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ORIGINAL: sweetsub1957

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ORIGINAL: Dastan

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ORIGINAL: XYisInferior

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ORIGINAL: Dastan

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ORIGINAL: XYisInferior

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ORIGINAL: Dastan

To not dwell on it, let's say I am lucky it ended a friendship and didn't end me in jail. I just discovered that i am uncapable of seeing women submit to men.

Abeit simple, my suggestions are to:

a. remove yourself from situations where you'll see things that upset you; and

b. work on keeping an open mind about other lifestyles, beliefs, D/s preferences, and so on.

There is nothing worth getting violent about what you see and experience, so long as the individuals are consensually involved.

Well, yeah, i understand that...but in my defewnse, regarding item "b"....I heard the screams, the words and I didn't know it was a scene and that it was the way she wanted it, so I just busted the door and went a little overboard. I see a girl tied to the bed, a guy in casual clothing without any toys in the room and his dick handing out and I think "rape" if I see the girl in tears sporting some marks and some welts, scratches and bruises.

I would say your reaction to protect and defend was a noble one. Since you didn't understand the "scene" was consensual, you reacted as most men would, I'd suspect. That is rather different from having a problem with seeing Women submitting to men consensually, don't you think?

I consider that there's a problem because it does make me worry and disgusts me to see such plays. I just don't get it why a man gets off on making a girl kneel and kiss his feet and be his footstool or fetch the slippers like a dog or so, let alone use violence and I think that the reaction was disproportionate because of how the scene impressed me, whjich wouldn't be that extreme if it had not been me. I have been trained to subdue an attacker much faster and easier without such brutality, but they had to pull me away from him after I reduced him, and that's why i think there's a problem fueling it.

Well the deal is, OP, if you don't happen to like the way a scene impresses you, LOOK AWAY before you have to get involved with interrupting it.  I can tell you right now that, if you were to interrupt a situation between Sir & I, I would be extremely pissed off....at YOU.  About that time I would be acting very UNsubmissive toward you and chewing you out.  I happen to enjoy being submissive to my Man.  At times I find it hard to see what others do, but to each their own.  As long as it's not against the law, I say "count me out, but go for it if you want to."  Respect others' right to indulge their kinks that are different than yours withOUT judging them.  An open mind is a good thing.  If you are "uncapable of seeing women submit to men," i will say once again, JUST DON'T LOOK.  TURN AWAY.  If it's a consensual situation, it's NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS and your getting involved is unwanted meddling and interference.....unwanted by BOTH parties involved.  I just don't understand why, after six pages, YOU still don't "get it."

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ORIGINAL: Loki45

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ORIGINAL: Dastan
I consider that there's a problem because it does make me worry and disgusts me to see such plays. I just don't get it why a man gets off on making a girl kneel and kiss his feet and be his footstool or fetch the slippers like a dog or so, let alone use violence and I think that the reaction was disproportionate because of how the scene impressed me, whjich wouldn't be that extreme if it had not been me. I have been trained to subdue an attacker much faster and easier without such brutality, but they had to pull me away from him after I reduced him, and that's why i think there's a problem fueling it.

After 6 pages and you still not 'getting it,' I would suggest you leave the lifestyle. Then you won't be at any parties where you can interrupt a scene and it won't be a 'problem' for you to see.

I think you haven't yet started to get it yourself Loki..but I guess it is wise to forgive and forget ignorance or at least an omission. And you certainly didn't seem to read well into my words, i suggest you leave the thread if you can't follow it.

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[It seems you didn't follow the thread to notice it.

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Ignorance!?  Oh c'mon now.  Have you ever stopped to think that maybe the female submissives in question in scenes like that like to be treated that way?  What makes that so different than the "lowly worm" mentality of some male submissives.....who enjoy being treated like lowly worm nothings?  To each their own.  I can't imagine wanting to be treated like a lowly worm, but so what?  If they want to be, I say go right ahead and suck it up, man.  Their kinks are not my business & those treat-me-like-a-dog, boot-licking females' kinks are not yours or mine either.

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Lowly worm? Hmm... that sounds...rather nice. :) Err, maybe I shouldn't be admitting to that! :D Actually I don't have the plumbing to be a lowly worm. But I do my kegels regularly so guess I could be a lowly sea anenome! :p

I can't believe this thread is still going on. But I'm glad that male subs who are so sexist and disrespectful of women's choices tend to be in the minority. You know, with the way they objectify women and see them as vessels to fulfill only THEIR desires (and never thinking of the woman's), these guys must make really terrible subs.

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After 6 pages and you still not 'getting it,' I would suggest you leave the lifestyle. Then you won't be at any parties where you can interrupt a scene and it won't be a 'problem' for you to see.

I think you haven't yet started to get it yourself Loki..but I guess it is wise to forgive and forget ignorance or at least an omission. And you certainly didn't seem to read well into my words, i suggest you leave the thread if you can't follow it.

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ORIGINAL: Lashra

I admit when I was much younger I had a really hard time understanding why a woman would want to be submissive to a man. I was Dominant and being submissive was so foreign to me that I simply could not understand it. As I have aged I have found some wisdom. This is what I have learned over the years and I will share it with you.

Everyone is an individual we do not always fit into the roles that society has laid before us as "normal". If I am happy with myself being Dominant then why should I judge another woman for being submissive. As long as we both are happy following our own paths then no one should have a problem with it.

When it comes down to it you have a life, live it on your own terms, be happy and just do not care what other people think. That is how I live and I am very happy with myself, my family and my relationship with my sub.

~Lashra

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Dastan, you specifically said earlier that you were physically violent with the Dominant man in your OP. You've also said since that watching women submit makes you feel violent toward their partners. If you are having that much struggle controlling yourself, I think it's a bad idea for you to attend public playparties or otherwise deliberately be around public BDSM play. That kind of behaviour, or getting angry and with that body language, even if you don't follow through, is likely to get you kicked out.

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After 6 pages and you still not 'getting it,' I would suggest you leave the lifestyle. Then you won't be at any parties where you can interrupt a scene and it won't be a 'problem' for you to see.

I think you haven't yet started to get it yourself Loki..but I guess it is wise to forgive and forget ignorance or at least an omission. And you certainly didn't seem to read well into my words, i suggest you leave the thread if you can't follow it.

Actually to me this is almost good advice, you do not have to leave the 'lifestyle' but maybe leave the 'scene' you do not have to witness this if it worries you so much, and to be fair if your attitude is as pronounced in real life as it is on here you could deeply offend people as well as getting yourself into trouble. My suggestion is as Loki said, avoid these environments as much as possible.