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RE: Birth Control for Dummies - 7/30/2009 3:58:36 PM

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Mirena I believe is the name of the IUD , their commercials say you have to be a woman over 30 or have had kids, or they won't prescribe you their form of IUD. And I have heard other recommendations that if you're going to get an IUD It's best to get it if you've already had kids.

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If i had to think about it now (thankfully im beginning my journey to the other end of the spectrum) i would go with an IUD. no muss, no fuss...

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RE: Birth Control for Dummies - 7/30/2009 4:08:23 PM

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i was on the pill about 23-24 years ago for approx. 5 years. i have regrets about taking them, but i was also a smoker, and overweight....

Do you mind me asking what regrets you had? I took them off and on for 10 years when i was younger to regulate my periods. I've been researching BC, too, but as a smoker, over 30, with a few blot clots.... um, yeah. No pill for me. And because my periods are debilitating, that seems to rule out the rest as they can cause even worse cramping.

I hope to quit smoking soon, but with the history of blood clots, i think it may still rule out many of my options.

Thanks for starting this thread, Anne, and for everyone's responses.

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RE: Birth Control for Dummies - 7/30/2009 4:08:46 PM

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I used the pill and didn't have any problems with it.
I also used the IUD - didn't hurt going in, no problems with cramping - my only problem was eventually it fell out - literally.
I ended up with a hysterectomy - best form of bc ever!! Of course you can only access it if you have had your kids and have a medical reason for it. *sigh* got to love that enterocele!

Thanks kiwi!

Can I ask if you had already given birth when they gave your the IUD? Did you use the copper or the hormone one?

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RE: Birth Control for Dummies - 7/30/2009 4:11:41 PM

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Mirena I believe is the name of the IUD , their commercials say you have to be a woman over 30 or have had kids, or they won't prescribe you their form of IUD. And I have heard other recommendations that if you're going to get an IUD It's best to get it if you've already had kids.
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If i had to think about it now (thankfully im beginning my journey to the other end of the spectrum) i would go with an IUD. no muss, no fuss...

tfb,
I have heard that about the Mirena as well...but that is actually the IUD with the hormones... I wonder if you have ever heard anything about the copper one? It's called ParaGard....?

The PP website says that the IUD could fall out if you haven't had kids... it also says it could (in rare cases) come unlodged and pierce through your uterus, causing problems that would need eventual surgery. Yikes!

Has anyone ever heard of that happening??

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RE: Birth Control for Dummies - 7/30/2009 4:19:47 PM

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i was on the pill about 23-24 years ago for approx. 5 years. i have regrets about taking them, but i was also a smoker, and overweight....

Do you mind me asking what regrets you had? I took them off and on for 10 years when i was younger to regulate my periods. I've been researching BC, too, but as a smoker, over 30, with a few blot clots.... um, yeah. No pill for me. And because my periods are debilitating, that seems to rule out the rest as they can cause even worse cramping.

I hope to quit smoking soon, but with the history of blood clots, i think it may still rule out many of my options.

Thanks for starting this thread, Anne, and for everyone's responses.

xiam,

Thanks for the response. I find it very hard to decide what is best. I know that it will vary from person to person... but I would rather not spend three to six months bleeding while I figure out that Depo isn't for me... LOL.

There is a lot of infomation out there, but it's hard to get through -- and with all of the "small print" it's scary to think about! I don't want a wee one, but neither do I want to die or have a stroke.

I also have heavy, awful periods. I'm worried that something like the IUD will make them so bad that I can't function. Some of the "small print" on the PP website said the ParaGard IUD--the one without the hormone

"...may cause a 50–75 percent increase in menstrual flow. In some cases, this can lead to a low red blood cell count."

Which is bad for me because I have a crazy heavy period to start with.

Arrrgh! This is NOT EASY!

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RE: Birth Control for Dummies - 7/30/2009 4:33:52 PM

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No, I know there are copper ones but I don't know anything about them. I personally take the depo shot, and I love it, I have been on it 4 plus years and never have had a period since, they stopped immediately, and nor have I had weight gain, related to this shot, but that's me, My arm hurts for a day or two sometimes if you touch it, and the injection itself can sting but doesn't always, and what it did for me won't be the same for you, and they do say it can cause calcuim loss in your bones and that if you're on it for over like 2 yerars you should take calcuim suppliments. I suppose not having periods for so long may not be the best thing for me, but I am loving not having them, even though mine were never to big of a bother.

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tfb,
I have heard that about the Mirena as well...but that is actually the IUD with the hormones... I wonder if you have ever heard anything about the copper one? It's called ParaGard....?

