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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/5/2009 7:52:32 PM   
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Heh. Let the backpedaling begin.

Great point, servantforuse.


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No, what you said was:
"Since a majority of voters put Obama in the white house, Maher might actually be right for once. Maybe if voters paid attention to what was really going on, he would be back in Chicago."

Which you intended to somehow indicate that Obama being elected proved that Americans were stupid, when in fact, the opposite is true.

Had female democrats fallen for that lame bait and switch tactic the republicans tried after Obama got the nomination, they would have been "stupid."

However, much to the republicans' chagrin, the people proved too smart for that crap and thus, the really stupid bitch was kept out of the second highest position in the country.


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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/5/2009 8:02:05 PM   
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No one can mention the president without your permission?

He's the president. This is the political section. His name will come up - get used to it.

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And once again, we see the complete inability of some to discuss any subject, from comedians to the state of education without bemoaning Barak Obama being president. I find that interesting indeed.




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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/5/2009 8:04:20 PM   
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Like I said "if the republicans really wanted to win they would have chosen RON PAUL."




Umm, Gift?  Weren't you accusing someone else of being in denial not long ago?  Ron Paul is a guaranteed loser fringe candidate who couldn't even field doorknockers who bathed on a regular basis.

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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/5/2009 8:06:28 PM   
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Ron Paul is a guaranteed loser fringe candidate who couldn't even field doorknockers who bathed on a regular basis.

Too true... which proves that Maher is right.

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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/5/2009 8:10:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sanity, why would you quote me and then tell servantforuse "good point?"

Was that a republ....er....senior moment?

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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/5/2009 8:18:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		You mean the man with one of the highest approval rating in congress?
You mean one of the longest standing congressmen?
You mean the man who won the president republican debate according to the fox news poll?
You mean the man who had a higher internet following than any other candidate during the early stages of the president election?
You mean one of the only politicians to stand against the fed?
You mean one of the only politicians to actually want smaller government?
You mean the only politician that can actually walk his talk?





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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/5/2009 8:19:25 PM   
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You quoted him, I wrote his name out to make it perfectly clear who I was complimenting. 

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Sanity, why would you quote me and then tell servantforuse "good point?"

Was that a republ....er....senior moment?


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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/5/2009 8:22:36 PM   
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You mean the man with one of the highest approval rating in congress?
You mean one of the longest standing congressmen?
You mean the man who won the president republican debate according to the fox news poll?
You mean the man who had a higher internet following than any other candidate during the early stages of the president election?
You mean one of the only politicians to stand against the fed?
You mean one of the only politicians to actually want smaller government?
You mean the only politician that can actually walk his talk?







Wow, i have no clue who you are talking about. I was referring to Ron Paul, who had the worst RNC nomination rating according to every poll i can find. i may have missed one though.

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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/5/2009 8:33:26 PM   
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You quoted him, I wrote his name out to make it perfectly clear who I was complimenting.


Then you failed. You clicked "quote" on my post, hence why it has my name in it.

It would have been more "clear" had you clicked "quote" on his post.

But I guess I was right. It just a republ....er....senior moment.

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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/5/2009 8:36:49 PM   
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No one can mention the president without your permission?

He's the president. This is the political section. His name will come up - get used to it.
ORIGINAL: Sanity


Actually, I am delighted that you guys have Obama to kick around. It's so nice that you finally have something to talk about other than a blowjob Bill Clinton got over a decade ago. It's not much, but it's progress. Keep up the good work!


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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/5/2009 8:41:34 PM   
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It's not that complicated, I am sorry that you don't understand.


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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/5/2009 8:45:37 PM   
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You should be glad, glad that your guy's in, and its him that's getting kicked around instead of McCain.

Fact is, I think I would have disliked McCain even more than I dislike Obama, for a variety of reasons. .


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Actually, I am delighted that you guys have Obama to kick around. It's so nice that you finally have something to talk about other than a blowjob Bill Clinton got over a decade ago. It's not much, but it's progress. Keep up the good work!




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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/5/2009 9:22:28 PM   
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Can't say I'm surprised.

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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/5/2009 9:26:27 PM   
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Go easy, its not that big a deal.


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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/5/2009 9:27:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Why is that surprising? In 2006 and 2007, ever discussion about politics, world events or humor centered around Bush and Cheney. You could not have a serious issue about much of the Middle East stuff without it being derailed by the words "lies" "WMD" and/or "illegal war".

I see the exact same things occuring just the sides have switched to the other sides tactics, back and forth. The merry go round keeps going in circles, and most here believe we are getting ahead.

As far as the OP goes: Bill is right, Bill used to be funnier, Bill got tiring to watch. Bill always had a token conservative on his show, so that he had a butt end for his jokes.

Rush used to be funnier watching his late night show, as the expressions on his face were hillarious. Both are entertainers, and entertaining in different ways, but both are still using slight bits of illusion.


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Since a majority of voters put Obama in the white house, Maher might actually be right for once. Maybe if voters paid attention to what was really going on, he would be back in Chicago.

ORIGINAL: servantforuse



And once again, we see the complete inability of some to discuss any subject, from comedians to the state of education without bemoaning Barak Obama being president. I find that interesting indeed.




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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/5/2009 9:40:23 PM   
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What I'm seeing is that many of the outrageous lies that were made about Bush, the outrageous claims, are actually true about this president. Obama also shares many of Bush's faults, and Obama easily outdoes Bush in a lot of Bush's most grievous shortcomings.

Spending, for example. Obama is outspending Bush in just his first few months - which I guess that must be okay now, this insane deficit spending. Obama's got Conservatives in the crosshairs of his Department Of Homeland Security Terrorist watch list, apparently not a big deal either.

