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RE: ~~Rules, Rules, Rules~~ - 2/22/2009 9:12:37 AM

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Actually camille65 I ws being serious. You seem to have info that would not be given by most doctors. Should a problem arise and I was conserned I am sure I would actually write you a letter.

Any Snarkyness was completely preceived without merit.

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RE: ~~Rules, Rules, Rules~~ - 2/22/2009 9:19:45 AM

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ORIGINAL: Kalista07

Seriously resisting all urges to volunteer to be a *tester*

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RE: ~~Rules, Rules, Rules~~ - 2/22/2009 10:30:33 AM

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Perfect obedience and exquisite beauty. Those are the rules in my house for slave girls. Not rules really, more like the duty of a slave. If it is less than perfectly obedient, or if I find it less than exquisitely beautiful, the girl is subject to discipline.

The perfectly obedient part is rather self-explanatory. If I command it, it is to be carried out without question, unless permission is asked and an exception is made beforehand. Beauty extends to everything. The way a girl moves, speaks, presents herself to me, addresses herself to her daily routine, or how she relates to others. Beauty is a subjective thing to be sure, but where it is not simple common sense, a girl learns quickly enough what I find to be beautiful, and what I do not. It is incumbent on her, as the slave, to learn and adapt, and meet my expectations.

That's how it goes in my house. I have nothing against "rule-books" per-se, it's just not how I manage slaves.

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RE: ~~Rules, Rules, Rules~~ - 2/22/2009 6:27:47 PM

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ORIGINAL: sojourner9

I really only have three "always applies" rules. Although they are all 3 related. Everything else is dependent on the situation.

1) Never lie to me. Ever. About anything.
2) If you have any fear/uncertainty/doubt/questions - tell/ask me! Doesn't guarantee I'll answer, but I always want to know.
3) If you can't / don't / won't complete an assignment / task - tell me! Real life happens, emergencies happen, you may try and fail. Don't make excuses, don't try to hide it.

Pretty much covers my outlook, too.

At the other end of the spectrum is nonsense like this...

http://www.albanypowerexchange.com/TPE/slave_rules1.htm

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RE: ~~Rules, Rules, Rules~~ - 2/22/2009 8:48:49 PM

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I would have to agree that it seems silly to have so many rules if there is no ability to tell if the rules are being followed. However, I feel that this is somewhat different than receiving an order and having to report on whether the order was followed in your time apart.

To me, rules are somewhat like standing orders that always apply. I don't have to ask for clarification and there is no need to discuss the rules in place as I am perfectly aware of them. There are certain actions I must take when on the way to see her, and certain things I am expected to do when I return home. Mistress is aware when I break one of her rules and I know I will be painfully aware of it also.

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RE: ~~Rules, Rules, Rules~~ - 2/22/2009 8:56:39 PM

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ok my 2 cents worth really late in this topic, my Master has a 10 page list of about 212 rules give or take that we neg and agreed upon before he would take me as a slave. but this also included what can be used as a sever punishment, that one being one of my hard limits so if i ever pissed him off to the point of using it, i believe we would be over anyway! there are a few that were non-neg, but those are the easy ones. other then that each and ever rule can be adapted to the place and people around us.

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RE: ~~Rules, Rules, Rules~~ - 2/22/2009 9:33:13 PM

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My Sir's rules for me are:

1. I must have permission to have an orgasm
2. I must always be respectful
3. I must have permission to play with others.

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RE: ~~Rules, Rules, Rules~~ - 2/22/2009 10:48:37 PM

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for me...i like the idea of rules/guildlines/conditions..whatever one wants to call it. sorry yes i am one of those brainless sorts that needs to have my day to day spelled out for me so to speak..i has the a.d.d.. and i'm way to easily destracted on top of that you add bad memory..well then i really get lost..just look at my house i started to clean it and forgot what i was doing when i walked by the comp and seen this post... please be nice and dont ask me how long it took me to type this out..really dont want to say ...besides i like knowing that i'm cared for enough that someone took the time to say "hey this is how i like things please see to it that its done htis way..." (and yes i'm aware taht that doesnt mean im cared for or not)..then again i realise that not everyone likes to be micromanaged ..i dont either but i do like to have some things laid out for me saves me from waisting time hemming and hawing...