The PP website says that the IUD could fall out if you haven't had kids... it also says it could (in rare cases) come unlodged and pierce through your uterus, causing problems that would need eventual surgery. Yikes!

Has anyone ever heard of that happening??

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RE: Birth Control for Dummies - 7/30/2009 4:46:36 PM

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You know, one would think that as common as endometriosis is, there would be some sort of treatment rather than BC pills (particularly when you're not even using them for birth control) or getting your insides scrapped out periodically.

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RE: Birth Control for Dummies - 7/30/2009 5:01:20 PM

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ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

Mirena I believe is the name of the IUD , their commercials say you have to be a woman over 30 or have had kids, or they won't prescribe you their form of IUD. And I have heard other recommendations that if you're going to get an IUD It's best to get it if you've already had kids.
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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

If i had to think about it now (thankfully im beginning my journey to the other end of the spectrum) i would go with an IUD. no muss, no fuss...

tfb,
I have heard that about the Mirena as well...but that is actually the IUD with the hormones... I wonder if you have ever heard anything about the copper one? It's called ParaGard....?

The PP website says that the IUD could fall out if you haven't had kids... it also says it could (in rare cases) come unlodged and pierce through your uterus, causing problems that would need eventual surgery. Yikes!

Has anyone ever heard of that happening??

here are your options on IUD's.

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ParaGard® may be appropriate for a variety of women seeking contraception, including those who:

Want an option that offers rapid return to fertility3-5
Should not use hormones due to medical conditions that may include hypertension,
breast cancer, or uncontrolled diabetes6
Want an option without associated hormonal side effects such as weight gain
Want an option without daily or weekly routines (just a simple monthly self-check)
Want an option that is long term and reversible
Have not had children, but want to keep their options open

http://www.paragard.com/hcp/about-paragard

Mirena offers a flexible option if you have had at least one child and:

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You just had a baby and want to explore your birth control options
You want to have more children*
You are unsure if you want more children*
You are happy with your family size the way it is
You want birth control without a daily routine

http://www.mirena-us.com/mirena_right/index.jsp

This site may explain to you better than i can on IUD's. you can even print it out and take it to the Dr's with you.

http://www.maqweb.org/iudtoolkit/faq.shtml

Regardless, dont go in with a closed mind or set on one specific type. your Dr will know whats best for you to use.

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RE: Birth Control for Dummies - 7/30/2009 7:59:04 PM

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xiam, that sounds awful!!! Isn't there another way to take care of that?

tfb- Thanks so much for your help...

tazzy... The link was so helpful, thank you!!

Thank you to everyone that posted!

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RE: Birth Control for Dummies - 7/30/2009 10:56:54 PM

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I'm on the pill, so far it's working just fine and I'm a big girl. It's actually helped a lot, I used to bleed all the time but teh pill has stopped that and my cycle is regular. The only thing I've noticed is that I tend to be a bit more emotional just before I start my cycle and there are time when I have cramps in the beginning of the cycle.

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RE: Birth Control for Dummies - 7/30/2009 10:57:47 PM

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If you have really heavy periods, with horrible cramping, the pill is a better option for you. It will significantly lighten your periods and your cramping.

You can find horror stories about every birth control method. None of them are 100% effective, but typically if someone gets pregnant on something like the pill, there was usually a mitigating factor, i.e. not taking it correctly or antibiotics lessening the effectiveness.

Not all prescription methods work for everyone. This is something that you and your doctor need to discuss. More than likely the woman who didn't get a period for 4 years after going off the pill had some other issues going on, and should have been thoroughly checked with her doctor.

You will hear weight gain horror stories, but honestly, since you say you are already a bit on the plus side, it isn't something you should be worrying about. It isn't like you are going to take it and then gain 50 pounds. Again, the weight gain has other mitigating factors often as well. Such as we all tend to gain a little weight when in a steady relationship.

If you have had issues with the doctor, don't go to that doctor. You won't ask the questions that you want/need to ask, you will be too frustrated by the whole thing. The sponge is non-prescription and available anywhere non prescription contraceptives are available.

By the way, a person can't be "immune" to birth control pills. You can't be immune to hormones. However, there are all different doses to prevent pregnancy, many today are very low doses, some may need higher doses.

As for the migraine and the horrible cramping you got from Plan B....that is because it is a higher dose and designed to make your body shed the lining in your uterus, and the higher dose will give you a headache. If you went on the pill, you might initially have headaches, but they should go away over time.

Just about any birth control that you get from your doctor is going to contain hormones.

If you haven't been on the pill in the past, I wouldn't recommend the Depo shot initially. Try the pill for a few months and see how it works for you. If you have no issues, the shot is the same thing only it lasts longer.

