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RE: HEALTH CARE - 8/10/2009 2:04:09 AM   
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White House Affirms Deal on Drug Cost

August 6, 2009

By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK

WASHINGTON — Pressed by industry lobbyists, White House officials on Wednesday assured drug makers that the administration stood by a behind-the-scenes deal to block any Congressional effort to extract cost savings from them beyond an agreed-upon $80 billion.

Drug industry lobbyists reacted with alarm this week to a House health care overhaul measure that would allow the government to negotiate drug prices and demand additional rebates from drug manufacturers.

In response, the industry successfully demanded that the White House explicitly acknowledge for the first time that it had committed to protect drug makers from bearing further costs in the overhaul. The Obama administration had never spelled out the details of the agreement.

“We were assured: ‘We need somebody to come in first. If you come in first, you will have a rock-solid deal,’ ” Billy Tauzin, the former Republican House member from Louisiana who now leads the pharmaceutical trade group, said Wednesday. “Who is ever going to go into a deal with the White House again if they don’t keep their word? You are just going to duke it out instead.”

A deputy White House chief of staff, Jim Messina, confirmed Mr. Tauzin’s account of the deal in an e-mail message on Wednesday night.

“The president encouraged this approach,” Mr. Messina wrote. “He wanted to bring all the parties to the table to discuss health insurance reform.”

The new attention to the agreement could prove embarrassing to the White House, which has sought to keep lobbyists at a distance, including by refusing to hire them to work in the administration.

The White House commitment to the deal with the drug industry may also irk some of the administration’s Congressional allies who have an eye on drug companies’ profits as they search for ways to pay for the $1 trillion cost of the health legislation.

But failing to publicly confirm Mr. Tauzin’s descriptions of the deal risked alienating a powerful industry ally currently helping to bankroll millions in television commercials in favor of Mr. Obama’s reforms.

The pressure from Mr. Tauzin to affirm the deal offers a window on the secretive and potentially risky game the Obama administration has played as it tries to line up support from industry groups typically hostile to government health care initiatives, even as their lobbyists pushed to influence the health measure for their benefit.

In an interview on Wednesday, Representative Raul M. Grijalva, the Arizona Democrat who is co-chairman of the House progressive caucus, called Mr. Tauzin’s comments “disturbing.”

“We have all been focused on the debate in Congress, but perhaps the deal has already been cut,” Mr. Grijalva said. “That would put us in the untenable position of trying to scuttle it.”

He added: “It is a pivotal issue not just about health care. Are industry groups going to be the ones at the table who get the first big piece of the pie and we just fight over the crust?”

The Obama administration has hailed its agreements with health care groups as evidence of broad support for the overhaul among industry “stakeholders,” including doctors, hospitals and insurers as well as drug companies.

But as the debate has heated up over the last two weeks, Mr. Obama and Congressional Democrats have signaled that they value some of its industry enemies-turned-friends more than others. Drug makers have been elevated to a seat of honor at the negotiating table, while insurers have been pushed away.

“To their credit, the pharmaceutical companies have already agreed to put up $80 billion” in pledged cost reductions, Mr. Obama reminded his listeners at a recent town-hall-style meeting in Bristol, Va. But the health insurance companies “need to be held accountable,” he said.

“We have a system that works well for the insurance industry, but it doesn’t always work for its customers,” he added, repeating a new refrain.

Administration officials and Democratic lawmakers say the growing divergence in tone toward the two groups reflects a combination of policy priorities and political calculus.

With polls showing that public doubts about the overhaul are mounting, Democrats are pointedly reminding voters what they may not like about their existing health coverage to help convince skeptics that they have something to gain.

“You don’t need a poll to tell you that people are paying more and more out of pocket and, if they have some serious illness, more than they can afford,” said David Axelrod, Mr. Obama’s senior adviser.

The insurers, however, have also stopped short of the drug makers in their willingness to cut a firm deal. The health insurers shook hands with Mr. Obama at the White House in March over their own package of concessions, including ending the exclusion of coverage for pre-existing ailments.

But unlike the drug companies, the insurers have not pledged specific cost cuts. And insurers have also steadfastly vowed to block Mr. Obama’s proposed government-sponsored insurance plan — the biggest sticking point in the Congressional negotiations.