panties schmanties..i quit wearing those blasted things when i was dancing..got tired of panties and jeans dont make pretty panty line marks upon the skin...
as to wearing panites while bleeding...i am a bleeder dont ask me how to spell the blasted word i'm liable to get lost in wiki and take even longer an most likely delete this post..like all the other posts ive attepmted to try to post...but its a heebie jeebie or a heemo neemo..
anyhooo.. at the ancient old age of egads...34..i would like to think that i have bled enough in my time to know when i am going to start ..when i am on.. and when i bloody well better run for the nearest john or csi will appear and leave without a body to investigate...and yes i have been checked and am healthy im such an easy bleeder that my doc just loves for me to come in for my yearly..she gets to start me on my period without even trying ..personally i think its cause she scares the crap out of me..but since thats not the area she is seeing to..you get the idea..
and i really wonder why everyone is so set on periods and panties....or the guys rules... really..like he said ..over..and over..and bloody well lets see if he says it over..yet again..it works for them.. as far as i can see he was wanting opinions on peoples views of having rules..not what everyone hates about his rules that as he stated over and over and over again...works for him and his...
and now i will run off and find something else to get destracted with cause the longer i am here the less i start to make sence....
oohh and i love that word..snarky...heehee no matter where i see it it cracks me up.. and sorry about all the misspellings me and spell check dont get along and ive already gone thru and reread to correct what i can and well..lets say that this used to be soooo much shorter..but then again maybe i shoulf get someone to make that a rule..nooo posting without everyones approval....*snorts* ..wonder if that works..lololol
ohh and i do have to agree that dissappointment is the worst punishment of all...egads that sucks big time
and i dont think that rules means the person has trust issues..i just think thats part of how they enjoy their life structure...after all..if she doesnt like it..she does have the option to leave or even before that ..she had the option not to get involved with him if the rules werent liked...
that is something we all have the right to..find out before hand then you have no worries

(logs out before i spell check or reread what i wrote and continue to blather on...)
(logs in and corrects another misspelled word or two...ohh and by the by...it took 23 minutes..(make that 26)to go thru and redo and undo and get utterly lost in my own lil' world : P)

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RE: ~~Rules, Rules, Rules~~ - 2/23/2009 2:42:04 AM

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Rules???? We don't need no stinkin rules..... Sorry, it just came out. Seriously, I have only one rule, obey me......if she doesn't, she is punished, if she doesn't want to be punished, she goes. I don't have extensive rules, I teach my girls what I want and expect them to have the intelligence to do their job.

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RE: ~~Rules, Rules, Rules~~ - 2/24/2009 8:16:03 AM

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i love rules...but i also love to break them...not sure why??? lol i dont break 'serious' rules though!!

when we first got together, He had rules for me from 'best training site'...but as we have gotten to know each other, we dont use any list. we developed a way of being, and like it that way. i know what He expects of me, and try my best to do and be pleasing...and He knows what i need and does His best as well.

i love the control aspect of rules though and sometimes wish i had more!!! :)

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RE: ~~Rules, Rules, Rules~~ - 2/24/2009 2:48:47 PM

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ORIGINAL: girlygurl

My Sir's rules for me are:

1. I must have permission to have an orgasm
2. I must always be respectful
3. I must have permission to play with others.

but..........but.............but...........Girly................. Does that mean i need to appeal to Him before i can have my evil ways with you????

Kali

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RE: ~~Rules, Rules, Rules~~ - 2/24/2009 2:56:52 PM

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i don't mind rules......i prefer them than the guessing game of "I'll change the rules you must follow to suit My mood and you are expected to keep up or keep one step ahead"

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RE: ~~Rules, Rules, Rules~~ - 2/24/2009 2:57:51 PM

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that is one game i won't play *smiles oh so sweetly*

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RE: ~~Rules, Rules, Rules~~ - 2/26/2009 6:15:09 PM

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long lists of rules aren't necessarily needed, however, clear and precise expectations are...

my rules are such... you do as i say, when i say, how i say, without question or defiance of any kind... because you trust that i won't command something that may hurt you in any way. If you want my collar you follow my rule.

my list of expectations can be much longer tho...
bras are never acceptable (my slave has smaller breasts so it doesn't have a physical affect)
panties are only acceptable once a month
the house is to be kept in a reasonable manner
never ever speak to men or dominants that i do not know and trust unless i am present
... are just the basic few expectations that i have...

rules that i can not enforce are indeed useless... so it's somewhat open, if she does something that displeases me she is told and she does not repeat that action... that simple...

