Tavane
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Reigna: I think that many service subs don't require any more reciprocity than being a service sub, or at least I loved it with a female friend who would let me be her slave periodically. She wasn't attracted to me, but we were very good friends. She was beautiful, and attracted to very masculine men (who inevitably treated her poorly), so sex was out, but servinjg "was" sex to me, but without an orgasm, and it was constant and incredible pleasure. I was the one who was getting by far the most pleasure and happiness from the relationship, despite that she was getting manicures, pedicures, her laundry done, and foot massages which could have lasted as long as she wanted them to. Not many people can have constant and incredible "sex', but a service sub can.
Isillogysm: I agree that many Female Led Relationships can start out as vanilla ones, but do think that most of the time a female won't be interested in it, and will only do it to please the male, because of her affection for him, and wishes it wssn't a part of the relationship. We can only speculate on numbers, but I'm influenced by a few things. One, that there are no bars which cater to this lifestyle. That would be perfect, if you could go to a bar and know that nearly all of the patrons were dominant or submissive, so you just needed to meet a woman, and it would be quickly apparent if she was dominant or submissive. You could be friends with submissive women, and potential slaves to dominant women. It's such an incredibly powerful desire that if such people existed in numbers, a bar could make a fortune, since everyone enjoys the fun of social interaction and meeing friends and getting together with them, and having a place to go. There are all kinds of gay bars, which also cater to TG people, and have been for decades, but with this lifestyle, there seem to be only events, not regular places where you could go any night.
Also, if you look at FLR sites/lists, there are usually only a couple of thousand males on them. Presumably 200 million or so males have access to the internet, so as a matter of numbers, that's only 1 out of every 100,000 males who have located that site/list. Given the male interest in porn, which exists whether or not they are in a relationship, and the power and pleasure of submission, that's a very small number. Even if the figure is 100 times that high, that's still only 1 out of 1000 males, which is why I believe it's very rare, and why places don't exist which cater to it. Capitalism will always find outlets for anything which has a demand. It's kind of embarrassing when your idea of hard core porn is for your wife to put an apron on you and have you do her laundry or nails, but pleasure is pleasure, and there aren't many sites which cater to submissive males, whatever their kinks, and those that exist don't have many people on them, as a matter of percentages.
It makes me laugh when these FLR sites discuss how female supremacy is the "wave of the future" and clearly on the rise. Men just aren't interested in it, nor are women, except in negligible percentages, from what evidence we have, and though we are speculating, the only evidence we do have does support this contention. That's not important, since so long as you can find a single person who enjoys what you do, that's all that matters, but it's not easy, when compared to "normal" ways of meeting people, whether you are straight, gay, TG, or whatever.
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A few of them were already experienced with other people, and the others were openminded or had actively fantasised about it, but hadn't had an opportunity to explore it.
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