The drug industry trade group, the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America, also opposes a public insurance plan. But its lobbyists acknowledge privately that they have no intention of fighting it, in part because their agreement with the White

House provides them other safeguards.

Mr. Tauzin said the administration had approached him to negotiate. “They wanted a big player to come in and set the bar for everybody else,” he said. He said the White House had directed him to negotiate with Senator Max Baucus, the business-friendly Montana Democrat who leads the Senate Finance Committee.

Mr. Tauzin said the White House had tracked the negotiations throughout, assenting to decisions to move away from ideas like the government negotiation of prices or the importation of cheaper drugs from Canada. The $80 billion in savings would be over a 10-year period. “80 billion is the max, no more or less,” he said. “Adding other stuff changes the deal.”

After reaching an agreement with Mr. Baucus, Mr. Tauzin said, he met twice at the White House with Rahm Emanuel, the White House chief of staff; Mr. Messina, his deputy; and Nancy-Ann DeParle, the aide overseeing the health care overhaul, to confirm the administration’s support for the terms.

“They blessed the deal,” Mr. Tauzin said. Speaker Nancy Pelosi said the House was not bound by any industry deals with the Senate or the White House.

But, Mr. Tauzin said, “as far we are concerned, that is a done deal.” He said, “It’s up to the White House and Senator Baucus to follow through.”

As for the administration’s recent break with the insurance industry, Mr. Tauzin said, “The insurers never made any deal.”

Sheryl Gay Stolberg contributed reporting.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/06/health/policy/06insure.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss

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RE: HEALTH CARE - 8/10/2009 10:30:12 AM   
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House leaders call noisy disruption of healthcare forums 'un-American' - Los Angeles Times

Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer say an 'ugly campaign is underway' in the dramatic protests. Republican Mitch McConnell says Democrats are just trying to change the subject.

By Mark Silva
5:05 AM PDT, August 10, 2009

Reporting from Washington -- House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, insisting at the start of a long and politically heated summer congressional recess that healthcare reform can be achieved this fall, today are calling the disruption of town-hall meetings by vocal protesters "simply un-American."

"We believe it is healthy for such a historic effort to be subject to so much scrutiny and debate," Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Hoyer (D-Md.) wrote in a USA Today opinion piece published today.

Healthcare debate gets uglier

"However, it is now evident that an ugly campaign is underway not merely to misrepresent the health insurance reform legislation, but to disrupt public meetings and prevent members of Congress and constituents from conducting a civil dialogue," the two leaders wrote. "These disruptions are occurring because opponents are afraid not just of differing views -- but of the facts themselves. Drowning out opposing views is simply un-American."

They point to a series of protests at congressional-district hearings held by members of Congress this summer, including one where the likeness of a Maryland congressman was hanged in effigy, one where the tombstone of a Texas congressman was displayed and meetings where protesters shouted down opponents with "Just say no."

With Democrats accusing Republicans of orchestrating dramatic protests against the healthcare reform that President Obama and Democratic allies in Congress are promoting, Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell suggested that Democrats should be worried.


"Look, I don't think either side ought to be trying to engage in disrupting meetings, either the Democratic side or the Republican side," McConnell (R-Ky..) said in an appearance on Fox News Sunday.

But "to demonize citizens who are -- you know, who are energetic about this -- strikes me as demonstrating a kind of weakness in your position," McConnell said. "In other words, you want to . . . change the subject. . . .

"Attacking citizens in our country for expressing their opinions about an issue of this magnitude may indicate some weakness in their position on the merits," McConnell said. "This is an enormously important subject. Of course American citizens are concerned about it. And many of them are upset about it."

Pelosi and Hoyer, calling the enactment of health insurance reform "a defining moment in our nation's history," point to plans that have passed through three House committees. Based on this work, they say, they will "produce one strong piece of legislation that the House will approve in September."

Senate leaders, in the meantime, are negotiating over competing plans in the Senate Finance Committee, in an attempt to fashion a bipartisan plan that the Senate can embrace. Obama, who initially sought votes this summer, has maintained that legislation can be completed "by the end of the year."

