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Bush Approved Use of Insects in al-Qaeda Interrogations - 4/16/2009 6:00:12 PM

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• Bush approved use of insects in al-Qaida interrogations: memo

The Bush Administration approved the use of "insects placed in a confinement box" during the interrogation of top Al Qaeda official Abu Zubaydah, according to a 2002 document that President Obama declassified for release Thursday.

The legal memorandum for the CIA, prepared by Assistant Attorney General Jay Bybee, reviewed 10 enhanced techniques for interrogating Zubaydah, and determined that none of them constituted torture under U.S. criminal law.

The techniques were: attention grasp, walling (hitting a detainee against a flexible wall), facial hold, facial slap, cramped confinement, wall standing, stress positions, sleep deprivation, insects placed in a confinement box, and waterboarding.

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RE: Bush Approved Use of Insects in al-Qaeda Interrogat... - 4/16/2009 6:18:05 PM

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These guys never missed a chance to take the high road,did they?

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RE: Bush Approved Use of Insects in al-Qaeda Interrogat... - 4/16/2009 6:35:39 PM

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Where did they find these fucking lawyers?

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RE: Bush Approved Use of Insects in al-Qaeda Interrogat... - 4/16/2009 6:45:00 PM

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At this point I'd only be surprised if a "good cop" existed in this whole good cop/satanic cop routine they had going.

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RE: Bush Approved Use of Insects in al-Qaeda Interrogat... - 4/16/2009 6:47:20 PM

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Obviously, at least one of these bastards was familiar with 1984 . Just replace the rats with some creepy crawly and Bob's your uncle.

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RE: Bush Approved Use of Insects in al-Qaeda Interrogat... - 4/16/2009 6:52:38 PM

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Room 101

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RE: Bush Approved Use of Insects in al-Qaeda Interrogat... - 4/16/2009 7:02:31 PM

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Where did they find these fucking lawyers?

LawyersRus....how does one reverse the r on a keyboard?

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RE: Bush Approved Use of Insects in al-Qaeda Interrogat... - 4/16/2009 7:38:40 PM

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Attempting to give a damn......

sorry, can't give a damn.

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RE: Bush Approved Use of Insects in al-Qaeda Interrogat... - 4/16/2009 7:41:40 PM

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Attempting to give a damn......

sorry, can't give a damn.

No surprise. After all, that Constitution thing is just a silly piece of paper, right? Doesn't mean a thing to a Real American.

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RE: Bush Approved Use of Insects in al-Qaeda Interrogat... - 4/16/2009 7:45:20 PM

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Attempting to give a damn......

sorry, can't give a damn.

You know, I keep asking this question, will you give a damn when another country uses this as justification for treating our soldiers the same way, maybe your son, daughter, or grandchildren?

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RE: Bush Approved Use of Insects in al-Qaeda Interrogat... - 4/16/2009 7:50:11 PM

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Attempting to give a damn......

sorry, can't give a damn.

Changed my mind.

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RE: Bush Approved Use of Insects in al-Qaeda Interrogat... - 4/16/2009 8:08:19 PM

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Foreign nationals on foreign soil enjoy Constitutional rights now?

Since when.

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No surprise. After all, that Constitution thing is just a silly piece of paper, right? Doesn't mean a thing to a Real American.

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RE: Bush Approved Use of Insects in al-Qaeda Interrogat... - 4/16/2009 8:11:55 PM

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Foreign nationals on foreign soil enjoy Constitutional rights now?

Since when.

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No surprise. After all, that Constitution thing is just a silly piece of paper, right? Doesn't mean a thing to a Real American.

That was the whole game though wasn't it?

Keep them in Cuba where we can ignore our own laws.

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RE: Bush Approved Use of Insects in al-Qaeda Interrogat... - 4/16/2009 8:13:27 PM

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Name the last time we went to war with any nation that respected human rights. You can't do it, it never happened, not once - not ever.

So we're supposed to play by the so-called rules, we should have treated the eleven terrorists who had information about ongoing attacks as if they were royalty.

"Are you comfortable enough? Is there anything we can do to make you more comfortable?"

Bullshit.

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You know, I keep asking this question, will you give a damn when another country uses this as justification for treating our soldiers the same way, maybe your son, daughter, or grandchildren?

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RE: Bush Approved Use of Insects in al-Qaeda Interrogat... - 4/16/2009 8:15:45 PM

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It does.

Instead of claiming ignorance of the law,why not be honest and just admit you(and the rest of the neo-cons) don`t really care about the law.

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RE: Bush Approved Use of Insects in al-Qaeda Interrogat... - 4/16/2009 8:17:15 PM

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Attempting to give a damn......

sorry, can't give a damn.

That's pretty much my take on it too.

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RE: Bush Approved Use of Insects in al-Qaeda Interrogat... - 4/16/2009 8:21:17 PM

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Name the last time we went to war with any nation that respected human rights. You can't do it, it never happened, not once - not ever.

So we're supposed to play by the so-called rules, we should have treated the eleven terrorists who had information about ongoing attacks as if they were royalty.

"Are you comfortable enough? Is there anything we can do to make you more comfortable?"

Bullshit.

Well yes, I can.

The Germans actually treated our prisoners well in both world wars, as well as Italy in the second.

That's not the point though.

Do we want to maintain a moral high ground or do we want to stoop to the level of the terrorists?

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RE: Bush Approved Use of Insects in al-Qaeda Interrogat... - 4/16/2009 8:21:38 PM

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Not ignoring anything. Those terrorist planners and leaders weren't citizens, were not entitled to being read their Miranda rights (which didn't exist for them), they were not entitled to lawyers.

Under the rules of Geneva most of them were likely entitled only to a bullet to the head for being illegal combatants, which in my opinion terrorist planners such as they fully deserve.

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That was the whole game though wasn't it?

Keep them in Cuba where we can ignore our own laws.

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RE: Bush Approved Use of Insects in al-Qaeda Interrogat... - 4/16/2009 8:24:09 PM

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Sure you don`t care. No biggie as far as you`re concerned.

However,in the fight against terrorism(the real one,not the bush one),we need our allies and their cooperation to be affective.

But that too is something conservatives don`t really care about.

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RE: Bush Approved Use of Insects in al-Qaeda Interrogat... - 4/16/2009 8:26:22 PM

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Not ignoring anything. Those terrorist planners and leaders weren't citizens, were not entitled to being read their Miranda rights (which didn't exist for them), they were not entitled to lawyers.

Under the rules of Geneva most of them were likely entitled only to a bullet to the head for being illegal combatants, which in my opinion terrorist planners such as they fully deserve.

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That was the whole game though wasn't it?

Keep them in Cuba where we can ignore our own laws.

So you`re overruling the SCOTUS now? Impressive.

Stick to pretending you didn`t support bush.

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