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RE: Am I being unreasonable? - 8/16/2009 3:54:20 AM   
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umm yes she was being a prude, and to all of you who think its wrong to cum while a child is in the house, do you really think parents rent hotel rooms to have sex and have more babies? no they fuck in the same house there sleeping child is in. she is simply trying to mask her disobediance as responsibility to her babysitting duties.

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RE: Am I being unreasonable? - 8/16/2009 8:36:50 AM   
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Here is the deal I need advice... My owner wanted me to cum tonight at my sisters house. I told him I did not feel comfortable cumming tonight because I was babysitting my sisters daughter and just didn't feel that it was OK to do so even if the child was asleep. My owner said I was being silly and unreasonable and that i am prudish. So my question is am I being silly/prudish here or does anyone think I have a reasonable explination.

Thank You :)


well, your reasonable explanation, if you needed one, could be that you're at work and on someone elses time and money and that your fun can be had when you're off the clock.

personally, i find it hard to cum in my own house, being a single mother and all, regardless of whether or not my adult son is out for the day or night or not; i've never brought men into my house for sexual gratification while he is younger, and now that he's an adult, i still find it hard to relax enough to find release, regardless of whether or not he is here. anyone that can't/won't understand that fact is just barking up the wrong tree with me i suppose because it is what it is.

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RE: Am I being unreasonable? - 8/16/2009 10:23:51 AM   
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There are two entirely different issues being debated here - and they have little to do with each other as far as I can see.

a) The first is if it's reasonable to pleasure yourself while baby-sitting in someone else's home.

b) The second is if a Master can command his slave to do something that is unreasonable, immoral and/or makes them feel uncomfortable and what is an appropriate response or interaction in this circumstance.

As to the first - I don't believe it's reasonable to masturbate while baby-sitting in someone else's home. The entire focus of the transaction is being paid to take of, protect someone's child while they are away and, obviously, pleasuring yourself is not serving that purpose and could be detrimental to it. I would expect the parents to be upset were they to discover it and rightfully so.

As to the second - well, it's trickier.

If the Dom commanded something that was impossible I would expect there would have to be some form of negotiation. If baby-sitting in your sister's house was so disturbing that it made orgasm impossible for you, then an appropriate response would be say "I don't think I can" and explain why.

It wouldn't occur to me to ask something like this of a sub or a slave - my mind runs more to "Go and be the best damn baby-sitter you can be" but that's me and I don't expect everyone out there to run along the same lines I do. Sometimes the goal is to push the slave or submissive outside of their comfort zone to see what happens.

Obviously over the course of an extended relationship, things will evolve. That does include limits. I have had submissives realize that they were uncomfortable with something they had thought they would be okay with or more commonly, to suddenly become uncomfortable when presented with something that had never occurred to them. As a Dom, I'm actively trying to think of new and exciting things and to come up with unexpected scenarios and I'm not going to spot-check every one with my sub before springing them - that would ruin the whole dynamic of the interaction. (This is not to say that we wouldn't have a discussion about some topic - as in "How do you fee about needle play?" or whatever.)

Assuming we'd already discussed public play and related matters, if I'd ordered a submissive to go into the ladies' room during their lunch break and finger themselves to orgasm - it wouldn't occur to me that they'd suddenly be uncomfortable with this or that it was really a matter for debate.

Assuming you're in an established, successful D/s relationship (which I don't believe the OP and her 'Master' are) and something of this nature came up, in my opinion the appropriate response to disobedience would be punishment - depending on the severity of the disobedience and reasonableness of the request, obviously the punishment could range from token to serious. Following this would likely be discussion to a resolution - either the submissive/slaves acceptance of whatever the action is in the future, or a redefinition of what the limits of the D/s interaction are. It could go either way, depending on the circumstances and exactly what became a new accepted limit and what was accepted by the submissive/slave as part of their submission is going to be different for every D/s couple and every circumstance because what's a big deal for me may not be a big deal for you and what's trivial for me may be critical for you.

If the result of whatever the conflict was is that we cannot come to any resolution  then the relationship has deeper issues.

All of this is to address the more theoretical D/s issues that have been going back and forth here and are pretty much just my opinions.

It looks to me, as to many other posters, the that the OP has rushed into a long-distance or online relationship with some inexperienced Dom and now finds themseves in the common position of dealing with the fact that they don't know each other very well. There's no insta-fix for this.

[Edited to add: Oh! I forgot: Going online and complaining about something and then coming back to me with poll results taken from a group of online strangers would not be an appropriate method of discussion. It's pretty much asking for trouble.]

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RE: Am I being unreasonable? - 8/17/2009 10:24:04 AM   
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What if the point was humiliation play?

And what if her sister didn't care?

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RE: Am I being unreasonable? - 8/17/2009 8:47:30 PM   
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It depends upon whether you're an owned slave or a sub, and also whether it could have been done with absolutely no chance of your neice waking up.  I will be the first to oppose children being exposed to the lifestyle, in any way, shape or form, however, if you are an owned slave and there was no chance of your neice waking up, you should have obeyed your Master.  If you still refused, under those circumstances, you should expect to be severely punished for disobedience.

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RE: Am I being unreasonable? - 8/17/2009 9:07:38 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: NihilusZero

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lostkitten3

It wouldn't be a problem for me, but it is for y ou. That is enough to say "no" and have it honored.

No it isn't! Is everyone going batty today?

Slave: "I want a dynamic in which I'm expected to obey!"
D-type: "Okay! Now do this!"
Slave: "But.....I don't wanna...."





Since I've been awakened against my will (and no my Sir didn't wake me, he would never do such a thing...I will in fact be reprimanded for being up just an hour after I went to sleep...but I digress)  I'd like to add my own 2 pence.

Often times here I read about the Dom/sub, Master/Slave dynamic and Sir and I have talks about how much I frustrate him. What has happened as a result is that we both understand each other a little differently now.  I THINK I said something that helped him understand where little ole sub me was coming from. I often times will explain to Sir why I may not feel comfortable with doing something.  I have explained further as of late that because I'm explaining doesn't mean I wont do it. For me it's another way to be submissive to him but let him know this is not something I'm going to like if that was his aim, however I get that if I don't like it, he may not care either.

End of the day, we're all human.  We're all here because we chose to be.  HOWEVER, I agree that she perhaps disobeyed but still...human.  If she has an owner that is even the tiniest bit understanding then perhaps he'll see what I'm talking about.  It's one thing to say, you're disobeying me and I'm gonna punish you right now at your sisters house and another to say, I'm going to do something you BETTER enjoy.  So I'd ask when's the last time anyone here enjoyed doing something they 'truly from the bottom of their heart didn't want to or like doing' kinks aside.  Bah I'm rambling but hopefully there is sense in there somewhere. 

Good luck OP and someone lock up for me


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RE: Am I being unreasonable? - 8/31/2009 10:00:01 AM   
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He should have taken into account the child in the house and the fact that play of any kind when a child can walk in on you is not exceptable. No you are not being unreasonable. 

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RE: Am I being unreasonable? - 8/31/2009 11:49:46 AM   
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Demanding she remove her panties is something she has control over. But ordering her to orgasm is like ordering her to sneeze. For many of us no matter how long we scrunch up our noses and say "Achoo" doesn't matter, we still can't sneeze on demand.

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RE: Am I being unreasonable? - 8/31/2009 11:50:47 AM   
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Well, your nose augta run as a show of good faith, anyhow.

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