"As we draw close to finalizing -- and passing -- real health insurance reform," Obama said in his weekly radio and Internet address on Saturday, "the defenders of the status quo and political point-scorers in Washington are growing fiercer in their opposition. In recent days and weeks, some have been using misleading information to defeat what they know is the best chance of reform we have ever had...

"This isn't about politics," Obama said. "This about people's lives... That's why we must get this done - and why we will get this done - by the end of this year.

Insisting that reform will offer "more patient choice" and enable "every American who likes his or her current plan to keep it," Pelosi and Hoyer contend in their Op-ed essay that "it will free doctors and patients to make the health decisions that make the most sense, not the most profits for insurance companies.

"Reform will mean stability and peace of mind for the middle class," they write. "Never again will medical bills drive Americans into bankruptcy; never again will Americans be in danger of losing coverage if they lose their jobs or if they become sick; never again will insurance companies be allowed to deny patients coverage because of pre-existing conditions."

They are "confident that our principles of affordable, quality health care will stand up to any and all critics," the two leaders write. "Now," they conclude, "with Americans strongly supporting health insurance reform, with Congress reaching consensus on a plan, and with a president who ran and won on this specific promise of change -- America is closer than ever to this century-deferred goal."

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RE: HEALTH CARE - 8/10/2009 11:08:59 AM   
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Health care protests 'clearly being orchestrated,' senator says

"What I can tell you is that the White House is not trying to collect names of any Americans. What they're trying to do is post on some of these Web sites a rebuttal to some bad information," he said, pointing to rumors that provisions in the proposal might be used to fund abortions, cover undocumented immigrants or raid Medicare funds. "There's so much bad information out there, you can understand the effort to at least let people hear both sides of the story."

Both Durbin and Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, signaled the precarious status of any "public option" -- a possible government-run insurance plan -- in the final version of any health care legislation. Cornyn called the idea a deal-breaker. Durbin repeated a reluctant willingness to sacrifice the idea to assure passage of a bill. Watch Durbin, Cornyn discuss situation »

The idea is not considered likely to be included in the final Senate version of the bill, although a modified public option remains in the House version of the legislation.

Cornyn said one possible administration proposal might have GOP support: an extension of unemployment benefits.

"I think we need to take a close look at that. We don't want to provide a disincentive to work, but where people are out of work and they need some help, sure. We're open to that," he said.

President Obama calls reforming health care the centerpiece of his current domestic platform.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/09/health.care/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

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RE: HEALTH CARE - 8/10/2009 12:49:02 PM   
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Durbin repeated a reluctant willingness to sacrifice the idea to assure passage of a bill.
If there is no public option, then what use is the bill?

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RE: HEALTH CARE - 8/10/2009 1:16:18 PM   
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Op-Ed Columnist
Is Obama Punking Us?

By FRANK RICH
Published: August 8, 2009

“AUGUST is a challenging time to be president,” said Andrew Card, the former Bush White House chief of staff, as he offered unsolicited advice to his successors in a television interview last week. �I think you have to expect the unexpected.

He should know. Thursday was the eighth anniversary of “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.,” the President’s Daily Brief that his boss ignored while on vacation in Crawford. Aug. 29 marks the fourth anniversary of Hurricane Katrina’s strike on the Louisiana coast, which his boss also ignored while on vacation in Crawford.

So do have a blast in Martha’s Vineyard, President Obama.

Even as we wait for some unexpected disaster to strike, Beltway omens for the current White House are grim. Obama�s poll numbers are approaching free fall, we are told. If he fails on health care, he’s toast. Indeed, many of the bloviators who spot a fatal swoon in the Obama presidency are the same doomsayers who in August 2008 were predicting his Election Day defeat because he couldn’t “close the deal” and clear the 50 percent mark in matchups with John McCain.

Here are two not very daring predictions: Obama will get some kind of health care reform done come fall. His poll numbers will not crater any time soon.

Yet there is real reason for longer-term worry in the form of a persistent, anecdotal drift toward disillusionment among some of the president’s supporters. And not merely those on the left. This concern was perhaps best articulated by an Obama voter, a real estate agent in Virginia,
featured on the front page of The Washington Post last week.

“Nothing’s changed for the common guy,” she said. “I feel like I’ve been punked.” She cited in particular the billions of dollars in bailouts given to banks that still “act like they’re broke.”

