too. However, I did have a bdsm friend whose nickname was princesss and she was quite the opposite of that! So I am prepared to be open-minded about the term too. However, it was never applied to Me (I never had a pink frilly dress ) and isn't likely to be at My age. If I had to be anything, I could handle being a Queen to My knight.

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RE: rehabilitating the term "princess" .. - 12/28/2008 12:08:29 AM   
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I am considered a princess sub and believe me its a good thing

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RE: rehabilitating the term "princess" .. - 12/28/2008 3:03:29 AM   
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Usually I see the term applied to female sub/slaves and to a specific genre’ of mundane ladies in a most negative manner. It usually refers to a spoilt brat with the belief: “Me, me and always me first”, self centered, drama queens along the lines of  the type we love to dislike on the TV News who could be modeled after Paris Hilton mostly without the fortune behind them. Some of them are nothing but trophy girls and yet I know trophy girls who are not negative princesses.     Another thought arises.. but I’ll kick that to it’s own thread…

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RE: rehabilitating the term "princess" .. - 12/28/2008 4:21:14 AM   
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quote:

Simply put it uses the precepts and advice given in Machiavelli's The Prince (a guide to 15th century statesmanship), twists them slightly and explains how to apply them in modern society to getting what you need in life and love but while still being 100% a woman. Embracing your feminine strengths, weakness, skills and vulnerabilities about going into the world not as a woman playing a man's game and being disadvantaged, but as a woman creating her own game, her own rules, and winning.


I have done precisely as I pleased in My life, by My own rules, I have never felt I was disadvantaged nor less than 100% woman-I have never played by "their" rules, I have always played by Mine---however, that is speaking from a free country--perhaps if I lived in a third world country or one where women were second class citizens I may feel differently.
 
I am not offended when people at times have called Me "Princess"-it has not insulted Me or made Me feel anything more than loving teasing.

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RE: rehabilitating the term "princess" .. - 12/28/2008 9:55:08 AM   
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I have pink fuzzy hearts with "Princess" embroidered on them hanging from my windshield mirror.  I have a few tshirts with princess on them.  I own a few different tiaras which I wear to no special occasion at all.

For me "Princess" is a reclamation of my femininity, a reminder that it is ok to be soft, to be spoiled sometimes, that I deserve to be treated very well.  Since so much of my life has been about making do, being tough, being alone, making my own path, I feel very glad to be able to have outlets to allow the other parts to enjoy some sunlight.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_2011633/mpage_1/key_princess/tm.htm#2012504
What is a princess?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_1859708/mpage_1/key_princess/tm.htm#1860083
submissive princess?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_1273949/mpage_1/key_princess/tm.htm#1274131
a spin on "princess"

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RE: rehabilitating the term "princess" .. - 12/28/2008 10:34:54 AM   
TreasureKY


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quote:

ORIGINAL: softness

so .... my dear reader
  1. When you think of the term princess ... what do you *really* think?
  2. If you were/are called princess is it serious? sarcastic? ironic? loving? How do you react to being called it?
  3. If you have a negative view of the term Princess ... can you imagine a positive meaning? how does that princess behave?
  4. anybody read The Princessa .. care to make any comments about the ideas contained therein?

My thoughts on the term "princess" can pretty much be found in a thread I started a year or so ago, "A Spin on "Princess""...

"In a thread earlier today where submissives were discussing the names that their dominants used for them, I mentioned that I’ve always wanted to be called “princess”.  I’ve noted that many dominants are revolted by that diminutive because it typically represents the spoiled, little, rich girl and brings to mind the type of woman who uses her feminine wiles to get her way.
 
FirmhandKY and I had a conversation just about a year ago where this subject was brought up and I thought I’d share what I explained to him was my take on “princess”.

In very ancient history, “princess” was a title used for a woman belonging to a Prince.  A princess was a Prince’s property, whether she was his consort or his wife.  A little later in history, “princess” began being used to refer to daughters of Kings.

Now while I’m sure there were plenty of princesses who don’t fit the behavioral mold I will expound, in general princesses were chattel... property.  Valued, of course, but still property of the King before they became property of their husband.  They had no say in what they did, where they went, and who they wed.  They obeyed.

They were raised to be owned… valuable property to be traded for political reasons.  They were trained to obey, and to obey gracefully.   Those who learned well knew how to maintain their dignity while obeying, even when it was something they abhorred.  They saw the larger picture... understood the role they played, and their obedience was the evidence of their fealty to their King.

As a little girl, I was enamored with princesses.  They were the epitome of femininity to me and I’m sure I had more than one fantasy of being found to be some long lost princess.

However, there was a bit deeper desire hidden within those fantasies.  It wasn’t so that I could be whisked away into a life of luxury… not that I would have minded.    But the thought of being whisked away to become the property of some Prince... a man of great intelligence and power that I could serve.

lol… Yes, I wanted nothing more than to be a princess, then.  It’s not necessary now as I belong to my Prince, even if he doesn’t have a title. 

Of course, this is simply my own perception and the general public will never adopt it.  But perhaps a few here might start looking at that term of endearment in a new light.

By the way... FirmhandKY still doesn't call me "princess".  "

Edited to add:

As for the book you mention, I've not read it but it sounds interesting.  While I can agree with the idea of a woman making her own world (I believe we all do so, already, to a large extent), I don't believe I could embrace the idea of being so... Machiavellian.

< Message edited by TreasureKY -- 12/28/2008 10:45:41 AM >

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RE: rehabilitating the term "princess" .. - 12/28/2008 2:32:04 PM   
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Well, here ya go. It's in my profile here and my name. I view it as a possitive. As my profile states, I was spoiled as a child and expect to be now. Although, the spoiling doesn't necessarily mean by buying me expensive gifts. I was spoiled with attention and love. Not monetary gifts. As for being bratty, I can be....have been called one, but, mostly when it's because I have a different opinion from a new "dom" I'm talking to and he thinks just because I'm a submissive, I should automatically follow his instructions even though we've only had a couple of conversations.
 
Just for the record, I have a job and support myself and 2 um's without help from their father,  so I don't consider myself to be lazy. I work hard for what I have and want.

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