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There would be no tears or excuses proffered for the killer, and he would be just one more murderer sitting on Texas’ death row. The public would view the woman’s affair as a sad, desperate attempt to gain some comfort in the hellish life her brute of a husband had imposed on her. The mere mention of the fact that his wife had been cheating on him as an excuse for murder would be correctly denounced by feminists, who would also express outrage at the murderer’s "blame the victim" defense.

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

[The bias against men in such cases is based on the realities that men are more violent and regularly do beat up on and brutalize women.

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As for "bashing feminism" and thus making oneself look "weak"..........I only "bash" that which deserves it. This is not weakness, weakness is laying like a whipped dog while hateful fools spew lies and attempt to destroy others.

Agreed.

There is quite often a dangerous silence that surrounds femisinformation. Those who point out its shortcomings so often are labeled as insensitive, intolerant—or in this case, apparently—"weak".

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ORIGINAL: caitlyn
Now, now ... let's not put words where they don't exist.

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ORIGINAL: amayos
The pot calling the kettle black here, I do think!

Does this roughly translate to, "I have no real response, so does anyone mind if I masterbate?"

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ORIGINAL: caitlyn

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ORIGINAL: amayos
The pot calling the kettle black here, I do think!

Does this roughly translate to, "I have no real response, so does anyone mind if I masterbate?"

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Listening to the public and media reaction to the Harris case one would imagine that infidelity were a vice owned exclusively by the male of the human species. In reality, research estimates that for every five unfaithful husbands, there are four unfaithful wives. According to the American Association of Blood Banks, of the nearly 300,000 cases evaluated each year in the United States, roughly 30% exclude the tested individual as the biological father of the children he thought were his. Even blood typing examinations taken decades ago showed that at a bare minimum 10% of the fathers who signed their babies' birth certificates were unknowingly claiming paternity of children who weren't theirs.

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...and no matter how aloof we think we are from nature, the fact is we aren't.

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The reality of feminism, is that it has provided quite a bit of opportunity for women, and in this modern society where the vast majority of women must work to survive, perhaps that is a good thing. Just to reiterate, this was not a society of my choosing ... and once again, nobody has ever asked my opinion on how it should work.

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Feminism was from the beginning driven by the false premise that females were shattles of men which was never true, except for the top 5% of society because this group held all the wealth and marriage was business and the signing of business deals.

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What's a "shattle"? I'm really trying to understand what you're saying.

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Exactly what advantage would you like boys to get in school? I graduated from High School not that long ago, and 73 of the top 100 students were female. We all took the same classes. I just don't know what else to say. I now attend a university that is pretty damn hard to get into. I got in, because I worked hard and got good grades.

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Feminism is about providing more for the affluent female and nothing to do with enhancing the life of poor females. Feminism was from the beginning driven by the false premise that females were shattles of men which was never true, except for the top 5% of society because this group held all the wealth and marriage was business and the signing of business deals. Poor women always had equal rights because in the part of society they inhabited there wasn't enough wealth to carry passengers.

Many of the deals for 'women' nowadays are for affluent women as opposed to women in general. Maternity leave for example, you have to be able to afford the drop in income to be able to take it. Alimony, which to me is the biggest laugh of all, that a woman can demand that she be kept by a man she is divorcing when a woman has more chance of getting a job in today's society than a male! The mother will almost always get custody of children entirely through prejudice of the courts whether she is the better parent or not. The false belief that females aren't violent and that all violence is perpurtrated by males is another victory for feminism, though it is slowly being recognized that a significant amount of domestic violence is by females. Sexual molestation of children is now slowly being understood not to be an entirely male thing either.

Feminism has largely been based on lies for the advancement of a particular section of female society. True there have been some trickle down but is this enough to carry on believing all the lies and false history put forward by feminists?

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Does this roughly translate to, "I have no real response, so does anyone mind if I masterbate?"

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Well, we can be sure of one thing, feminism has not provided women more seats on the Supreme Court. In general, without going point by point, I would say your post sounds like buffoonery to me. Take for example, "Poor women always had equal rights because in the part of society they inhabited there wasn't enough wealth to carry passengers." That's quite a closing sentence to your lead argument, what, are you trying to outdo Steven Colbert?

In sum, your argument seems to be, "I don't like feminism." The only thing missing here is an irrational rant against Hillary Clinton.

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As for "bashing feminism" and thus making oneself look "weak"..........I only "bash" that which deserves it. This is not weakness, weakness is laying like a whipped dog while hateful fools spew lies and attempt to destroy others.

Agreed.

There is quite often a dangerous silence that surrounds femisinformation. Those who point out its shortcomings so often are labeled as insensitive, intolerant—or in this case, apparently—"weak".

Now, now ... let's not put words where they don't exist.

Nobody labeled either of you was weak ... what I said is that it makes you look weak. I don't know either of you, so I really have no idea what you are.

I will say that I stand by that statement. I think you are both (and many others to be fair) responding to the rhetoric of feminism, and not the reality of it. Under that guise, you are allowing yourself to feel threatened by "words without substance" ... hence, my comment about making yourself look weak.

The reality of feminism, is that it has provided quite a bit of opportunity for women, and in this modern society where the vast majority of women must work to survive, perhaps that is a good thing. Just to reiterate, this was not a society of my choosing ... and once again, nobody has ever asked my opinion on how it should work.

Given that reality, the challenge always does exist for the detractor male. What substantial thing has feminism taken from you ... that you do not have today, but feel that a person of your social standing would have had, if you lived before the advent of the feminist movement? Is there a right you are missing out on ... a possession you don't have ... a privalege that you are being denied?

I'm curious ... I have asked this question many times, and only gotten abstract answers like, "I can't whistle as a woman on the street."