But this mood isn’t just about the banks, Public Enemy No. 1. What the Great Recession has crystallized is a larger syndrome that Obama tapped into during the campaign. It’s the sinking sensation that the American game is rigged — that, as the president typically put it a month after his inauguration, the system is in hock to “the interests of powerful lobbyists or the wealthiest few” who have “run Washington far too long.” He promised to smite them.

No president can't do that alone, let alone in six months. To make Obama’s goal more quixotic, the ailment that he diagnosed is far bigger than Washington and often beyond politics’ domain. What disturbs Americans of all ideological persuasions is the fear that almost everything, not just government, is fixed or manipulated by some powerful hidden hand, from commercial transactions as trivial as the sales of prime concert tickets to cultural forces as pervasive as the news media.

It’s a cynicism confirmed almost daily by events. Last week Brian Stelter of The Times reported that the corporate bosses of MSNBC and Fox News, Jeffrey Immelt of General Electric and Rupert Murdoch of News Corporation, had sanctioned their lieutenants to broker what a G.E. spokesman called a new “level of civility” between their brawling cable stars, Keith Olbermann and Bill O’Reilly.

A Fox spokesman later confirmed to Howard Kurtz of The Post that “there was an agreement” at least at the corporate level. Olbermann said he was a “party to no deal,” and in any event what looked like a temporary truce ended after The Times article was published. But the whole scrape only fed legitimate suspicions on the right and left alike that even their loudest public voices can be silenced if the business interests of the real American elite decree it.

You might wonder whether networks could some day cut out the middlemen — anchors — and just put covert lobbyists and publicists on the air to deliver the news.

Actually, that has already happened. The most notorious example was the flock of retired military officers who served as television “news analysts” during the Iraq war while clandestinely lobbying for defense contractors eager to sell their costly wares to the Pentagon.

The revelation of that scandal did not end the practice. Last week MSNBC had to apologize for deploying the former Newsweek writer Richard Wolffe as a substitute host for Olbermann without mentioning his new career as a corporate flack. Wolffe might still be anchoring on MSNBC if the blogger Glenn Greenwald hadn�t called attention to his day job.

MSNBC assured its viewers that there were no conflicts of interest, but we must take that on faith, since we still don’t know which clients Wolffe represents as a senior strategist for his firm, Public Strategies, whose chief executive is the former Bush White House
spin artist, Dan Bartlett.

Let’s presume that Wolffe’s clients do not include the corporate interests with billions at stake in MSNBC and Washington’s Topic A, the health care debate. If so, he’s about the only player in the political-corporate culture who’s not riding that gravy train.

As Democrats have pointed out, the angry hecklers disrupting town-hall meetings convened by members of Congress are not always ordinary
citizens engaging in spontaneous grass-roots protests or even G.O.P. operatives, but proxies for corporate lobbyists.

One group facilitating the screamers is FreedomWorks, which is run by the former Congressman Dick Armey, now a lobbyist at the DLA Piper law firm. Medicines Company, a global pharmaceutical business, has paid DLA Piper more than $6 million in lobbying fees in the five years Armey has worked there.

But the Democratic members of Congress those hecklers assailed can hardly claim the moral high ground. Their ties to health care interests are merely more discreet and insidious.

As Congressional Quarterly reported last week, industry groups contributed almost $1.8 million in the first six months of 2009 alone to the 18 House members of both parties supervising health care reform, Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer among them.

Then there are the 52 conservative Blue Dog Democrats, who have balked at the public option for health insurance. Their cash intake from insurers and drug companies outpaces their Democratic peers by an average of 25 percent, according to The Post. And let’s not forget the Democratic Senate Campaign Committee, which has raked in nearly $500,000 from a single doctor-owned hospital in McAllen, Tex. — the very one that Obama has cited as a symbol of runaway medical costs ever since it was profiled in The New Yorker this spring.

In this maze of powerful moneyed interests, it’s not clear who any American in either party should or could root for. The bipartisan nature of the beast can be encapsulated by the remarkable progress of Billy Tauzin, the former Louisiana congressman. Tauzin was a founding member of the Blue Dog Democrats in 1994.

