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RE: Low Income Dominants. - 9/8/2006 1:33:26 AM

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To my mind it is all to do with who he is and not how large his bank account is.

Honesty, a sense of honour, trustworthy and in control of his life... are to me baselines of what I expect of myself. That control doesn't require me to have much, but to live reasonably well on what I've got.

I've only to look out at many of the vanilla's in London here who are part of the credit culture and upto their necks in debt after trying to live above their means.... yet they manage a lower standard of living. A scruffy top with a desgner lable is still a scruffy top but they must have it, trainers with a fashionable design that cost four times what I pay for a good pair of boots, a car that is more 'pimped up' that the one their mate has yet london has a good (If old) public transport system.

Compaired to many of them, I live well AND I've no debt. I'm pretty much in control to my mind.

I'm not a sub so can't say what they might look for in a Dom... but I'd think "Honesty, a sense of honour, trustworthy and in control of his life" would be pretty high on the list with most of the ones I'm likely to be looking toward anything long term with.

Very Very true. what says a huge amount of money in hand produces the qualities one should be looking for in a Dominant anyway? maybe they have MOR good qualities because they HAVE to think about money and not spend it all the time. being frugal can be good.
I think you said it very well. Love your name RavenMuse :-)

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RE: Low Income Dominants. - 9/8/2006 1:41:46 AM

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Income aside... real men have a proletarian heart.

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RE: Low Income Dominants. - 9/8/2006 3:16:38 AM

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Why on earth would you want to be poor ?
why work for someone else ?
I'll let you in on a secret to securing your future.

Real Estate - This is your largest purchase in life in most cases. rather then buying just 1 though.
You should try the buy and flip method.
You buy Property A for say 100,000 and try and flip for 110,000-120,000.
while property A is on market. you got a place to live for a couple months and you will have to pay the bank while waiting on it to sell so be realistic on the sale goal.
So let's say you make 10,000 on first property.. its better then working.
next time around you have more credit with the bank.
If you get stuck with a property you can rent it out and create a rental income to help cover some of the bank loan. (which builds equity) Equity is your friend. But you don't really want to hold rental propertys because taxes and upkeep will be your enemys as well as the loan vs rent deficit.

Key 1 : Don't work for someone else.. work for yourself. and if you have to work for someone else. then have your own plans for creating wealth going at same time.
Key 2 : Investing in education will always pay off in spades. Degree's will keep you from working in low paying jobs that have no future.
Key 3 : Real Estate is one of the best ways to accumulate long term wealth.
Key 4 Avoid Credit Card Debt. If you can't pay back the amount in 3 months. Those companys are created to keep the middle class poor. Revolving Credit is good. But don't let it consume you.
If Credit Card Debt is your problem. Quickly rotate it into a house equity loan and quit using them.

don't be afraid to invest. 10,000 in checking looks all well and good. but 10k in IRA or Mutual Fund will appreciate wealth, reduce tax burden and fight against inflation.
for investments don't be afraid to take down a profit. Until you sell it you have'nt made a profit.
Example if you have 100 shares of Microsoft and it splits. after a few months sell off 200 shares Don't be afraid to take a profit after they release XYZ product.. Now you can buy XYZ company for 100 shares and ABC company for 100 shares..
Being your own Mutual Fund is another great way to make money.
Think of the stockmarket as a craps table.
you put your money down on spots where you think you'll win.
Then you wait till you win. take a profit.. pick some more spots.
If you get a loser.. it was great value at 20 a share. at 10 a share its a even better value.. Double or Triple Down on it.

The secret isn't to be rich.. but to have a plan to be wealthy.

maybe your plan is to have a harem.. * hopefully they are'nt all working at Mc'ds or Sonic.*
i would'nt rely on others to solve your poverty problem.. free cheese is nice but having cash is better.

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RE: Low Income Dominants. - 9/8/2006 5:06:25 AM

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I can't believe this thread is still going.

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RE: Low Income Dominants. - 9/8/2006 6:12:07 AM

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zero69u2

You have a good start on your property buying and selling plans. But if you have any cash at all lets say 20K, or 20K of equity in some property. I can show you how to turn that 20K into 100K of buying power and you keep the 20K in the bank the whole time drawing interest, or your equity keeps growing even thou your useing that equity. Also the properties you buy you don't have to make bank payment till they sell. Do I have your attention.???????? P.S. You can start with any amount 10K, 20K, 30K even 5K

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RE: Low Income Dominants. - 9/8/2006 6:16:37 AM

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I can't believe this thread is still going.

You took the words right out of my head. *idly sits there, toeing the dead horse* Poor horsie.

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RE: Low Income Dominants. - 9/8/2006 7:48:21 AM

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Can we just call them LIDs instead of having to type out "low-income dominants" all the time?

