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RE: Humiliating you dom untill he cries - 1/14/2009 8:10:44 AM

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus
It would also tell me that you might not be suited to a d/s relationship!

Absolutely! I personally can't imagine this happening to me at this stage in my life, but would find it absolutely unacceptable coming from a submissive of mine.
I cry for many reasons, but generally not someone losing their minds/control and becoming verbally abusive. I'm more likely to cry from a gentle approach than a harsh one. M

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RE: Humiliating you dom untill he cries - 1/14/2009 8:35:17 AM

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ORIGINAL: Carmeldelight
No, it was never a negotiation at all to allow humiliation in our play or even in our lives. He went there because he was big daddy dom and I brought him back to reality. I will not allow or give a dom permission to humiliate me. To me when a man tries to humiliate a subbie/slaves and he is a males or a female it makes me wounder how was their relationship with their father (for the female mistress and mother for the doms). Is there some type of mental pay back they are doing when they want to humiliate a subbie/slave. Does anyone else feel this way?

Since you turned the table on Him,
shouldn't you know if you have had a payback feeling towards your dad????

What a noncence you're saying here.

Apparently you don't understand humiliation,
you should read about it, on how it's done,
and what's the purpose of it.

So even you shouldn't do something you've no clue
about if you don't get it your way ,
what's wrong with NORMAL communicating?

Since he is your bitch now, gosh things happen quickly here,..
I can't keep up woman! are Yyou both happy now!?

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RE: Humiliating you dom untill he cries - 1/14/2009 8:37:30 AM

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

humiliation is a two-way street...some folks you just can't humiliate, no matter how hard you try! this slave imagines Master to be one of those folks.

the thought of this slave attempting to "turn the tables" and humiliate Him, in or out of a scene, or how this slave would deal with the repurcussions of being sucessfull at such a thing is rather nauseating and hard to imagine.

Ditto.i cant imagine anything that would humiliate Master, but i can imagine thousands of ways this girl would be punished for even thinking it. a beating at best, banishment at worst.
edited to add. its good that there's someone for every type of kink. i'm lucky to have found mine.

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RE: Humiliating you dom untill he cries - 1/21/2009 9:22:04 AM

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Master T would make sure my ass was purple if I ever topped from the bottom. I am just saying that someone that takes over and inflicts the mental punishment onto the one that is the Dom/Master...it sounds more like a switch that is out of line...like I said...that is JMO.

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RE: Humiliating you dom untill he cries - 1/22/2009 1:33:23 PM

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i find it very difficult to believe that a sub/slave could reduce a dominant man to a whiney pile of snot and tears unless his life, family or career were being jeopardized and/or used against him.

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RE: Humiliating you dom untill he cries - 1/22/2009 1:40:35 PM

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I am not being funny here.

It is amazing how many people will cry when you dislocate their knee, Dom/me or not.

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RE: Humiliating you dom untill he cries - 1/22/2009 1:47:06 PM

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ORIGINAL: feydeplume
I am not being funny here.
It is amazing how many people will cry when you dislocate their knee, Dom/me or not

Yes, okay that might make me cry, but not because it's humiliating. *That chit hurts like hell*

M

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RE: Humiliating you dom untill he cries - 1/22/2009 1:47:23 PM

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Okay, so you humiliated someone so much they dislocated their knee? What???

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RE: Humiliating you dom untill he cries - 1/22/2009 2:04:10 PM

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I can't even begin to imagine doing such a thing to my owner.

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RE: Humiliating you dom untill he cries - 1/22/2009 2:26:39 PM

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It was a response to the "real" Doms don't cry comments. Sorry for any confusion there. And no, i have never verbally or physically abused a "D" until they cried. i have made a few blush, walk away quickly, and report my behavior to my D. I have even slapped one when She tried to do something to me with a strap-on, without ask me, my D and in defiance of the "house rules" of that gathering of people. *thinks back* ok maybe there have been a few other instances, but they were in self-defense and i got away with out serious damage like rape or death.

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RE: Humiliating you dom untill he cries - 1/22/2009 2:34:14 PM

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ORIGINAL: feydeplume

I am not being funny here.

It is amazing how many people will cry when you dislocate their knee, Dom/me or not.

It is also less than amazing how many people will lash out violently, both verbally and physically, when someone causes them extreme pain.

From an animal lover that grabbed a very large branch and clobbered a very stupid horse right between the eyes after having her shoulder and collarbone dislocated. After she staggered up a steep, muddy 30 foot incline and right before she puked and passed out.

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RE: Humiliating you dom untill he cries - 1/22/2009 3:42:13 PM

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I do NOT feel if a Master cries it makes him less of a Master. What I would say is the reason could make a difference. I mean they are human. If their Mother died I would expect them to cry. If their child was hurt I would expect them to cry. In the case you mention I think I would have expected him to put you back in your place or walk away. I do have to ask why you feel we should judge his crying, when it seems your actions is more the question here. This though may be due to the relationship you all have. I mean are you TPE, Master/slave, Dom/sub, is this a full time relationship and how long? Was humiliating a limit you had mentioned to him? Do you all only carry the D/s M/s part of you into the bedroom not your day to day life? All this could matter in making any call on what happened. I also ask if you all are only D/s M/s in the bedroom, and it was a limit for you, does two wrongs make a right? A better question might be can you and him both come back to the relationship after this. Not only can you see him as the Dom but can he see you as the sub or slave now after you done this?
Even in a non D/s M/s relationship I would not resort to saying things to my partner that would do this to them even if they were doing it to me. There are better ways to handle it.