The bottom line is you are going to make yourself crazy if you read all the details about what COULD happen. Have you read the actual statistics of how often it happens? Every drug has risks. You weigh the risks over the benefits and make a decision.

Xiam, sadly the treatment for endometriosis is birth control pills, ablations, D&Cs or hysterectomy depending on the severity. If your condition is that severe, it will seriously impede your ability to get pregnant so hysterectomy can be a positive option. Doctors these days seem to want to avoid them, but honestly if things are that bad, it would give you complete and permanent relief.

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RE: Birth Control for Dummies - 7/30/2009 11:13:20 PM

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Hormonal methods do not take 4 years to work out of your system. More like 4 weeks, if that. Millions of women the earth over have loved various forms of the pill, the shot, the patch and the nuvaring. Some women have had incredibly bad issues with them, but more so with IUDs, but mostly the older types of IUD.

Here are some links to follow so you can get real facts and weigh your options, not rely on anecdotes.

http://www.womenshealth.gov/faq/birth-control-methods.cfm
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-topics/birth-control-4211.htm
http://www.webmd.com/sex/birth-control/birth-control-birth-control-methods
http://kidshealth.org/teen/sexual_health/contraception/bc_chart.html
http://familydoctor.org/online/famdocen/home/women/contraceptive/016.html

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RE: Birth Control for Dummies - 7/30/2009 11:25:28 PM

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I have the ParaGuard. I had two children prior to having it put in, but have had it twice now. Whether it hurts or goes in easy seems to depend on the skill of the practitioner. I expected the cramps or heavier flow, but those actually seemed to lessen for me.
I had to have it removed at one point for an MRI (it turned out I didn't actually have to, but the Dr. thought I did). It was extremely easy to remove. Insert fingers, wrap string around, pinch tightly and pull. *kerrrrrr- pop*. I was told to keep it in no longer than 10 years, but it can be taken out whenever I want- instant return of fertility.

Personally, it's a good option for me.

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RE: Birth Control for Dummies - 7/30/2009 11:57:24 PM

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You have to decide what works best for you. Each woman is an unique individual.
Yes, there are "success" rate stats for all the different methods, but only you and your doctor can decide which method will be most effective for you -- at the lowest personal risk.

Personally, I think Contraception has a loooonnnngggg way to go before I'd be pleased with any of the options.
The first time I used the pill I was fine for over two years, but the second time (when I went back on the pill between babies), the pill caused very severe headaches after the third month.
I hated the foam and jellies. They burned and stung. (The foam even irritated his cock's head pretty badly.) Plus, they set me up for repeated yeast infections -- not fun.
I was too shallow for the sponge, I conceived twice when we used condoms alone, the IUD string created a path for bacteria to enter my uterus and lead to a pelvic inflamatory disease, the diaphragm slipped and the ring "slipped off", and I know of friends who did the Depo shot thing and went emotionally bonkers! -- So much so, that their partners would rather stay late at work and sleep on the couch.

No matter what method you choose, think of "doubling up" and using more than just one method just to make things more certain... but talk this over with your doctor too. Some secondary methods may negatively impact your primary method.

During my C-section, I had my tubes cut, tied, burned and stapled by the OB/GYN specialist. I wasn't taking ANY chances!

Best wishes!

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RE: Birth Control for Dummies - 7/31/2009 2:54:03 AM

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I have heard that about the Mirena as well...but that is actually the IUD with the hormones... I wonder if you have ever heard anything about the copper one? It's called ParaGard....?

i could be wrong, but i was under the impression a copper IUD is not a good option if you have never had a child...

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RE: Birth Control for Dummies - 7/31/2009 3:23:04 AM

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Ok... here's my next question. I am looking at the planned parethood website and it seems that there are two types of IUD's...one that is copper and one that is plastic, with a low does of progestin.

Obviously there is a difference in hormones... What does the copper do to you, though? Is it a natural spermicide?

The copper one lasts (it says) up to 12 years. What happens if I want it removed?

What are the odds of this causing fertility problems down the road? (If you know, it's a long shot, but I thought I would ask...)

Interestingly enough, the IUD is in the same grid as a vasectomy, female sterilization and the implant... so it's pretty high up there in effectiveness...PP claims less than 1 per 100 end in pregnancy.

" The progestin in the Mirena IUD helps prevent pregnancy. ...Progestin also prevents pregnancy by thickening a woman's cervical mucus. The mucus blocks sperm and keeps it from joining with an egg." (from the PP website)

So...(and sorry if this is gross, but I'm being blunt. I'm tired of having to guess and wonder about this stuff) speaking on oral sex... does this change the taste of the female? Is it gross?