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RE: Low Income Dominants. - 9/8/2006 8:41:14 AM

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ok then would one of you LIDs take a bomb and blow up this old old topic? If you need some coin to buy the materials just let me know

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RE: Low Income Dominants. - 9/8/2006 10:16:12 AM

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ok then would one of you LIDs take a bomb and blow up this old old topic? If you need some coin to buy the materials just let me know

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Instead of blowing it up posting you'd wish it would go away only feeds it. Those that keep complaining can choose to not open it and participate instead of whining you don't like it's still going any time you wish. For that matter why post at all as in the search engines you can find dang near every subject has already had a thread?
INTERACTION AND EXPRESSION of ideas and concepts being shared is why the post is still active. No believing something is still going is not stopping it from existing at all is it?

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RE: Low Income Dominants. - 9/8/2006 11:09:33 AM

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I would just LOVE a rich sub!!! anyone want to worship me financially???? Joking apart I have an aquaintance who has recently become a 'pro Domme' she has a section on her website for those who 'wish to worship financially'..... and they do, she has never met these people! why can't I find subs like that!!! My financial status is not great but I get by and my sub and I save for whatever equipment we would like to have.

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RE: Low Income Dominants. - 9/8/2006 5:03:47 PM

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Originally when I started this thread, I was thinking of one friend who had been about the fragmented local scene for a while. When illness and injury then a divorce stripped him of much of his wealth so he had to start again with a lower end income, he was almost over night ostracised by the crap community in Brisbane and their clique. He moved interstate and is well loved by his local community. Wy original issue was and is, should people on low incomes be shunned by a BDSM Communitry because they can not match the more affluent members. If so what is the point that a person, ever with many years of practical experience is tossed into the community refuse bin?

I think it is reasionable that if a seeker has a substantial or adequate income, that thgey will look for a pertner in a similar or better financial situation. (Too many workinmg ladies have had new partners bludging off them). However provided someone has a roof over their head, is managing to pay the bills , have a couple of meals a day and even afford meds iof required, and in otherwords shows fiscal responsibility, why shold they be shunted to one side. I know many who like me do at times have to perform a jugeling act inorder to buy food and pay bills even if that is at the cost of some meds. Point is with good communications with the creditors, they are usually able to work a payment arangement out.

It's something that applies to modern society as a whole, it's a Narcissistic thing: "guilt by association" - like they're afraid it will rub off - I've seen it before, a guy loses his job and suddenly all his freinds avoid him.

I think tends to be more prevelant during republican administrations, so much of their rhetoric and dogma revolves around "winners vs. losers", and constant denigration of the poor - it was very evident during the Reagan/Thatcher years, when as one BBC commentator put it, "they act as if if they treat the poor badly enough, they'll stop doing it" - ironic, for the "family values" administration, since most low income households are single income - if your wife stays home and takes care of the kids you're either extremly wealthy, or very poor. It's one reason Hispanics tend to be prominant among low income groups, the women typically stay home and take care of the kids, it's a macho thing.

Another irony for you: the incidence of "at risk behavior", unprotected and promiscuous sex, drinking, drug addiction, etc., all increase not decrease with socio-economic status - they just have daddies to bail them out.

Anyway, things repeat themselves every twenty years, I've heard, which makes sense if you figure the people in charge now are the people whose world view was formed twenty years ago - so this would be a repeat of the 80's - 60's style drug culture resurged in the 80's (cocaine), and in the Seventies there was a lot of 50's nostalgia, sock hops, etc., though I have noticed something of a couple of year delay factor, so I suspect it will get worse before it gets better.

One of the symptoms is a general intolerance and lack of compassion for the elderly, I knew several who were declared incompetent, their property disposed of, and them shunted away wholesale to nursing homes back in the Eighties, the mentally ill were turned out into the streets, etc., and I recall entire families, with young children, living in their cars.

"Tossed" is a good way of putting it.

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RE: Low Income Dominants. - 9/8/2006 5:29:43 PM

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It sounds like a lot of excuses are being made for an individual's right to choose what is appropriate for their lifestyle. Someone who desires a partner of means shouldn't be judged or shunned for seeking such. It is no different than excluding supposed "vanilla" persons because they don't fit into your particular kink. Of course the latter is okay because this is BDSM. But heaven forbid someone express a preference in finances or appearance. So much for tolerance.