The White House appears to be sending union goons out to town halls to bust people's heads, when did Bush ever do anything like that?

I could go on and on...


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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/5/2009 9:59:49 PM   
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What I'm seeing is that many of the outrageous lies that were made about Bush, the outrageous claims, are actually true about this president. Obama also shares many of Bush's faults, and Obama easily outdoes Bush in a lot of Bush's most grievous shortcomings.

Spending, for example. Obama is outspending Bush in just his first few months - which I guess that must be okay now, this insane deficit spending. Obama's got Conservatives in the crosshairs of his Department Of Homeland Security Terrorist watch list, apparently not a big deal either.

The White House appears to be sending union goons out to town halls to bust people's heads, when did Bush ever do anything like that?

I could go on and on...



As you can tell from my name, I love a good story...and this one is a great one!

Can you please tell me where to find the stories of the White House sending union goons to town hall meetings to bust heads? It must have got lost under the story of the anti-healthcare reform protester biting off the finger of a pro-healthcare reform worker.

And why would the office of homeland security take any notice of the fact that conservative protesters are showing up to town hall meetings and demonstrations with loaded firearms? Or the fact that President Obama has received more death threats than any other president in history? We know from 9/11 that it's far better not to take a look at possible dangers to our country. And we all know Timothy Mcvey was an arab plant.

But most of all, I love the "What was said about MY president were horrible lies that justify my saying anything and everything about YOUR president and besides all this stuff is true about YOUR president" attitude. It takes a lot of inventiveness to claim the moral highground while reserving the right to wallow in the mud you accuse those who disagree with you of wallowing within.

So far, though, I haven't seen Obama lie about WMD in another country as an excuse to get into a war. You gotta give him credit for that.

Tell me about the goons again, Uncle Sanity....I really like the part about the goons.

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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/5/2009 10:13:58 PM   
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The White House sends in the goons...

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/25891.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/15/powerful-19mmember-union-_n_86860.html

http://oregonionvideo.blogspot.com/2009/05/seiu-obama-stimulus-corruption.html

http://www.collarchat.com/m_2752594/mpage_1/tm.htm

http://www.collarchat.com/m_2745790/mpage_6/key_seiu/tm.htm#2748484

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtLzJOfH9DE

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=seiu%20obama&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wv#

There's far more evidence than this out there but this should be enough to give you a heads up, assuming you're capable of being intellectually honest.

This is the wrong thread to go into too much of a detailed discussion of Obama - SEIU connections, but feel free to continue it on any thread related to that topic that you would like.






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RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/5/2009 10:54:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ok...let's take a look at the citations one by one (I read them all and urge all to do so. I will not quote them all because of space and convenience)

In order:

Citation 1: In a meeting of  proponents of healthcare reform, David Alexrod urged supporters to make sure they were well prepared for the town hall meetings, mobilized fellow supporters and said "If we get hit, we will punch back twice as hard"...this of course didn't mean countering the opposition's arguments with more emphatic counter arguments. This is, as you point out, a code for "We will bus in union goons to bust heads".

Citation 2: The Service Workers Union pledged support for Obama's healthcare proposal. As we all know, when a union pledges support, they are actually offering to send their goons to public meetings to bust heads.

Citation 3: Ok...I didn't watch the video (my speakers are out for some reason).....but I did notice the other links listed on the side of the page: Yep...fair and balanced news all right. My favorite is the Bipolar one. Can we try to keep our citations to organizations that have a greater grasp on reality, like Mad Magazine?

Citation 4: Same organization....Still like the bipolar one but the loyalty pledge thing is moving up on the list.

Citation 5: A very nice description of how these big bad union goons acted against the peace loving teabaggers at a town hall meeting. The side lnks in this one are even better than your last:
  • Overcoming ‘Remote-Control’ Government
    by Scott Ott
  • Obama’s Friends ‘Out’ the Death Panels
    by Jennifer Rubin
  • Van Jones: Emblematic of the New Frontier
    by Victor Davis Hanson
  • A Migrating Maine Snowe-Bird
    by Andrew Ian Dodge
  • Van Jones, the Red ‘Green Czar,’ Is a Truther Too
    by Clarice Feldman
  • In the MSM, Even Stalin Gets the ‘Even-Handed’ Treatment
    by Michael Ledeen
  • How Obama Portends an End to Self-Determinism
    by David A. Eisenberg
  • Why Levi Johnston Matters
    by Jazz Shaw
  • Pat Buchanan: Knave and Fool
    by Rick Moran
  • White House Memo to Al-Qaeda: Now Is the Time to Strike
    by Mark Impomeni
  • Germany’s Murky Role in the Shalit Negotiations
    by John Rosenthal
  • Levi Johnston: Credible, Till Palin-Bashers Don’t Need Him Anymore
    by Melissa Clouthier
  • Obama’s Punk Presidency Kicks into High Gear
    by Tom Blumer
  • 9/11-As-Tsumami Nightmare Video Salvaged From Memory Hole
    by Ed Driscoll
  • What’s So Sinister About a Presidential Back-to-School Speech?

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    RE: Bill Maher : most Americans are Dumb and Uneducated... - 9/5/2009 11:06:34 PM   
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    It must have got lost under the story of the anti-healthcare reform protester biting off the finger of a pro-healthcare reform worker.



    You've spun this a full 180 degrees, Spinner, and turned it into a lie...  An oversight on your part, I'm sure. 

    http://www.collarchat.com/m_2790324/tm.htm

    It was the MoveOn.org activist who bit the finger off a passerby. 



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