Back in the day (mid 80's), the IUD I had was a copper IUD. They didn't have hormonal ones at that time. If you want it out before it's effectiveness is past, you just make an appointment to have the doc remove it. I think mine was good for 7 years but it seems they've improved upon that.

To your question about the sponge being taken off the market, I honestly don't remember why it was taken off the market. You can ask your doctor or maybe google it, but if it's back on the market, I'd be confident that whatever the reason, it's been addressed.

As someone else mentioned, if you do have heavy and painful periods, the pill will definately lighten them up and reduce your cramping.

Edited to correct a spelling error

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RE: Birth Control for Dummies - 7/31/2009 4:03:14 AM

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I've been off and on the pills for years with no problems. I'm 43, BBW, non-smoker with 3 monsters. I did use the Para-Guard once after the birth of my second child. I will never again use that or recommend it. I had such severe cramping and hemorraghing on it that they had to do an emergency removal of it. It was placed correctly, the doctor did a good job - it just wasn't for me. I ended up in the hospital at least once a month for pain, hemorrhaging and dehydration from complications with that damned thing.

The only time I had to be careful with the pill was when the doctor started me out last year on a mini-pill to try to regulate hormones and for BC reasons since I was moving out to Lumus. With the mini-pill you have to take it within the same 1 hour time period each day, there is no flexibility if you miss it by even a few hours. When I got here, the doctor switched me up to Tri-Cyclen which gives me a little more leeway on when I take it. I just make sure to take it every night before bed along with my other meds.

Other than surgical birth control; i.e. tubes tied (male or female) and celibacy, no form of BC is without it's risks and benefits. One benefit that I really enjoy on the pill is that it lets know that "ok - when I finish this row of pills, within a few days I'll have my period." Let's me get the bitch-alert warnings out to people.

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RE: Birth Control for Dummies - 7/31/2009 4:19:48 AM

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grins, i am surprised no one mentioned -- the Men can get snipped

looks innocent.

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RE: Birth Control for Dummies - 7/31/2009 4:25:19 AM

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I've been off and on the pills for years with no problems. I'm 43, BBW, non-smoker with 3 monsters. I did use the Para-Guard once after the birth of my second child. I will never again use that or recommend it. I had such severe cramping and hemorraghing on it that they had to do an emergency removal of it. It was placed correctly, the doctor did a good job - it just wasn't for me. I ended up in the hospital at least once a month for pain, hemorrhaging and dehydration from complications with that damned thing.

The only time I had to be careful with the pill was when the doctor started me out last year on a mini-pill to try to regulate hormones and for BC reasons since I was moving out to Lumus. With the mini-pill you have to take it within the same 1 hour time period each day, there is no flexibility if you miss it by even a few hours. When I got here, the doctor switched me up to Tri-Cyclen which gives me a little more leeway on when I take it. I just make sure to take it every night before bed along with my other meds.

Other than surgical birth control; i.e. tubes tied (male or female) and celibacy, no form of BC is without it's risks and benefits. One benefit that I really enjoy on the pill is that it lets know that "ok - when I finish this row of pills, within a few days I'll have my period." Let's me get the bitch-alert warnings out to people.

I did, barelynangel..... I got to watch the ex's snippity-snip from start to finish and helped the doctor too. One of the perks of working in the medical field!

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RE: Birth Control for Dummies - 7/31/2009 9:05:29 AM

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...My mom and grandma had fertility issues with their first children (both had “Oops Babies” after, though…lol) and I am hesitant to put something in my body that will cause issues later down the road...

mom and or grandma could have had "help" from the MD with their fertility issues that might have affected your reproductive system.

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...DES was prescribed primarily between 1938 and 1971 (but not limited to those years). It was considered the standard of care for problem pregnancies from the late 1940s well into the 1960s in the U.S. and was widely prescribed during that time. DES was sometimes even included in prenatal vitamins so there are many individuals who were not actually given DES but were exposed to it anyway.
In April 1971 the FDA told doctors to stop using DES for their pregnant patients, however it was never banned. Specifically, the FDA said DES was contraindicated for pregnancy use. In some rare cases American doctors either didn’t hear of, or simply ignored the message. Internationally, DES use during pregnancy continued for many subsequent years.
In the United States, an estimated 5–10 million people were exposed to DES, including women who were prescribed DES while pregnant, and the children born of those pregnancies.

Now researchers are investigating whether DES health issues are extending into the next generation, the so-called DES Grandchildren. As study results come in, there is growing evidence that this group has been adversely impacted by a drug prescribed to their grandmothers...

you can get more information here:
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