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RE: ~~Rules, Rules, Rules~~ - 2/26/2009 8:33:55 PM

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ORIGINAL: kyraofMists

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ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah
I said "Most of your Rules are pointless as she is able to break them without you knowing, what is the point of a rule if it can be broke without consequence?"

For us, the point of rules, is to exercise his authority and control in our lives, and not to dole out consequences. For us, if he has to physically witness us following or not following his rules to know that we are doing his will, then the relationship is already dead. If he cannot trust our commitment that we made to him to do his will then there is no trust between us. If we (Alandra and I) can disobey him with no internal negative consequence then I would consider us extremely lacking in personal integrity.

If our relationship was structured with this mindset I would see it as lacking trust, lacking integrity and the three of us as lacking in character strengths that we all find very important and critical for our relationship.

I like rules; I like structure; I like that he enjoys exercising his authority in my life. I like that because many of the expectations are set down as rules that it exercises my character strengths in order to follow them.

Knight's Kyra

I agree with everything you said.
Funny, I knew I probably would before I read it.
I like rules, and I also like structure.
From your post and your KOM's posts, I see the love and joy
and freedom that your "rules" give you.
Many don't realize there can be more freedom and happiness when
you have "rules" to live by.
Like a line from Janis Joplin, sometimes "freedom" can be another word
for nothing left to lose.

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RE: ~~Rules, Rules, Rules~~ - 2/26/2009 9:19:12 PM

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ORIGINAL: Kalista07

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ORIGINAL: girlygurl

My Sir's rules for me are:

1. I must have permission to have an orgasm
2. I must always be respectful
3. I must have permission to play with others.

but..........but.............but...........Girly................. Does that mean i need to appeal to Him before i can have my evil ways with you????

Kali

Oh sweet Kali, He would not hesitate in saying yes to you.

girly (lubs her some Kali-cakes)

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RE: ~~Rules, Rules, Rules~~ - 2/27/2009 2:14:24 PM

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Mooncup...nothing better, more convenient, safe and eco friendly. Forget all other methods regarding periods and feminine hygiene, a mooncup or two are far better all round.

That's the advert/ public service announcement over, now to take exception to rule 2.

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Do not walk away from me in the middle of an argument should one occur – Although you may be going to cool down I am getting more worked up and so all arguments or differences of opinion will be continues until agreed upon or solved.

To have a rule regarding arguments amongst a list so small would, to me, be a worry. It hasn't taken much work to form a relationship where not one argument has been heard in nigh on 6 years, yet the above reads like someone cannot handle not being heard, unable to control their anger, and unable to do what others would do, put distance and quiet between them and their protagonist.

Lack of control here?

Just a thought.

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RE: ~~Rules, Rules, Rules~~ - 2/28/2009 9:46:26 AM

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ORIGINAL: sojourner9

I really only have three "always applies" rules. Although they are all 3 related. Everything else is dependent on the situation.

1) Never lie to me. Ever. About anything.
2) If you have any fear/uncertainty/doubt/questions - tell/ask me! Doesn't guarantee I'll answer, but I always want to know.
3) If you can't / don't / won't complete an assignment / task - tell me! Real life happens, emergencies happen, you may try and fail. Don't make excuses, don't try to hide it.

Great rules. Master has one more for me too.....monogamy for B/both of us.....this one is a deal-breaker for sure.

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RE: ~~Rules, Rules, Rules~~ - 3/1/2009 5:40:44 PM

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ORIGINAL: InkedDsCouple
never ever speak to men or dominants that i do not know and trust unless i am present

I'm curious as to how this would be enforced, unless someone is kept in isolation it seems to me that a person would at some point speak to a man you don't know.

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RE: ~~Rules, Rules, Rules~~ - 3/1/2009 6:50:58 PM

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Mooncup...nothing better, more convenient, safe and eco friendly. Forget all other methods regarding periods and feminine hygiene, a mooncup or two are far better all round.

That's the advert/ public service announcement over

Thankfully I finally appear to be six months without more than a tiny bit of stopping but I tried the damned thing and it dislodged if I coughed, if I sneezed. Never worked for me. Oh yeah, and tampons gave me cramps.

Personally ruining all my clothes with blood was not on my list of most favorite activities nor was having to buy new clothes myself. So no panties here was reserved for when we were together and he would be planning to have access to me. Not for picnics with the family etc.

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