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RE: Low Income Dominants. - 9/20/2006 7:59:33 PM

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Most interesting post & discussion. lets see I think money is the root of all Evil but, I like the Evil it brings to Me, that being said, when a submissive has a session with a pro domina such as Myself I do not request money but, rather I let the submissive offer to Me, what they have to offer be it money, a gift, work for Me, pampering Me ect.
Richness Is sometimes in the hearts & minds of Men & women and in the gifts they give to other's

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RE: Low Income Dominants. - 9/20/2006 9:31:02 PM

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I am not sure if I am biased against the lower class. Heck, I am two stones throw away from those days myself. I do know I have tended to date men who are accustomed to a little quality of life, if it could be called that..
I do know I am biased toward intelligence. I have dated guys who had little money but they knew stuff I didn't know. And If I needed that knowlege in that period, they were greatness to me.
People who know stuff can be dressed to the nines, or in a grungy tshirt with the smell of sweat on them and I would still drool, knowing that they can accomplish something I cannot.

Maybe people are not so much biased against a lack of money. Maybe they just gravitate to similar stock as themselves.
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RE: Low Income Dominants. - 9/20/2006 9:43:58 PM

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Tsks.......aren't slaves about making money for masters?

Wait,my bad................,that's REAl slaves, not ersatz ones.

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RE: Low Income Dominants. - 9/20/2006 10:42:22 PM

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ORIGINAL: IronBear

Have been watching a thread in the “Ask a Master” forum entitled “Work in BDSM relationships”. It has been interesting and informative. However there is an off shoot which I am curious what members think.

Too often we have the illusion that Doms have some wealth. Usually with good wages or salaries and perhaps even own their own businesses. I’ll agree that this is an ideal scenario for sub/slaves to enter into as it indicates the possibility of greater security which may be what they require especially if they have been through the mill financially. What about the other end of the spectrum then?

The Dominants with little income who live on the financial edge or have little money to play with?

Those who sometimes (usually dependent on bill time) have to scrimp and scrape to pay the bills and have money left over for food?

In their situation as long as they are not about to be made homeless, should they be cast aside by the majority of the lifestyle?

Do their character, experience and good name as a sensible and safe Dominant count for nothing?

In other words, is there a financial level in which we as a lifestyle turn our backs and try to forget that they exist?

What say you Dominants and what say you sub/slaves?

To this one it is not about them being rich. Are they compulsive spenders? Do they pay everything by credit card with no means to pay them off? or do they manage what money they do have to the best of their ability?

If they do not rack up unnecessary bills that they expect a submissive/slave to pay; and they are not looking for a submissive/slave to support them; then one would look beyond their income. Do they have integrity? Are they a good person? Those are only a couple of the things this one would look for.

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RE: Low Income Dominants. - 10/3/2006 11:15:20 PM

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How about this situation Iron Bear and others I had a Dom contact me and he stated he was on disability and had a very low income. I had put in my initial contact with him as I do to everyone which may be stupid but I had wanted all to know, I am not looking for a sugar daddy. I have an adequate income to support myself, and my own home is almost paid off. He was very excited and immediately started talking about how I could rent a different apt. sell the house and WE would have the money to spend on luxuries. He wanted to know if I had a car I said yes, but I was going to give it to my son he said no HE would take it and use it. I decided he only wanted a easy money fix and so told him it would not work out.

I have had several Doms state they like the idea that I have a really good retirement income, a house and 2 cars. In fact the guy I hope is going to be the Dom for me was also really happy. He did a kind of back and forth of I will pay for everything your money is yours to be put in savings, then to asking me how much exactly is your income. I do not mind in fact I think I should pay part of the expenses and in some way completely pay for certain things. My only worry is He has not contacted me hardly at all in fact only twice for about 3-5 min ea time. I have had no contact of any kind for 4-5 days, but know he has a business and I am trying to be reasonable. I am willing to give him at least another 2-3 weeks before I write him off. Any suggestions from anyone as to if I should change this attitude, or approach. I have sent a in dept email of questions, and called him as he recquested I do but no answer so left a voice mail.

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RE: Low Income Dominants. - 10/4/2006 12:08:54 AM

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You are not wrong to keep your money things private and separate. Sure, pretty much as you said, pay for your things, he pays for his. If you live together, you share a few bills, etc. Simple and just as in other relationships, after YEARS, things can change, but that is a different story.

Your other question about the Dom not talking to you much is, sadly, a common theme. Don't think you are going to find someone right off the bat. It doesn't work that way. Many have searched for years. This is a giant sifter and it takes time. Relax, get to know people, learn about things and someone will eventually come along.

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RE: Low Income Dominants. - 10/4/2006 12:16:03 AM

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well I guess money still matters as this thread is still going. I stick to scraping by and having a happy home then have 6 figures in the bank and being bitter about it all.

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RE: Low Income Dominants. - 10/4/2006 12:30:02 AM

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I think the question to ask that goes with this is why is someone not making alot of money. Is it because they are doing something they truely enjoy and do it for the personal fulfillment it gives them, or is it because they have blown opportunites or not followed through with them and are working fast food at minimum wage because they have put themselves in a position where they have no other choice.

I think that has a big impact on a persons daily outlook of things.

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