A year later, he bolted to the Republicans. Now he is chief of PhRMA, the biggest pharmaceutical trade group. In the 2008 campaign, Obama ran a television ad pillorying Tauzin for his role in preventing Medicare from negotiating for lower drug prices.
Last week The Los Angeles Times reported — and The New York Times confirmed — that Tauzin, an active player in White House health care negotiations, had secured a behind-closed-doors flip-flop, enlisting the administration to push for continued protection of drug prices.

Now we know why the president has ducked his campaign pledge to broadcast such negotiations on C-Span.

The making of legislative sausage is never pretty. The White House has to give to get. But the cynicism being whipped up among voters is justified. Unlike Hillary Clinton, whose chief presidential campaign strategist unapologetically did double duty as a high-powered corporate flack, Obama promised change we could actually believe in.

His first questionable post-victory step was to assemble an old boys’ club of Robert Rubin protégés and Goldman-Citi alumni as the White House economic team, including a Treasury secretary, Timothy Geithner, who failed in his watchdog role at the New York Fed as Wall Street’s latest bubble first inflated and then burst. The questions about Geithner�s role in adjudicating the subsequent bailouts aren�t going away, and neither is the angry public sense that the fix is still in. We just learned that nine of those bailed-out banks — which in total received $175 billion of taxpayers’ money, but as yet have repaid only $50 billion — are awarding a total of $32.6 billion in bonuses for 2009.
It’s in this context that Obama can’t afford a defeat on health care. A bill will pass in a Democrat-controlled Congress. What matters is what’s in it. The final result will be a CAT scan of those powerful Washington interests he campaigned against, revealing which have been removed from the body politic (or at least reduced) and which continue to metastasize.

The Wall Street regulatory reform package Obama pushes through, or doesn’t, may render even more of a verdict on his success in changing the system he sought the White House to reform.

The best political news for the president remains the Republicans. It’s a measure of how out of touch G.O.P. leaders like Mitch McConnell and John Boehner are that they keep trying to scare voters by calling Obama a socialist.

They have it backward. The larger fear is that Obama might be just another corporatist, punking voters much as the Republicans do when they claim to be all for the common guy. If anything, the most unexpected — and challenging — event that could rock the White House this August would be if the opposition actually woke up.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/09/opinion/09rich.html?_r=5&partner=rss&emc=rss

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RE: HEALTH CARE - 8/10/2009 1:24:37 PM   
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If there is no public option more people will be covered but nothing will be done to contain costs. So expect the deficit to balloon. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Democrats will get it through the Senate with a public option using reconciliation if necessary. I think that means 51 votes.

Nobody however really knows what's going to happen, not even Obama.

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RE: HEALTH CARE - 8/10/2009 1:32:25 PM   
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Link Between Nitrate Levels and Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s and Diabetes

Researchers have found a substantial link between increased levels of nitrates in our environment and food with increased deaths from diseases, including Alzheimer’s, diabetes mellitus and Parkinson’s.

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RE: HEALTH CARE - 8/10/2009 2:01:35 PM   
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Health Insurance / Medical Insurance News

ACLJ Calls On President Obama To Repudiate White House Comments Calling On Americans To "Flag" And Report "Fishy" Comments Opposing Health Care Plan
The American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ), focusing on constitutional law, today called on President Obama to repudiate comments made by his Director of New Media - comments that call on Americans to report those who make "fishy" statements about health care.09 Aug 2009


Congressman's Visit To The American Legion Proves Beneficial To Veterans
During a recent visit to The American Legion headquarters here, U.S. Rep. Bob Filner, D-Calif., said that the maintenance of high quality health care for veterans is at the very top of his list of priorities.09 Aug 2009

Patients Share Personal Challenges, Frustrations With Current Health Care System Due To Pre-Existing Conditions, Out Of Pocket Costs, US
Volunteer advocates from the National Patient Advocate Foundation who live in New York's 2nd District attended a community gathering arranged by Congressman Steve Israel to discuss challenges and solutions to America's health care system, among other issues.

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RE: HEALTH CARE - 8/10/2009 4:48:42 PM   
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Anti-Health Care Reform Tea Partiers Feeding Info To Lou Dobbs And "Friends at FOX News"
By Brian Beutler - August 6, 2009, 3:12PM

If you had any doubt about where conservative cable news hosts were getting their information on health care, and the health care opposition movement, listen to this fulsome shout outs they get from their buddies in the tea party movement.