Just my thoughts
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RE: Humiliating you dom untill he cries - 1/22/2009 8:52:43 PM

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ORIGINAL: GoddessTeaze

Since you turned the table on Him,
shouldn't you know if you have had a payback feeling towards your dad????

What a noncence you're saying here.

Apparently you don't understand humiliation,
you should read about it, on how it's done,
and what's the purpose of it.

So even you shouldn't do something you've no clue
about if you don't get it your way ,
what's wrong with NORMAL communicating?

Since he is your bitch now, gosh things happen quickly here,..
I can't keep up woman! are Yyou both happy now!?

GoddezzT`

As far as the person who, mention my father, I feel sorry for you because you are just reaching for straws.

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RE: Humiliating you dom untill he cries - 1/22/2009 8:54:47 PM

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I have looked at what every one here has had to say, some of it is funny as hell and some of it is confusing. This has made very interesting conversation, I think on how people feel that this could never happen to them, my response is never say never because you do not know a will of a person. Yes, I do know how to converse with my dom, but let’s look at it, some dom and mistress are a pain in the ass and needs to be put in their place from time to time. My dom stepped out of his place with me and I just put him back into his place.

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RE: Humiliating you dom untill he cries - 1/22/2009 9:23:42 PM

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ORIGINAL: Carmeldelight

My dom stepped out of his place with me and I just put him back into his place.

Yeah, well, as long as you're both happy.

Cali
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RE: Humiliating you dom untill he cries - 1/22/2009 9:30:41 PM

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I am happy with my life

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RE: Humiliating you dom untill he cries - 1/23/2009 4:52:26 AM

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ORIGINAL: Carmeldelight

I am happy with my life

Well thats all that is important really you just cant expect everyone else to want the same kind of dynamic. This thread was asking how they would respond and react not everyone is the same (thank goodness for that hey) but all that matters is that you have a dynamic and relationship that works for you

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RE: Humiliating you dom untill he cries - 1/23/2009 5:06:08 AM

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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

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ORIGINAL: Carmeldelight
I am just asking a question would you stay in the relationship and would you still respect him for dis respecting you!!!!

Your question is invalid, as it assumes a series of events that most people here would not choose. It is like saying, if you cracked open your dom's head, and you took him to the hospital, would you say he got hit by a hit & run driver or would you give a false name at the hospital since you don't have insurance.

Most people would say, "I would never hit my dom"... but that doesn't answer your question.

I would certainly address his behavior and what he was saying to me, but going "tit for tat" on it solves nothing. It certainly isn't a mature nor an effective means of working out problems.

Cali

We're not sposed to give false names at the hospital? Ohhhh.. well. ok.
*makes a note

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RE: Humiliating you dom untill he cries - 1/23/2009 5:08:08 AM

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Since I don't know the limits and agreements you both agreed to in your relationship I don't feel qualified to answer in specifics to your situation.

For me, I would not lose respect for my Domme if she cried. It would touch me deeply and I would only wish to hold her and help her through her sadness or whatever was bothering her.

As for humiliation, I am not a big fan of it for me. In the past, as a novice, I got involved with a woman who claimed to be a Mistress. She was another's slave and wanted to try her hand at being a Mistress, with the permission of her own Mistress. After 6 months of verbal abuse and physical abuse I sat down with her and told her I could take no more. She then verbally abused me and I know I had made the right decision. She just wanted someone to take her frustrations out on. She was unhappy with her Mistress so I got the anger she could not release on her Mistress. But, I had no desire to humiliate her. I find those who need to belittle and humiliate others to such an extent, when it is not agreed upon, must be in a lot of pain themselves. I try to find ways to communicate with them. If that doesn't work, I walk away.

Of course, I have not always been like this. In the past, I used to get frustrated easily and raise my voice a lot. Once in awhile I'd blow my top and yell. Then I would beat myself up for I do not like that kind of energy in myself. It serves no real purpose other than usually causing both parties to get defensive and then nothing gets solved. And then again, one party may end up in tears.

If I were in a situation in which I were blessed with a Mistress, and she humiliated me to the point where I was offended, insulted and or hurt, then I would express my hurt to her and if after that she did not care then I would have to take a time out to re-evaluate my choice in such a Mistress/Domme. But, I know this would not happen for we would have discussed limits way before and for quite some time. I will never again allow another to treat me like dung. I am too precious.

Now, if I had a temper tantrum for some reason which offended her and brought her to tears then I would apologize. And again, this would be because we would have discussed many of these things before hand. But, being that we are both human and apt to make errors, well, feelings can get hurt. I just hope I would never again be so blinded by rage that I could do that to someone I love dearly. Life is too short and negativity is running way too rampant in our world.

If she were brought to tears, I most certainly would not lose respect for her. It would make me respect her even more. Sure, a Master/Mistress is one who has hopefully Mastered themselves so they can master another, but they are still human and will have vulnerable moments. That makes them even stronger in my eyes and I would strive harder to please her. Our relationship would be constantly evolving based upon our own personal and spiritual growth. But that is just for me.

I am glad you are happy in your relationship. So long as it works for you both and it is consensual than that is what is most important.

Blessings,
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RE: Humiliating you dom untill he cries - 1/23/2009 5:31:10 AM

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ORIGINAL: Carmeldelight
As far as the person who, mention my father, I feel sorry for you because you are just reaching for straws.

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ORIGINAL: GoddessTeaze
I simply repeated your ridiculous words and Im not reaching for any straws, just feed you your own lines.

good to hear your happy so is your Dom now?

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