It's a strategy and organizing call set up by the Recess Rally campaign, to get activists on the same page for a nationwide, August 22 rally. And at about minute 37, call organizer Michael Patrick Leahy (of #tcot fame) pulls the cat out of the bag and holds it up for everybody to see.

"Lou Dobbs is very much in the health care protest corner. In the tea party corner," Leahy says.

Look to Lou Dobbs. Also our friends at Fox News will cover this. So follow up with the Glenn Becks and the Neal Cavutos and the Sean Hannitys and Greta van Sustern. Just keep giving them information.

Coincidentally on those hosts' programs, you can hear all about the grass roots anger about Democrats' health care plans.

These calls occur biweekly and enjoy the participation of hundreds of organizers. As you'd expect, the hosts warn of the "craziness of the socialism in the health care bill"--a message which gets filtered down to the people who protest health care reform in the field.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/08/anti-health-care-reform-tea-partiers-feeding-info-to-lou-dobbs-and-friends-at-fox-news.php

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RE: HEALTH CARE - 8/10/2009 10:46:18 PM   
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Yes,look how well the govement is doing with social security and medicare.People are rite to wory about their kinds of reform.If they have nothing to hide,why is the health care bill not made bublic knolodge?

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RE: HEALTH CARE - 8/10/2009 10:56:46 PM   
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If they have nothing to hide,why is the health care bill not made bublic knolodge?
Assuming "bublic knolodge" means public knowledge, it is. It is available online.

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RE: HEALTH CARE - 8/11/2009 8:33:30 AM   
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Yes,look how well the govement is doing with social security and medicare.People are rite to wory about their kinds of reform.If they have nothing to hide,why is the health care bill not made bublic knolodge?


Both are successful programs. More to the point, they exist at all, in place of nothing.

And both will be successful for years and years and years if (1) we make a few adjustments to SS to ensure its long term viability in the face of changing demographics, and (2) we do something about soaring health care costs to help control the burgeoning costs of medicare and medicaid.

Getting affordable, routine health care for all citizens will help tremendously with #2, lowering what we spend on catastrophic emergency care for conditions that could have been prevented. We're the only industrial nation that doesn't do so, and we have the highest costs. It's a common sense issue.

The rest of your statement is just a silly rant.

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RE: HEALTH CARE - 8/11/2009 9:34:43 AM   
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White House fires back at health care fictions

President Barack Obama fought back Monday against "scare tactics" aimed at derailing his drive to remake US health care, unleashing a battle-tested strategy adapted from his 2008 White House run.

Mon Aug 10, 11:02 am ET
WASHINGTON (AFP) – President Barack Obama fought back Monday against "scare tactics" aimed at derailing his drive to remake US health care, unleashing a battle-tested strategy adapted from his 2008 White House run.

Obama unveiled a new Internet site, www.whitehouse.gov/RealityCheck, inspired by his campaign's fightthesmears.com site, which countered rumors like the debunked but persistent claim that he was not born in the United States.

The move came as his Democratic allies alleged an orchestrated campaign of disinformation, including plots to disrupt lawmakers' "town hall" discussions on health care at home during the Congress's month-long August break.

"Drowning out opposing views is simply un-American. Drowning out the facts is how we failed at this task for decades," Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer wrote in USA Today.

Their comments came one day after Republican Senator Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, during an appearance on Fox News Channel, accused Democrats of trying "to demonize citizens who are energetic about this."

In an email message to supporters, senior White House adviser David Axelrod trumpeted the new site's "information and a number of online tools you can use to spread the truth among your family, friends and other social networks."

The website allows users to email every video and fact sheet, receive updates via social media like the Twitter micro-blogging site and Facebook, and tell the White House "what myths we should address next."

"Rumors and scare tactics have only increased as more people engage with the issue.

Given a lot of the outrageous claims floating around, it's time to make sure everyone knows the facts about the security and stability you get with health insurance reform," said Axelrod.

In one video, Obama domestic policy adviser Melody Barnes takes aim at claims that the sweeping overhaul includes a plan to drive the elderly into forced euthanasia.

The video includes remarks by Republican Representative Virginia Foxx that the Democratic plan could "put seniors in a position of being put to death by their government" -- a charge frequently echoed among foes of the legislation.

From behind the desk of her West Wing office, Barnes directs viewers to the relevant section of the bill, says it would allow people to get advice on such issues as "living wills," and underlines there is "nothing mandatory."

The battle over health care was not expected to ease when lawmakers return in September, with Democrats battling to meet Obama's deadline of enacting an overhaul by the end of the year.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090810/ts_alt_afp/uspoliticshealthwhouse_20090810150301

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RE: HEALTH CARE - 8/11/2009 2:57:46 PM   
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Obama in‘03 (Uncut): I’d Like to See a‘Single Payer Health Care Plan’

“I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care program. I see no reason why the United States of America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world, spending 14 percent of its Gross National Product on health care cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody.

And that’s what Jim is talking about when he says everybody in, nobody out. A single payer health care plan, a universal health care plan.

And that’s what I’d like to see. But as all of you know, we may not get there immediately. Because first we have to take back the White House, we have to take back the Senate, and we have to take back the House.”


http://www.breitbart.tv/obama-in-03-id-like-to-see-a-single-payer-health-care-plan/

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RE: HEALTH CARE - 8/11/2009 3:22:26 PM   
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Brain,

Seriously, get a blog.


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RE: HEALTH CARE - 8/11/2009 3:35:12 PM   
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Published on Thursday, August 6, 2009 by CommonDreams.org

Corporate Greed Vs People's Health in America

by Cesar Chelala

As the health care discussion has gathered momentum in the U.S., there is increasing evidence of the role played by corporations and politicians to hinder provision of adequate health care to the majority of Americans. The result is that the U.S. has one of the worst health care systems among industrialized nations.

Studies carried out by the World Health Organization and the Commonwealth Fund in New York show that the U.S. health care system overall performance ranked 37th among the countries included in their analysis.

The Commonwealth Fund study, released in 2007, entitled "Mirror, Mirror on the Wall: An International Update on the Comparative Performance of American Health Care," found that not only is the U.S. health care system the most expensive in the world, but comes in dead last in almost any measure of performance.

The Commonwealth study compared the health system in the U.S. and that of Australia, Canada, Germany, New Zealand and the United Kingdom.

Although the most evident way in which the United States differs from the other countries is in the absence of universal coverage, the U.S. is also last in terms of access, patient safety, efficiency and equity.

Compared to the other countries studied, the U.S. lags behind in the adoption of information technology and other national policies that promote quality improvement.

In countries such as New Zealand, Germany and the United Kingdom, up-to-date information systems enhance physicians' ability to monitor chronic conditions and medication use.

At the same time, the U.S. pays a higher percentage of health dollars for administration than any other nation.

The U.S. is behind all industrialized nations in terms of health coverage.

Almost 47 million Americans lack health insurance coverage, which represents more people than the entire population of Canada.

As pointed out by Wendell Potter, a former health insurance executive, if this number includes all those that are underinsured, that represents more people than those living in the United Kingdom.

According to the Children's Health Fund, 9 million children are uninsured in the U.S., while another 23.7 million -nearly 30 percent of the nation's children- lack regular access to health care.

There are several ways corporations pressure politicians not to support health care plans that benefit the majority of the population. As Wendell Potter stated during an interview with Bill Moyers, "By running ads, commercials in your home district when you are running for reelection, not contributing to your campaigns again, or contributing to your competitor..."

In addition, Potter described how a Republican strategist suggested the use of phrases such as "government takeover," "delayed care is denied care," "consequences of rationing," "bureaucrats, not doctors prescribing medicine," which despite being evidently untruthful were faithfully parroted by politicians opposing health care for all.

Through several mechanisms insurance companies deny coverage to people so as to increase their profits.

As Potter explained in a testimony to the U.S. Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation last June, among those mechanisms are ‘rescission' and ‘dumping'.

If a sick policy holder omits a minor illness or a pre-existing condition when applying for coverage the insurance company use this as a justification to cancel (rescind) the policy.

In addition, insurance companies dump those businesses whose employees' medical claims exceed what insurance underwriters estimated.

What makes the situation particularly serious is that once an insurer dumps a business, that business has no other viable options because of widespread industry consolidation.

Lack of coverage seriously affects the health of the uninsured because they receive less preventive care, are diagnosed at a later disease stage, tend to receive less quality care and have higher mortality rates than those insured.

This is a crucial moment to solve one of the most savage inequities conspiring against people's health and well being in America.

Both individuals and businesses, particularly small businesses, are at the mercy of powerful corporations' interests.

Unless those interests are curbed, people's health will continue to be a victim of corporations' predatory appetite.
Cesar Chelala, MD, PhD, is a public health consultant for several international agencies.

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/08/06-8

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RE: HEALTH CARE - 8/11/2009 4:03:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Brain,

Seriously, get a blog.




It's still a hot topic and other people started their own variations on this topic which is fine but I really wanted a health care bill passed this summer because I know it's the right thing to do for many many reasons.

People are being frightened with scare tactics to block reform. People say they don't
want government running healthcare but Medicare is a government program and people like it.

Unfortunately, it has not passed before the summer recess and I was hoping it would be over by now. I don't think people read blogs anymore. I read 95% of blogs are not active now.

I don't think the right wants to debate it with me any more because I usually respond with facts and provide the links with them.

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RE: HEALTH CARE - 8/11/2009 4:20:19 PM   
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Links, Brain, would be preferable to pages and pages of pasted articles.

It doesn't persuade--it just blurs before the reader.

In fact, you could do one post with all the links. Hell, add short descriptions. Go nuts.

Just saying. It would prove far more effective.


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RE: HEALTH CARE - 8/11/2009 8:49:56 PM   
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I wasn't asking about other countries (which I'm sure have nearly perfect governments and health care systems), I was asking about the United States government, which has become so corrupt and its members so greedy that a lot of people are speculating about America's coming total collapse.
This basic argument (that US politicians can't be trusted to do what politicians in other countries do) has come up more than a few times. As a result I have done some thinking on the causes of this corruption and venality.

First and foremost is the term of a Representative, 2 years, it is to short. As a result of this short term, a Rep. is no sooner elected than he/she must immediately begin worrying about the next election. This has two effects:

1) They are afraid to do anything that might not sit well back home, they avoid controversy and try to annoy nobody. This leads to political considerations being paramount over all others. They will always consider how it will play back home when they consider anything,and will never do anything that will get them bad press. If their term was longer,they would be more willing to do the right thing by their constituents because there would be more time for any temporary shitstorm to blow over and for the policy to prove itself. This leads to political cowardice and to pork-barrel programs to effectively buy the voters' support.

2) And this is the real kicker, they are continuously seeking funds for the next election. This is where the lobbyists come in. By providing the desired funds in exchange for the Rep's vote, they exert undue influence over the House. They are always handy with a bag of cash, and the temptation to take it is to much for most of them (not because they are inherently weak, but because their need for the funds to get reelected is so great. Once they have been bought,well then the next purchase comes easier,and then the next, and so on. Eventually they are offered money under the table, for themselves and not their campaign funds, and since they have accustomed themselves to taking the lobbyists' money, many will give in and take the bribe. Once that happens, then they are owned, because they can effectively be blackmailed if they cause any trouble.

But what about the Senate,you say, they have 6 year terms and are just as corrupt. Well yes they are, because the same lobbyists are there with their bags of cash, and the Senators can see their compatriots in the House getting their fat cheques,so they are tempted themselves to get their piece of the action. They too have a reelection campaign to finance,and so the process goes on.

The Primary system used to determine the candidates for President works the same way. The process is so lengthy and expensive that the various candidates are subject to tremendous pressures that lead them to the lobbyists with cap in hand.

All these pressures exist in other countries, but not to the same degree. The longer terms of the elected representatives reduces the pressure enormously. As well, in most Parliamentary systems, the Party does the real fund raising, and apportions the money out to the Party's candidates. Yes individual candidates raise money as well, but they do not have the major responsibility that the US politicians do as far as funding their campaigns go.

Thus to my eye the problem is squarely on K Street, but it is the system itself that grants the lobbyists their power. What can be done about it? Damned if I know, these are just my ideas on why there seems to be so much more corruption in the US government as compared to others. There is a whole climate and culture of buying votes. Bills are rarely actually debated in Congress anymore, instead they are hashed out in committee, with back-room deals and payments (either in cash or in kind), the whole you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours process.




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